E-P1 with FD 50 1.8 S.C., nFD 28 1.8

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Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
E-P1 with FD 50 1.8 S.C., nFD 28 1.8

All these posts on here talking about using mFT cameras with legacy MF lenses had me so intrigued, it took like a week before I'd ordered my first old lens. I went for a Canon FD 50 1.8 S.C., simply because it was the first lens I found that looked solid and was cheap at the same time - I'm not wealthy enough to invest hundreds of dollars (or ten thousands of Yen for me) on experiments, and too short-tempered to start saving up. I payed 1100 Yen for this one, or about 11 bucks.

This lens is older than myself as far as I could find, does have a bit of dust inside, but as far as I can tell it's not affecting the pictures much (if at all).

It certainly gives photographing a different, more "organic" feel, and I hope it comes across in the results. all of these are straight out of camera, resized only.

I had troubles using the MF assist at first (especially annoying to have to cycle through the screens again to change settings! Would love to have a dedicated FA button), but I think I've gotten reasonably good at it. The low-light LCD noise is sometimes extremely frustrating in this situation though.

Today, I browsed through a few of the used camera shops in the Shinjuku neighbourhood in search for more cheap FDs, specifically a wider lens I could use for cityscape shots. I found a 28 2.8 in the junk bin, declared "junk" for having very faint traces of fungus around the very edge of the rear lens... which seems to have positively no effect on the pictures, which came out really nice and clean. 1470 Yen.

Really enjoying these lenses, can't wait to get some more time for pictures! (All of the above are on the way to or from work) I also got a 135 3.5 (670 Yen with faint fungus traces), but because of the very limited FOV I haven't been able to try it out for real yet.

To sum it up, as someone who does not have a cache of legacy lenses, I am having a great time "meeting" these for the first time. I'm sure that at some point I will invest in some of the higher grade lenses, but right now, these are a blast to use, and a great inspiration to try out ways of framing and perspective I hadn't before.

Diane B Forum Pro • Posts: 20,629
Re: E-P1 with FD 50 1.8 S.C., nFD 28 1.8

Phil, I haven't gone beyond the FDs and the one Konica Hexanon 40 f/1.8 and love shooting with them. I've found nicely inexpensive (but can't beat the $11 US for your 50 f/1.8 LOL) lenses and love the output. I actually shoot with them a lot more than my AF lenses.

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Peter Sills Senior Member • Posts: 2,217
Re: E-P1 with FD 50 1.8 S.C., nFD 28 1.8

Agreed. Also picked up the Vivitar 70-135 f3.8 w/2x adapter for $40. Outstanding. Will post shots soon.

This is why I think that the E-P1 is better for this type of legacy shooting. AF doesn't matter (lenses don't support it) and the in-camera IS is extremely helpful.

(BTW: This is not a bash of the GF1 which is also an excellent camera, just for different shooting.)
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thegentlesurprise Forum Member • Posts: 51
Me too!

I picked up a Nikon 50/1.4 a few days ago, but my Nikon adapter hasn't gotten here yet. SO anxious for new toys!

Diane B Forum Pro • Posts: 20,629
Re: E-P1 with FD 50 1.8 S.C., nFD 28 1.8

I understand Peter. I'm used to shooting primarily without IS (Canon) and have found that the G1 with EVF is fine for me with MF lenses. I'm not nearly as sure about shooting with only the LCD, so I see your point for incamera IS for the smaller slimmer m4/3rds.

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OP Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: E-P1 with FD 50 1.8 S.C., nFD 28 1.8

To be perfectly honest, I haven't really tested out the IS enough to say it makes a huge difference for me.
But it sure is reassuring to know it's there!
Now if only I could remember to set the focal length whenever I changed lens

Even on the kit lenses, I MF a whole lot of the time. I'm just weird like that, I guess...

OP Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: Me too!

thegentlesurprise, I'm sure you'll love them! Make sure to post your experience.

Memerang Regular Member • Posts: 211
Re: E-P1 with FD 50 1.8 S.C., nFD 28 1.8

Wow, cheap FD lenses.

Alas i'm about 3000 miles too far to take advantage of the prices.

Shinjuku has always fascinated me with its colours and vibrancy.
Actually, the whole of tokyo - even its suburbs.
Wishing that i could go there again someday.

Phil, i sent you an email at your email address, just to let you know.

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Brian Mosley Forum Pro • Posts: 20,707
Great stuff Phil!

You got a terrific series there (love the dof, colours - just great!) - and most importantly, it's loads of fun without the cost!

Well Done, and please keep posting as you find more budget gems!

Kind Regards

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OP Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: E-P1 with FD 50 1.8 S.C., nFD 28 1.8

Memerang,
thanks for the comments. I mailed you back too.

OP Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: Great stuff Phil!

Brian,

Thanks for the comment! Glad you liked them. This is largely your fault anyway

I do like the E-P1's colors on these... And I feel like the lenses added in a little something as well, the shots feel more "alive" than with the digital lenses.

I'm definitely hoping to get to try out the 135 soon as well, will post results. (I also have a 2x teleconverter... Now to find a place in Japan that has open space that far!!)

Josh51699 Regular Member • Posts: 256
Re: Great stuff Phil!

i think all these pictures are awesome! makes me really want to pick this or the gf-1 up for the small compact well built feel with all these cheap mf lenses.

very nice job! Show you dont need a perfect lens for a good picture.
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OP Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: Great stuff Phil!

Thanks Josh! Much appreciated.

I'm sure you would have a blast with either the E-P1 or the GF1, give them a go

Bernard au Clairvaux Contributing Member • Posts: 612
Brian Mosley.....

Is there a 4/3 adapter for canon FD lenses??

If so , can you show mw the way?

I remeber something about changing the mount out with another brand, but thought there were zillions of adapters but no FD.

bEST rEGARDS, bERNARD

OP Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: Brian Mosley.....

Bernard au Clairvaux wrote:

Is there a 4/3 adapter for canon FD lenses??

Bernard,
Here's the micro 4/3 FD adapter I use:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-FD-lens-to-Panasonic-G1-DMC-G1-micro-4-3-adapter_W0QQitemZ110341536053QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item19b0de3935&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

And here's one for regular 4/3 in case that's what you meant.

http://cgi.ebay.com/macro-FD-to-Olympus-adapter-4-3-E-3-E-420-E-510-E-520_W0QQitemZ350117970786QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item5184a84362&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

You do not need to switch any mounts, it works fine.

Bernard au Clairvaux Contributing Member • Posts: 612
thank you Phil, and a few more questions

So they dont focus at infinity? If you take something beyond 50 ft or so with the 50mm what happens? Is it way off?

And if it was a photo at a closer distance all is well?

You seem to be happy with the adapters, I will reread the whole thread in a few minutes. Is this the only company that males a reg 4/3 to FD cause I have looked before. Is it the infinity issue that perhaps keeps companies from making this particular adapter?

Thank you

Bernard

Brian Mosley Forum Pro • Posts: 20,707
Bernard, sorry I'm late :)

There's a fantastic guide here for m4/3rds adapters :

http://rangefinderrestorations.com/photo_posts/G1adapterlist.html

...and lots of experienced chat about legacy lenses here :
http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=44

Good luck!

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OP Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: thank you Phil, and a few more questions

Bernard au Clairvaux wrote:

So they dont focus at infinity? If you take something beyond 50 ft or so with the 50mm what happens? Is it way off?

I think whoever told you that had a faulty adapter, or one where the screws weren't properly fastened. Mine focus fine at infinity... They do seem to "bloom" a little more than the M.Zuiko ones on shots like this, but it doesn't bother me too much. (Might be normal for Standard grade lenses from the 70s and early 80s?)

(This one was shot over a fence so I had to guesstimate, would've set focus on the machine otherwise)

And if it was a photo at a closer distance all is well?

looks fine to me:

Is this the only company that males a reg 4/3 to FD cause I have looked before. Is it the infinity issue that perhaps keeps companies from making this particular adapter?

I've seen adapters by Rayqual (Miyamoto, same place that makes the official Voigtlander one) and some place called Kipon (which I've never heard of). Might be able to find them on the web. Everyone seems to be fairly happy with the RJ one though.

The reason most systems didn't get an FD adapter is the long pin sticking out from the back (or so I've been told). With the shallow flangeback distance of m4/3, the adapter can house it all and it's no problem anymore.

Bernard au Clairvaux Contributing Member • Posts: 612
thank you Brian and Phil

I will look at links a little later.

Most helpful.

Regards, Bernard

OP Phil Knall Regular Member • Posts: 320
Some more pictures

Homeless guys in Tokyo (A lot of them are surprisingly well organized...)
FD 28 2.8

Market around Ueno station
FD 28 2.8

Street musician "Ani-zoo" performing in front of Shinjuku station. Look him up on Youtube, he's awesome!
FD 50 1.8

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