New DP1s (successor to DP1) will be in store Nov 09

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burkm Regular Member • Posts: 394
New DP1s (successor to DP1) will be in store Nov 09

German audio video photo magazine and rumors say, that (at least in Germany) the successor to the DP1, the DP1s, will arrive in stores around the country Nov 09, ready for Christmas shopping. No sales price given yet...

MTornqvist Regular Member • Posts: 104
Re: New DP1s (successor to DP1) will be in store Nov 09

burkm wrote:

German audio video photo magazine and rumors say, that (at least in Germany) the successor to the DP1, the DP1s, will arrive in stores around the country Nov 09, ready for Christmas shopping. No sales price given yet...

Hmmm. Sounds a bit like a wild rumor.

But on the other hand I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be true. I'd expect the list price (and upgrades, keeping the lens) to be the same as the DP2.

ToasterFlyer Veteran Member • Posts: 3,331
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I look fwd to the new DP1 :-)...been holding off..

As well as looking fwd to the new SD15.

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OP burkm Regular Member • Posts: 394
Re: New DP1s (successor to DP1) will be in store Nov 09

The German magazine Computerbild had it in its official news lineup ...

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Maxime B Regular Member • Posts: 323
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If the camera itself remain the same, I fail to see the point.
What ameliorations could we expect ? The same "ameliorations" that the DP2 ?
Almost usable ISO 400, little faster processing time and new colors management ?

Not sure it would worth the upgrade, especially given current original DP1 price...
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Gene Hack Senior Member • Posts: 1,011
scottish mentality

same design.
same body.
porbably same innards.

You pay for a different IR filter, that makes the cameras colors even more boring and neutral, instead of filmlike and powerful.

still no VIDEO, shame on You SIGMA/Foveon.

my hope is dead.

Tulaev Senior Member • Posts: 1,226
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I think there is no any specific information...
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sebatlh Regular Member • Posts: 127
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Seems like the logical thing to do.

The DP1s will probably be a DP2 but with the DP1 lens.
That way everything except the lens is the same -> cheaper manufacturing.

I'm just guessing of course, but it is what I would do...

stanislaw stitchanow Senior Member • Posts: 1,956
This is official announcement from Sigma Germany

as the text is marked as advertisement not as editorial text.

So the anouncement is official as no one else than Sigma German will make such an advertisement
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even then it is quite strange that the zoom buttons should be kept in the same way after they changed the layout on the dp2, i would assume they try to make the cameras have the same interface, it is annoying enough shifting between the dp1 and dp2 as is!
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OP burkm Regular Member • Posts: 394
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Seems like the DPx development teams(s) at Sigma are encapsulated (and isolated) in their own universe, so not ever been connected to real live (competition and user needs / wishes).

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Video? These cameras aren't about video, like some normal P&S. Get a Flip. (nt)

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Roland Karlsson Forum Pro • Posts: 28,333
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Maxime B wrote:

If the camera itself remain the same, I fail to see the point.

The point is to make the DP1 better. It is not so clever to make a new batch of DP1 keeping the mistakes. So - they make some improvements - adds an s - and sells it. Sounds like a good plan to me.

But - of course - it is still not clear if it is true.

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bluewonder New Member • Posts: 24
Re: New DP1s (successor to DP1) will be in store Nov 09

i get the dp1 right now for 260 euro.
how much will the dp1s be?

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bluewonder wrote:

i get the dp1 right now for 260 euro.
how much will the dp1s be?

It will be more of course.

But - you will be able to use it even when a bright light is in the frame.

Hopefully no red grid reflexes from the IR filter.

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My guess would be that they would do that to have a more updated product to compete with the Ricoh Grd3 and the Leica X1
I guess they may bring a 2.8 max aperture with the 28 equivalent instead of 4Pm

also one can only hope that they would invest 2USD to have the functions marked white on black instead of black on black

such a stupid detail that shows a lack of thinking in terms of design and everyday use
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That being said

I don't think it will sell a lot until sigma manages to :

include a DNG raw file in their . who wants to bother with the most closed standard in the industry

get more resolution we don't need a lot more but a TRUE 8 to 10 MP foveon sensor should be feasible
a decent buffer on the camera
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anotherrich Regular Member • Posts: 445
Re: Link to the magazine site

Here's a Google(d) translation:

Sigma DP1s: A compact for themselves

The Sigma DP1 camera offered the first performance of a digital SLR camera in a small package. Now comes the improved Sigma DP1s.

Thanks to an excellent lens and the unique Foveon X3 Direktbildsensor Sigma DP1s the OMPETITOR is qualitatively far behind.

Compactness is usually a compromise between form and function: the compact car offers little space, the compact magazine renounces content, relatively compact camera provides picture quality worse - that they are anything but practical than their large counterparts and fit better into parking spot, hand or pocket .

Camera as a pioneer: Sigma DP1

At least in the photo area you can, thanks to Sigma for a while too happy to be a bit uncompromising: In March 2008, the Sigma DP1 came on the market - a digital camera, although one in weight and dimensions for compact cars, but thanks to the excellent lens and the unique Foveon -X3-Direktbildsensor quality is far behind. Sigma DP1s provides reliable automatic modes for quick snapshots.
Improved successor: Sigma DP1s

Even when improved successor model DP1s Sigma manages the perfect blend of practical and precise: Of course, the camera provides reliable automatic modes for quick snapshots. Anyone who has met the black piece of jewelry but once and appreciate the DP1s preferably operated in manual mode, classically with selectable aperture and shutter speed. For only the renunciation of the automated Knips comfort, admitting their own individuality and intuition is the photograph to return to its fundamental principle: the capture of the truth.

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Tariq Senior Member • Posts: 1,529
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Wow, the text states nothing new yet takes up so much space! It sure would be nice to hear of specific improvements backed up by numbers.

anotherrich wrote:

Here's a Google(d) translation:

Sigma DP1s: A compact for themselves

The Sigma DP1 camera offered the first performance of a digital SLR camera in a small package. Now comes the improved Sigma DP1s.

Thanks to an excellent lens and the unique Foveon X3 Direktbildsensor Sigma DP1s the OMPETITOR is qualitatively far behind.

Compactness is usually a compromise between form and function: the compact car offers little space, the compact magazine renounces content, relatively compact camera provides picture quality worse - that they are anything but practical than their large counterparts and fit better into parking spot, hand or pocket .

Camera as a pioneer: Sigma DP1

At least in the photo area you can, thanks to Sigma for a while too happy to be a bit uncompromising: In March 2008, the Sigma DP1 came on the market - a digital camera, although one in weight and dimensions for compact cars, but thanks to the excellent lens and the unique Foveon -X3-Direktbildsensor quality is far behind. Sigma DP1s provides reliable automatic modes for quick snapshots.
Improved successor: Sigma DP1s

Even when improved successor model DP1s Sigma manages the perfect blend of practical and precise: Of course, the camera provides reliable automatic modes for quick snapshots. Anyone who has met the black piece of jewelry but once and appreciate the DP1s preferably operated in manual mode, classically with selectable aperture and shutter speed. For only the renunciation of the automated Knips comfort, admitting their own individuality and intuition is the photograph to return to its fundamental principle: the capture of the truth.

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