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bobn2
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Re: They're not sparrows...

Joseph S Wisniewski wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

Bill Randall wrote:

WSSA: Worldwide Squirrel Shooters Association.

It was a group focused around photographing squirrels for the purpose
of improving photographic skills, and having fun.

Oh bμgger, you meant use a camera?

I'm not sure about the legality of shooting them with small arms.

Small arms aren't legal here in the UK, whatever you shoot with them. The legal situation is complex, many kids go around shooting squirrels with airguns, catapults, crossbows, etc. Generally, they don't get on the wrong side of the law, though I'm sure there is something they could be charged with. For shooting to eat, the only legal firearm is a shotgun, though I don't know many that eat squirrel. Red squirrels are definitely protected, the grey American Tree Rat not so.

Lately, I've been checking into what we are and are not allowed to do
to sparrows where I live. Those flying mice are excluded from both
federal and Michigan state regulations protecting birds.

We get squirrels, rabbit, pigeons and deer, all of which eat our crops. The local humane solution is to spread around lion dung from the safari park down the road. It is effective, but the solution is worse than the problem.
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They're not starlings...

shay guevara wrote:
. . .

The only sparrow in the United states that is not protected by law is
the House Sparrow (AKA English Sparrow).

From what he says I think he has House Sparrows. Round here it's
Starlings that drive us nuts in summer, they turn up mob handed and
chase everything smaller away.

Just as the swallows return from Argentina to the American Southwest every year, your Starlings return from Trinidad every year, where they're affectionately known as the Mighty Sparrow.

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Re: They're not starlings...

Billx08 wrote:

shay guevara wrote:
. . .

The only sparrow in the United states that is not protected by law is
the House Sparrow (AKA English Sparrow).

From what he says I think he has House Sparrows. Round here it's
Starlings that drive us nuts in summer, they turn up mob handed and
chase everything smaller away.

Just as the swallows return from Argentina to the American Southwest
every year, your Starlings return from Trinidad every year, where
they're affectionately known as the Mighty Sparrow.

LOL, so thats why we've been getting through so much damn bird food lately
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Re: Boooh

I made what I thought was a polite and meaningful response to your post but it appears I have been locked out. This is just a test.

Not locked out.

Phil -

After posting my first response this morning, indications on Dpreview were that it had been accepted with the number of minutes showing in "My Threads" (at one point it was 9 minutes) and the same number of minutes in the forum menu.

All of a sudden my post went away.

Will wait to see if this one goes away as well.

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To Phil....

Bill Randall wrote:

I made what I thought was a polite and meaningful response to your
post but it appears I have been locked out. This is just a test.

Not locked out.

Phil -

After posting my first response this morning, indications on Dpreview
were that it had been accepted with the number of minutes showing in
"My Threads" (at one point it was 9 minutes) and the same number of
minutes in the forum menu.

All of a sudden my post went away.

Will wait to see if this one goes away as well.

I forgot to mention the post itself never did show up. At first I thought it was the 2 minute delay sometimes experienced. I kept waiting and the number of minutes kept indicating my post was accepted but then vanished.

I just noticed the thread by Colossus I was responding to has been deleted. This would also delete my response. Must have all happened at the same time.

I think his post which you probably saw before deleting it, indicates the attitude of those apposed to WSSA.

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mamallama
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Re: Boooh

igb wrote:

mamallama wrote:

A corporation has no responsibility to "protect" or "promote" or
"respect" free speech. It can limit free speech in the course of
setting the rules for its business.

Evidently, that's debatable but I'd say that it is generally accepted
that corporations have certain responsibilities beyond their legal
obligations. As anecdotal evidence, some weeks ago there was a little
controversy about CNBC not educating investors but contributing to
the hype of the market . The interesting discussion, I think, is in
whether Amazon should follow standards comparable to those required
from CNBC and, if it's the case, whether an a transparent, open,
neutral, non-arbitrary moderation of their public forums should be
part of those standards.

IIRC, the CNBC case was more about restricting the free speech of Jim Cramer, the Mad Money man, who has an inflammatory way of giving market advice. Because those who felt he was thus contributing to the market doldrums went on a campaign to expose that the shouting by Jim Cramer in the past gave some bad market advice. With all that negative publicity being dug up, Jim agreed to tone down his speech.

That had NOTHING to do with CNCB having a responsibility to educate investors. You still have to take the advice of investors programs like that at your own risk.

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Re: They're not sparrows...

bobn2 wrote:

For shooting to eat, the only
legal firearm is a shotgun,

Not true, Bob. Rabbits, grey squirrel and woodpigeon may be shot with the appropriate airgun.

Grey squirrel is delicious.

bobn2
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Re: They're not sparrows...

Pattisboy wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

For shooting to eat, the only
legal firearm is a shotgun,

Not true, Bob. Rabbits, grey squirrel and woodpigeon may be shot with
the appropriate airgun.

Grey squirrel is delicious.

Don't think an airgun is a firearm, kind of an absence of fire. Ditto crossbows.
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bobn2
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Re: To Phil....

Bill,

strangely, I think it's my turn to suggest you might be paranoid. It's easy to think that DPR is taking measures against you, when in fact it's just their appallingly poor software. Another gripe I have with DPR, I suppose it's OK for the server side stuff to be as poor as it is (a natural consequence of anyone mad enough to use MS to power their servers) but the client side just eats every resource your computer has. Get the process stats on it, and you'll see the browser running DPR eating your memory and processor cycles for breakfast.

Bill Randall wrote:

Bill Randall wrote:

I made what I thought was a polite and meaningful response to your
post but it appears I have been locked out. This is just a test.

Not locked out.

Phil -

After posting my first response this morning, indications on Dpreview
were that it had been accepted with the number of minutes showing in
"My Threads" (at one point it was 9 minutes) and the same number of
minutes in the forum menu.

All of a sudden my post went away.

Will wait to see if this one goes away as well.

I forgot to mention the post itself never did show up. At first I
thought it was the 2 minute delay sometimes experienced. I kept
waiting and the number of minutes kept indicating my post was
accepted but then vanished.

I just noticed the thread by Colossus I was responding to has been
deleted. This would also delete my response. Must have all happened
at the same time.

I think his post which you probably saw before deleting it, indicates
the attitude of those apposed to WSSA.

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Bob

Bill Randall
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Re: To Phil....

Not paranoid. I was only reporting what happened as I discovered it happening. Colossus' thread being deleted at the same time I was posting my response provided some weird data for about nine minutes.

After the deleted posts, there was even more confusion since it appeared another Colossus post was what I was responding to. If you read his post that I was responding to you would understand why it was deleted.

What we are left with is that the one person that admitted to working against WSSA in support of Phil, is now disqualified by Phil. Interesting.

Bobn2 wrote:
Bill,

strangely, I think it's my turn to suggest you might be paranoid.
It's easy to think that DPR is taking measures against you, when in
fact it's just their appallingly poor software. Another gripe I have
with DPR, I suppose it's OK for the server side stuff to be as poor
as it is (a natural consequence of anyone mad enough to use MS to
power their servers) but the client side just eats every resource
your computer has. Get the process stats on it, and you'll see the
browser running DPR eating your memory and processor cycles for
breakfast.

Bill Randall wrote:

Bill Randall wrote:

I made what I thought was a polite and meaningful response to your
post but it appears I have been locked out. This is just a test.

Not locked out.

Phil -

After posting my first response this morning, indications on Dpreview
were that it had been accepted with the number of minutes showing in
"My Threads" (at one point it was 9 minutes) and the same number of
minutes in the forum menu.

All of a sudden my post went away.

Will wait to see if this one goes away as well.

I forgot to mention the post itself never did show up. At first I
thought it was the 2 minute delay sometimes experienced. I kept
waiting and the number of minutes kept indicating my post was
accepted but then vanished.

I just noticed the thread by Colossus I was responding to has been
deleted. This would also delete my response. Must have all happened
at the same time.

I think his post which you probably saw before deleting it, indicates
the attitude of those apposed to WSSA.

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Pattisboy Senior Member • Posts: 1,990
Re: They're not sparrows...

bobn2 wrote:

.....Don't think an airgun is a firearm, kind of an absence of fire.....

Bob, in the UK air rifles with a muzzle energy exceeding 12 foot-pounds are required to have a firearms certificate issued by the local police.

Airgun bbs.com will have all the gen if you're interested.

G. Gray
OP G. Gray Veteran Member • Posts: 4,535
Re: They're not sparrows...

You may find that airguns with sufficient high pressure and accelerated FPS of the projectile may very well considered under firearm regulations. Crossbows same.

I think that "They" are concerned that honest individuals may do some harm to each other. Of course those individuals who do not believe in the law will not be effected.
BTW I cannot imagine eating a squirrel
Gerry

bobn2 wrote:

Pattisboy wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

For shooting to eat, the only
legal firearm is a shotgun,

Not true, Bob. Rabbits, grey squirrel and woodpigeon may be shot with
the appropriate airgun.

Grey squirrel is delicious.

Don't think an airgun is a firearm, kind of an absence of fire. Ditto
crossbows.
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Since we can't keep crime in check, why don't we legalize it and tax it out of business?

bobn2
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Re: To Phil....

What you're observing is Askey radiation. The deletion causes a black hole in the forum continuum. If a pro-phil/anti-phil pair of posts emerges close to the hole, one might disappear beyond the event horizon of the hole, liberating the other to evaporate the credibility of DPR bit by bit.

Bill Randall wrote:
Not paranoid. I was only reporting what happened as I discovered it
happening. Colossus' thread being deleted at the same time I was
posting my response provided some weird data for about nine minutes.

After the deleted posts, there was even more confusion since it
appeared another Colossus post was what I was responding to. If you
read his post that I was responding to you would understand why it
was deleted.

What we are left with is that the one person that admitted to working
against WSSA in support of Phil, is now disqualified by Phil.
Interesting.

Bobn2 wrote:
Bill,

strangely, I think it's my turn to suggest you might be paranoid.
It's easy to think that DPR is taking measures against you, when in
fact it's just their appallingly poor software. Another gripe I have
with DPR, I suppose it's OK for the server side stuff to be as poor
as it is (a natural consequence of anyone mad enough to use MS to
power their servers) but the client side just eats every resource
your computer has. Get the process stats on it, and you'll see the
browser running DPR eating your memory and processor cycles for
breakfast.

Bill Randall wrote:

Bill Randall wrote:

I made what I thought was a polite and meaningful response to your
post but it appears I have been locked out. This is just a test.

Not locked out.

Phil -

After posting my first response this morning, indications on Dpreview
were that it had been accepted with the number of minutes showing in
"My Threads" (at one point it was 9 minutes) and the same number of
minutes in the forum menu.

All of a sudden my post went away.

Will wait to see if this one goes away as well.

I forgot to mention the post itself never did show up. At first I
thought it was the 2 minute delay sometimes experienced. I kept
waiting and the number of minutes kept indicating my post was
accepted but then vanished.

I just noticed the thread by Colossus I was responding to has been
deleted. This would also delete my response. Must have all happened
at the same time.

I think his post which you probably saw before deleting it, indicates
the attitude of those apposed to WSSA.

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Bob

Bill Randall
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Re: To Phil....

bobn2 wrote:

What you're observing is Askey radiation. The deletion causes a black
hole in the forum continuum. If a pro-phil/anti-phil pair of posts
emerges close to the hole, one might disappear beyond the event
horizon of the hole, liberating the other to evaporate the
credibility of DPR bit by bit.

The event horizon will get you every time. Keep separate what matters and what matters not.

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bobn2
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Re: To Phil....

Bill Randall wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

What you're observing is Askey radiation. The deletion causes a black
hole in the forum continuum. If a pro-phil/anti-phil pair of posts
emerges close to the hole, one might disappear beyond the event
horizon of the hole, liberating the other to evaporate the
credibility of DPR bit by bit.

The event horizon will get you every time. Keep separate what matters
and what matters not.

Unfortunately, you can't choose whether it's the bit that matters or the bit that doesn't that falls into the Ask-hole.
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Bob

Bill Randall
Bill Randall Forum Pro • Posts: 21,969
Re: To Phil....

bobn2 wrote:

Bill Randall wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

What you're observing is Askey radiation. The deletion causes a black
hole in the forum continuum. If a pro-phil/anti-phil pair of posts
emerges close to the hole, one might disappear beyond the event
horizon of the hole, liberating the other to evaporate the
credibility of DPR bit by bit.

The event horizon will get you every time. Keep separate what matters
and what matters not.

Unfortunately, you can't choose whether it's the bit that matters or
the bit that doesn't that falls into the Ask-hole.

Precisely. And it is this situation that provoked my natural human response -
"ready lasers".

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Re: To Phil....

bobn2 wrote:

What you're observing is Askey radiation. The deletion causes a black
hole in the forum continuum. If a pro-phil/anti-phil pair of posts
emerges close to the hole, one might disappear beyond the event
horizon of the hole, liberating the other to evaporate the
credibility of DPR bit by bit.

Or as quantum physicists describe it, that's when things start to get squirrely.

Bill Randall
Bill Randall Forum Pro • Posts: 21,969
Re: To Phil....

Billx08 wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

What you're observing is Askey radiation. The deletion causes a black
hole in the forum continuum. If a pro-phil/anti-phil pair of posts
emerges close to the hole, one might disappear beyond the event
horizon of the hole, liberating the other to evaporate the
credibility of DPR bit by bit.

Or as quantum physicists describe it, that's when things start to get
squirrely.

LOL

However, things are not allowed to get squirrely on Dpreview.

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My crossbows are WMDs...

bobn2 wrote:

Pattisboy wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

For shooting to eat, the only
legal firearm is a shotgun,

Not true, Bob. Rabbits, grey squirrel and woodpigeon may be shot with
the appropriate airgun.

Grey squirrel is delicious.

Don't think an airgun is a firearm, kind of an absence of fire. Ditto
crossbows.

You've never seen one of my crossbows...

My first had a three throw ratchet cocking mechanism and a 180 pound (80kg) pull. About 50J. First firing, the bolt put a nice, clean hole through my backstop and damaged a concrete wall.

I designed, but never built, one with a stock full of NiCads, solar charger, powered wormscrew cocking mechanism, 350 pound pull, 100J.

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So, do you have a trebuchet yet?

That war engine could take out your sparrows, your tree and your garage! No place to park the car, but birdy pests gone.

BTW: What is your objection to the humble house sparrow?
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