G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

Started May 12, 2009 | Discussions
Stuart Neale New Member • Posts: 14
G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

G1/GH1 system is very good but the accessories are far too expensive. Just paid £59 for the remote release cable. Cannot be justified and unless prices are reduced, the system will, I think, fail.

Pennyanne Senior Member • Posts: 1,933
I'm sadly inclined to agree

when I look at cost of 20 1:7 lens compared to equivalent (ish) pentax, nikon etc

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TBH, I really can't afford this system - not any more than I already have!! But cheap ebay converters have very effectively given versatility to the lenses I have, by cheap I mean $20 and you only need look at Wiggers' pics to see that they don't degrade IQ
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James M Hughes Senior Member • Posts: 2,007
Re: I'm sadly inclined to agree

Me too.

Panasonic behave like they're some sort of special Premium/Luxury Big Name Exclusive Boutique brand, and price their stuff accordingly. But they're not - they're Panasonic!

I want to get the 4/3rds lens adaptor for the G1, but am totally unimpressed by the high price of this item - it's ridiculously expensive for what it is. Why? What can this item possibly contain that makes it cost so much?

If the 4/3rds adaptor is REALLY worth as much as Panasonic ask, then something as complex as the G1 camera and lens should sell for about £2000.

J M Hughes

grzybu Regular Member • Posts: 155
Re: I'm sadly inclined to agree

I agree. 4/3 adapter price for G1 is ridiculous. Why it costs about 1/3 of G1 kit price? Is this really such high tech ring? Maybe it's made of mithrill?
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Roland Scheckter Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: I'm sadly inclined to agree

Pennyanne,

Where do you have the info on the cost of the new 20mm/f1.7? And what will the approximate (I guess it's not exactly priced yet) price be?

Rgds,

Roland Scheckter

Trevor G Veteran Member • Posts: 6,576
A very childish attitude...

James M Hughes wrote:

Panasonic behave like they're some sort of special Premium/Luxury Big
Name Exclusive Boutique brand, and price their stuff accordingly. But
they're not - they're Panasonic!

Bit childish, don't you think???

Who is forcing you to buy their product?

No one.

People who complain about the price of luxury items must be among the most miserable people on earth.

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James M Hughes Senior Member • Posts: 2,007
Re: A very childish attitude...

Trevor G wrote:

James M Hughes wrote:

Panasonic behave like they're some sort of special Premium/Luxury Big
Name Exclusive Boutique brand, and price their stuff accordingly. But
they're not - they're Panasonic!

Bit childish, don't you think???

Who is forcing you to buy their product?

No one.

People who complain about the price of luxury items must be among the
most miserable people on earth.

Thanks for putting me straight, Trevor - how impertinent of me to complain!

Of course; Panasonic can charge what they like - they're Panasonic - up there with Chanel, Louis Vuitton and Christian Dior. We should all be deeply grateful, and pay whatever price they care to ask.

J M Hughes

Trevor G Veteran Member • Posts: 6,576
Re: A very childish attitude...

James M Hughes wrote:

Of course; Panasonic can charge what they like ...We should all
be deeply grateful, and pay whatever price they care to ask.

Correct.

And why not? Can you do better? Does someone else do better?

They don't have a monopoly, and we live in a free-market world system. We have choice.

We have so much choice we should never complain. About anything as foolish as: "My luxury photographic items are costing me too much money."

Just don't buy - that's how they get the message...just don't buy.

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BigBarney Senior Member • Posts: 2,722
G1 - price of accessories

Stuart Neale wrote:

G1/GH1 system is very good but the accessories are far too expensive.
Just paid £59 for the remote release cable. Cannot be justified and
unless prices are reduced, the system will, I think, fail.

You are making the classic mistake of thinking that the whole world thinks like you do.:-) Panasonic UK have clearly decided to market this system as a high quality/high cost/high value system, and have decided that there are enough suitably well-heeled punters out there to justify this. They may be right or they may be wrong, but failure will be judged solely against whatever business plan they have presented to their masters in Japan, and what the central marketing group in Japan have decided on global positioning. If Panasonic decide to try and take on Canikon directly then we can expect to see prices fall, but if they try to follow a Leica strategy they may want to keep the system desirable but expensive.

All of us as individual photographers would like to see a high quality yet low cost system with great support. It is just that what we may want and what Panasonic deem necessary may be two different things.

If you think you have paid too much for the remote release then ask yourself why after market specialists in such things are not starting to supply the retail channels in the UK. Either they cannot do it at a lower price or they have better things to develop.

I believe there are after market companies producing these in other parts of the world, so it may be worth your while to start looking on international sales websites.
A place to start could be:

http://www.dpnotes.com/panasonic-g1-remote-shutter-release/

RayUK Senior Member • Posts: 1,030
Re: G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

Stuart

You should have done a bit more research on here before buying your Panasonic accessory. There are several threads on alternative makers of remote releases, including, if I remember correctly, some very cheap ones from the States. But several under £20 in the UK.

I don't think Pany are any worse than the other major camera names - they all overprice own-name accessories, which is why there's a busy alternative market

One thing we don't have at the moment is an alternative battery, but a thread yesterday indicated that might soon be changing.

Ray

James M Hughes Senior Member • Posts: 2,007
Re: A very childish attitude...

Trevor G wrote:

James M Hughes wrote:

Of course; Panasonic can charge what they like ...We should all
be deeply grateful, and pay whatever price they care to ask.

Correct.

And why not? Can you do better? Does someone else do better?

They don't have a monopoly, and we live in a free-market world
system. We have choice.

Er - they DO have a monopoly - if I want the 4/3 adaptor for the G1, I have but one choice; Panasonic. There is no alternative - there is no 'choice'.

Does that give them the right to charge what they like? Does that give them the right to pick our pockets? According to you it does - Panasonic must LOVE punters like you, Trevor! If there WAS a choice, the price would come down - no question about it.

So, sorry Panasonic, I ain't paying over the odds for your exorbitantly-priced little adaptor. To buy only encourages these companies to keep over-charging us - when all's said and done, it's an adaptor - not an exclusive fashion accessory or status symbol.

J M Hughes

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A Girard Veteran Member • Posts: 7,935
Expensive is in the eyes of the beholder...

People complain about the price of all kinds of items, however at the same time they've invested on other luxury items like a huge t.v., fancy car or car stereo. Some are throwing their money away on a smoking habit that costs them thousands of dollars, but complain about the price of meat at the grocery store....I don't get it, I really don't..

If the price of this little remote is too expensive, don't buy it.

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Jay Gloab Senior Member • Posts: 1,093
Re: G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

Stuart Neale wrote:

G1/GH1 system is very good but the accessories are far too expensive.
Just paid £59 for the remote release cable. Cannot be justified and
unless prices are reduced, the system will, I think, fail.

Cannot be justified? And yet, you bought it.
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Jan Erik Stokke Regular Member • Posts: 306
Re: G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

Well, I paid $6 for my remote. From Hong Kong. Hama has one, too.
Havent tried it yet. It is not exacly rocket science, so I guess it works.

Soon we will probably have cheap batteries as well.

I am more worried about the price of the 7-18 and the 20mm f1.7.
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James M Hughes Senior Member • Posts: 2,007
Re: G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

I think most people are prepared to pay a fair price for something. What they don't like is a company charging exorbitant sums for items that frankly aren't worth the asking price.

It's not just about money; no one likes having their pocket-picked, no matter how rich they might be. It's the thought that you're being ripped off that rankles.

Certain luxury brands can charge excessive amounts for their products and get away with it. Why? because, being seen out with these brands says 'something' about You.

If a woman buys an expensive designer handbag, she's sending out a message - that she has money, taste, and style. In terms of materials, a Louis Vuitton bag might not be 'worth' £800, but what it says about you when you carry one is (almost) priceless.

Buying a camera like the Panny G1 makes no such statement. Maybe buying a Leica does, but not a Panny. That's why people pay more for the Leica version of Panny cameras - and why Panny wanted the Leica name on their lenses.

Back in 2003, my very first digital camera was a Panasonic - a DMC-LC5 - the Panny version of the Leica Digilux 1. I chose a Panasonic because it because it had a Leica Vario-Summicron Lens - simple as that. I felt I was gettting a Digilux 1 for half price.

Had the LC5 not sported a 'Leica' lens, I'd not have considered buying it. For me, Panasonic aren't a 'proper' camera brand - only the Leica name gives them legitimacy. In the same way, I'd always choose Pentax over Samsung, even though they might offer more or less identical products.

This is where Panasonic are going wrong; they seem to have this inflated view of themselves as an exclusive iconic luxury brand. But they're not! Never have been; Never will be.

J M Hughes

OP Stuart Neale New Member • Posts: 14
Re: G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

It was ordered from my normal retailer before it was known that Panasonic would charge these very high prices-the same in Canon would be around £30.
Actually the item doesn't work anyway, so it's going back for a refund.

James M Hughes Senior Member • Posts: 2,007
Re: G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

Stuart Neale wrote:

-the same in Canon would be around £30.

And even that's too expensive - LOL!

J M Hughes

Barry Fitzgerald Forum Pro • Posts: 29,888
Re: G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

I paid £6 for a aputure one for my Minolta's, inc p&p 3 metres I think. It was significantly cheaper than the Sony new or Minolta s/h ones. The quality was very good, well made.

All makers do rip folks off on stupid stuff like this, that cost mere pence to make. I have to say though, looking at some of pannies prices, they are up there with the worst, esp the battery..far worse than Sony even (and I didn't buy one of those either

Best thing to do is show makers we are "smart enough" to know when we get a fair price, and when it's a rip off. Don't buy the stuff..

Gato Amarillo Veteran Member • Posts: 5,001
No worse than most

Camera makers are notorious for pricey accessories, and so far it hasn't seemed to hurt any of them. Luckily the entrepreneurial Chinese have stepped in with low-cost options in many areas, including the Panasonic remote cord.

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James M Hughes Senior Member • Posts: 2,007
Re: G1 Accessories Too Expensive.

Barry Fitzgerald wrote:

Best thing to do is show makers we are "smart enough" to know when we
get a fair price, and when it's a rip off. Don't buy the stuff..

I'm hoping my refusal to buy the DMW-MA1 adaptor will bring Panasonic to its knees. In a sense I'll be sorry to see such a huge corporation humbled and humiliated, but frankly they brought it on themselves -).

J M Hughes

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