Do you shoot using the Live View function

Started Apr 15, 2009 | Discussions
gmosc Veteran Member • Posts: 5,950
Re: Do you shoot using the Live View function

I'm glad to see the tone of this thread hasn't turned nasty like they sometimes do.

The live view isn't perfect, some might say it's awful but then that's why we are all here, to learn how to take an awkward tool and make it usable.

This tip has been said many times on this thread but I think it needs to be said again and maybe in a way that might explain it differently.

1) Switch over to MF.
2) turn on live view,
3) hit the + button a 3 or 4 times to zoom in a bit,
4) focus and shoot.

It takes longer to describe than to do and makes manual focussing sooo much easier.

Guy Moscoso

jonrobertp Forum Pro • Posts: 12,876
Yes, hold the cam up above the crowd and shoot..u know what you are getting.
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jean bernier Veteran Member • Posts: 3,181
Re: Tried it...

D200_4me wrote:

I've tried it a few times, but unless I'm missing something, you
press the shutter release down halfway to get the view...then you
press it again all the way down to make it focus and take the photo.
It just seems a little weird to me the way it works and it causes me
to wonder what's going on since the screen goes dark while it's
focusing and taking the photo. I'd like it better if I could press
half way down to get the view and the focus, then a final press to
take the photo.

Actually, in handheld mode, the camera focusses before opening the shutter, if you half press the shutter release before fully pressing: if the camera does not find the focus because of a lot of camera shaking (likely at arm length), or if the lens is all the way focussed at the other end (like minimum focus), the live view may be blurry if no accurate focus is achieved during the brief time the shutter release is half pressed. While the mirror is up, the camera loses ability to focus (it's an slr, so the AF module is blinded while mirror is up). When the shutter is fully released again, focus is initiated, and the shot is taken after focus is achieved: there may be a fraction of a second of delay before the shot is taken, depending on the conditions. In other words, the camera re-checks focus before taking the shot, and I think this is good strategy, as the distance may change between subject and camera while you're using LV.

Work around: while in LV, if you half press the shutter, the mirror goes down, and AF is readjusted. Lift your finger, and no picture is taken yet. You can half press many times in order to refresh focus to follow action, and no shot is taken until the shutter release is fully pressed.

Another work around is to use manual focus: after establishing focus, open LV, and taking the picture will happen instantly when fully pressing the release.

Or for those that have elected the AF-ON button as the AF initiator, focus is done with AF-ON, open LV, AF-ON is pressed again during LV to refresh focus if desired , press shutter for instant picture.

No pic is ever taken unless you hear the distinct double "clak-clak".

It works fine, it just throws me off with the way it

works so I find myself not using it. If it worked more like a point
and shoot in that live view mode, that would be better....constant
live view...press half way to focus (live view still on screen) then
final press all the way down to take the picture...then automatically
return to live view. That would be better.

One of the reasons there was such a long delay before shot was taken with P&S.

Now it's better. The lens did not need such accurate focus because of very short focal length, there was very little physical movement of the lens, and there was plenty of time to focus while framing on the LCD.

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Kuvasauna Contributing Member • Posts: 848
For macro yes (nt)
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D200_4me
D200_4me Veteran Member • Posts: 4,526
Thanks

Thanks for the explanation. I think it's best if I go with manual focus with LV. I think that will work out better for me I'll try that.

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rundadar Veteran Member • Posts: 3,053
Guy,

You make an interesting and very valid point. Still, for how and what I shoot (personally!) live view functionality is not useful. I am not against it (or any other technology for that matter) - it's just that I don't have a reason to use it. I don't use auto-focus or zoom lenses either - it does not mean that I think AF or zoom lenses don't have their uses. Just not for me.

gmosc wrote:
For anyone who said "never" Did you learn anything new from the
people here who listed some ideas? Will you consider using live view
for any of those purposes?

It would be refreshing to hear that at least one of you learned
something from other fellow photographers. I have a feeling that we
are all stuck in our ways and we sort of troll these forums to find
some fresh blood to pass our habits on to, but as for learning from
each other, I sort of doubt it. (Please, somebody, prove me wrong).

Guy Moscoso

vincent_ph wrote:

I've been using my D700 for 2 months now, and haven't used it once,
I'm just thinking how useful has this feature been to you? I am an
event photographer by the way specializing in weddings.

Martin Greeson Senior Member • Posts: 1,011
Yes I use it, and

yes I learned a new way to put it to use. I just never thought to use it to adjust color balance. Great Idea! I usually take a guess and shoot a pic and adjust from the image until I get the color I want. Live view is quicker and very easy. Thanks for the tip.

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maljo@inreach.com Veteran Member • Posts: 7,699
Don't use it, did try it a few times:

concerned about power consumption.
its clunky.
doesn't seem to help with landscape photography.
might be good for critical focus with macro photography.
the view through the view finder is pretty terrific, actually.
we had this this view cameras and got rid of it with 35 mm SLRs.

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joecan Veteran Member • Posts: 3,979
Only for macros

after enlarged the most interesting part of the subject.
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m_appeal Veteran Member • Posts: 3,434
Useful for manual focus

to magnify to check focus.

Jim Carney Contributing Member • Posts: 692
Re: Do you shoot using the Live View function

Nikon's live view? In their DSLRs? Never! They are a pain to use and the contrast focusing is glacially slow. Dear Nikon: Please see Panasonic G1 for inspiration on this.

Jeff Kohn Veteran Member • Posts: 4,855
Re: Don't use it, did try it a few times:

maljo@inreach.com wrote:

concerned about power consumption.
its clunky.

I use LiveView extensively for shooting from a tripod, not to mention using review mode to check exposures, etc. On my most recent trip I shot close to 16GB on a single EN-EL4 battery. Maybe that's not as good as I would have gotten if I avoided using the LCD but it's good enough for me not to worry about battery life. With one spare EL4 I can take a 4-day trip and not have to worry about bringing along my battery charger.

doesn't seem to help with landscape photography.
might be good for critical focus with macro photography.

So you don't care about focus for landscape photography, only macro?

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douglas d Regular Member • Posts: 478
Re: Do you shoot using the Live View function

Not at first, as I didn't like the fact I had to switch to mirror lockup to take the shot with my cable release. But I a fairly recent outing a gave it another try and it is starting to grow on my, though I still don't like the minor annoyance of switching to mirror lockup for the shot.

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sugar Senior Member • Posts: 2,136
On tripod

so, for macro work , architecture and landscape

vincent_ph wrote:

I've been using my D700 for 2 months now, and haven't used it once,
I'm just thinking how useful has this feature been to you? I am an
event photographer by the way specializing in weddings.

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MOD Higuma Veteran Member • Posts: 4,418
YES - 7 times in 53,000 shots... NT

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Sorry - 9 times if you count the D300 as well.. NT

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pjog Regular Member • Posts: 142
Re: Do you shoot using the Live View function

Agree about the switch to mirror-up. Ity does seem like an almost foolproof way of focusing on static subjects - as long as there is no focus shift on stopping down.

Jeff Kohn Veteran Member • Posts: 4,855
Re: Do you shoot using the Live View function

pjog wrote:

Agree about the switch to mirror-up. Ity does seem like an almost
foolproof way of focusing on static subjects - as long as there is no
focus shift on stopping down.

With MF lenses (including the PC-E Nikkors), LiveView is always in DOF Preview mode, so you can focus wide-open and then stop the lens down and check to make sure you have enough DOF. This would also hope identifying any focus shift.

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Rick Knepper
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I'll never go back to the viewfinder

I had a D700 for couple of weeks and returned it. I had it long enough to determine that I want a Nikon to complement my Canons. I am wating for the D700x. I must admit that I do not remember much about Nikon's Live View except the LCD became somewhat washed out in sunlight (although it was cut above my 5D's readability).

I manually focus all of my lenses including the AF ones. Live View as implemented in the 5D mkII is a marvel for landscape photography. Also, the LCD has a coating on it that allows one to clearly see the image for focusing and metering purposes in most types of daylight. I am hoping Nikon takes note of this.

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