Pentax 645D with 30 MP sensor, new D-FA 55/2.8 lens

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stratokaster Forum Member • Posts: 56
Pentax 645D with 30 MP sensor, new D-FA 55/2.8 lens

Tomorrow Pentax will officially announce 645D with 30 MP sensor and new D FA 55mm F/2.8 lens.

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stratokaster wrote:

Tomorrow Pentax will officially announce 645D with 30 MP sensor and
new D FA 55mm F/2.8 lens.

Thank you for the info.
Rui

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jonny1976 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,277
Re: Pentax 645D with 30 MP sensor, new D-FA 55/2.8 lens

price?

i hope the camera will have a back that can be used also with view camera and camera like silvestri or alpa..this is the breakpoint for me. i'd like to buy a mf system and a view camer, not in the future maybe next year and the possibility to use the back also with large camera is too important.

in addition what about the lens? how many lens is pentax producing for medium format now?

mamiya and hassy aare still producing many lenses...hassy also a tilt and shift accessory

stratokaster wrote:

Tomorrow Pentax will officially announce 645D with 30 MP sensor and
new D FA 55mm F/2.8 lens.

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steephill Veteran Member • Posts: 9,861
Re: Pentax 645D with 30 MP sensor, new D-FA 55/2.8 lens

jonny1976 wrote:

in addition what about the lens? how many lens is pentax producing
for medium format now?

How about these? http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/filmcamera/lens/index645n2_list.html

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JensR Forum Pro • Posts: 17,971
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steephill wrote:

jonny1976 wrote:

in addition what about the lens? how many lens is pentax producing
for medium format now?

How about these?
http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/filmcamera/lens/index645n2_list.html

Hi Steve!
I think Jonny was asking about actual production lenses?

I think few people outside Pentax (if any) really know which 645 lenses are actually produced and which are "remaining stock".
The website you referenced seems suspicious, as some lenses on this
http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/filmcamera/lens/index35_list.html
list are certainly no longer available.

To be fair, "remaining stock" might be just as good or even better for 645 owners as/than "in production", unless demand is higher than the "remaining stock".

Cheers
Jens

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jonny1976 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,277
Re: Pentax 645D with 30 MP sensor, new D-FA 55/2.8 lens

agree

if you go to mmiya and hassy site they show actual producion lenses.
for me entax is going to place he camera a no more than 10000 dollar.
in italy right now you can buy a hassy 39 wih 31 milion pixel a 12000 euro.

JensR wrote:

steephill wrote:

jonny1976 wrote:

in addition what about the lens? how many lens is pentax producing
for medium format now?

How about these?
http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/filmcamera/lens/index645n2_list.html

Hi Steve!
I think Jonny was asking about actual production lenses?
I think few people outside Pentax (if any) really know which 645
lenses are actually produced and which are "remaining stock".
The website you referenced seems suspicious, as some lenses on this
http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/filmcamera/lens/index35_list.html
list are certainly no longer available.
To be fair, "remaining stock" might be just as good or even better
for 645 owners as/than "in production", unless demand is higher than
the "remaining stock".

Cheers
Jens

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tigrebleu Senior Member • Posts: 2,060
Officially?

You mean like in truly official or like in "We will launch it tomorrow afternoon and will cancel the program tomorrow morning"?

Jokes aside, I hope Pentax will be successful with this camera. I'm crossing my fingers in hope it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. An arm alone will be enough!

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Tomorrow Pentax will officially announce 645D with 30 MP sensor and
new D FA 55mm F/2.8 lens.

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vparseval Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: Pentax 645D with 30 MP sensor, new D-FA 55/2.8 lens

stratokaster wrote:

Tomorrow Pentax will officially announce 645D with 30 MP sensor and
new D FA 55mm F/2.8 lens.

Where is this new D FA 55mm suddenly coming from? I've not even heard the hint of a rumor regarding such a lens. Given it's an FA, it would have to be covering a 35mm frame, right?

I recently got myself a a couple of old Pentax film cameras (ME Super and SuperProgram) which I very much intend to use. This shifted my focus a little away from the DA lenses towards those covering a full frame.

Cheers,
Tassilo

leopold Forum Pro • Posts: 14,083
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Hi,
they said not long ago that it was for Japan only,now it's coming true!
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bjmano Regular Member • Posts: 288
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Hahah, wow that was funny.

Those are more tempting than some of the lenses in the current line-up! (even if they aren't for APS-C)

steephill wrote:

jonny1976 wrote:

in addition what about the lens? how many lens is pentax producing
for medium format now?

How about these?
http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/filmcamera/lens/index645n2_list.html

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Alex Sarbu Forum Pro • Posts: 13,082
Re: Pentax 645D with 30 MP sensor, new D-FA 55/2.8 lens

vparseval wrote:

Where is this new D FA 55mm suddenly coming from? I've not even heard
the hint of a rumor regarding such a lens. Given it's an FA, it would
have to be covering a 35mm frame, right?

Cheers,
Tassilo

Given it's a 645 D FA lens, it would have to be covering at least double the area
I remember a lens like this was on an old roadmap.

Alex S.

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JanneM Senior Member • Posts: 1,045
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JensR wrote:

steephill wrote:

jonny1976 wrote:

in addition what about the lens? how many lens is pentax producing
for medium format now?

How about these?
http://www.pentax.jp/english/imaging/filmcamera/lens/index645n2_list.html

Hi Steve!
I think Jonny was asking about actual production lenses?
I think few people outside Pentax (if any) really know which 645
lenses are actually produced and which are "remaining stock".

"In production" is a slippery concept when it comes to lenses - for Pentax as for any other maker (including Canon and other mass market companies). With the exception of kit lenses and perhaps a couple of other highly popular sellers, lenses are typically not in continuous production.

What manufacturers typically do is they schedule a production run of lens elements for a specific lens, enough for the projected demand until the next scheduled run. Barrels, fittings and electronics are ordered or produced separately, and as the elements are finished they get assembled into finished lenses. Once the run is done, they start on the next lens.

As I understand it, all the accessory parts, like barrels and so on are cheap to produce, but only when you make or order a lot at a time. Lens elements and assembly - grinding, polishing, gluing, fitting, measuring and so on - is where most of the cost lies, and you don't get a lot of scale benefit from running large batches.

So, as long as you have the accessory parts, even a very rare lens can still easily be "in production". You can run a few sets of elements now and again and always have a few units in stock. In fact, the long "special order only" tele lenses that Pentax (and other manufacturers) have, are probably just rare enough that they don't make units beforehand: instead, when somebody orders one, they schedule a set of elements to be produced and assembled into a lens.

A lens typically is "out of production" only when you have no more of the accessory fittings and it's too expensive to make another batch - when the molds used are worn out, for instance, and would need to be replaced. Or, as we have seen lately, when the lens materials can no longer be used and the lens would need to be reformulated.

So even a rare thing like the 600/4 (or the 67 800/5.6) are available for as long as they have the parts and can get the glass blanks needed to make another unit.

Match Cheng Forum Member • Posts: 53
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I heard about that in some of the chinese web site.

It looks interesting. We will know 2 days after.

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JensR Forum Pro • Posts: 17,971
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Hi Jan!

Good points.
So...

Do they still have the lens blanks and parts for the 645 lenses as they have them for the FA 20-35?

Or, as we have seen lately, when the lens materials can no
longer be used and the lens would need to be reformulated.

Interesting point, especially considering the age of the 645 designs.

Cheers
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Top > PENTAX to Exhibit Reference Products at Photo Imaging Expo 2009 in Japan
News Release

March 24, 2009
PENTAX to Exhibit Reference Products at Photo Imaging Expo 2009 in Japan

HOYA CORPORATION PENTAX Imaging Systems Division is pleased to announce the exhibition of the following reference products, all currently under development, at Photo Imaging Expo 2009. This is one of the largest annual photographic merchandize trade shows in Asia, and will be held this year from March 26 to 29 at Tokyo Big Sight in Ariake, Tokyo.

Reference Products

Product type: Lens-interchangeable medium-format digital SLR camera
Model name (tentative): PENTAX 645 Digital

Product information:

Extra-large, super-high-megapixel CCD image sensor with more than 30.0 total megapixels (tentative)
Compatibility with existing smc PENTAX 645 interchangeable lenses
Market launch scheduled for 2010

Product type: Interchangeable standard lens for exclusive use with PENTAX medium-format digital SLR camera
Model name (tentative): smc PENTAX-D FA645 55mm F2.8

Product information:

A standard lens designed for exclusive use with the PENTAX 645 Digital (tentative name)

Advanced optical design with all properties of lens element groups, including curvature and lens coating, optimized for digital photography

Market launch scheduled for 2010 (Will be marketed simultaneously with the PENTAX 645 Digital camera body)

Notes: Model names, designs, specifications and market launch schedules of these products are all tentative and subject to change without notices. Prices of these products will be announced at a later date.
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Link to Pentax 645 news release

http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2009/200905.html
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Sean Nelson
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Re: Pentax 645D with 30 MP sensor, new D-FA 55/2.8 lens

vparseval wrote:

Where is this new D FA 55mm suddenly coming from?

This lens makes a lot of sense for the 645D because with the "cropped" MF sensor (likely 36 x 48mm rather than the "full frame" of 45 x 60mm of film) the lens will have a "normal" field of view. The 75mm that's considered "normal" with the film camera would be a slight telephoto with the digital version, just as a 50mm lens is with an APS-C sensor.

JensR Forum Pro • Posts: 17,971
What?!

http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2009/200905.html

Scheduled for 2010, tentaively more than 30 MP, "extra large sensor".
Are we sure they currently have more than a wooden prototype with a Leaf back?

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parallaxproblem Veteran Member • Posts: 5,335
Market Launch Scheduled for 2010...

No month given

It is currently March 2009

Hum...

Never mind, we get a silver K20D and a 'camoflage' military-style K-m to keep us going in the meantime :-/

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Ursinho73 Regular Member • Posts: 433
Re: What?!

The bottomline of this announcement is apparently given in its bottomline:

"Notes: Model names, designs, specifications and market launch schedules of
these products are all tentative and subject to change without notices."

This sort of launch announcement puts Pentax really to shame!

Regards,
Hannes

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