Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

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amonsul Regular Member • Posts: 283
Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

Ok guys, it seems we have to wait for m4/3.

Maybe we can use this time to make something usefull. We can collect some suggestions for OLY!

I will collect your suggestion and send it to my oly friends! And they will listen!

Let's begin

1) I need a camera similar sized to the leica m8 but possibly lighter and thinner. Something I can carry with me easily!
2) 18mm 1.4 ! okok maybe it would be to expensive and bulky, 18mm 1.7!
3) 12-30mm 2.8 zoom

4) Video mode is not really important to me but 720 50p would be perfect. But I think this will make the camera bigger

and you???

Thekman03 Regular Member • Posts: 210
Re: Give your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

1. good pancake, F2.0 or so
2. small body, like the prototype model

Thats about it for me.

JonathanF Senior Member • Posts: 1,389
Re: Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

Forget about Oly m4/3 bodies. The GH1 looks untouchable.

Just develope a full line of HG m4/3 lens, including a superzoom.
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simpy Veteran Member • Posts: 3,140
my wish list

Ok, I'll play. What I'd like to see is:

0) compact (obviously); at least slightly smaller than the E-620, with IS, swivel screen not necessary, with EVF, good base ISO performance
1) weather sealed body and lens range
2) wide-to-normal zoom, like the 11-22mm (maybe 10-25mm)?
3) fast wide/normal prime: 20mm f/1.7 (seems Panasonic may do this)
4) portrait/short tele prime: 40mm f/1.4
5) short tele zoom: 40-100mm f/2.8
6) NO @#$% xD cards. please.

We'll see.
Cheers,
Simon

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FFS Senior Member • Posts: 1,761
Re: Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

1. How about design considerations that complement 4/3?

i.e. interchangeability (where it is possible) of the components like lenses (definitely), existing flash guns, batteries (BL-S). It makes m4/3 products more attractive to 4/3 users, and m4/3 users more attracted to 4/3 products.

2. Compatibility with microSD.

talephotos Senior Member • Posts: 1,030
Re: Give your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

Dangerous question.

For me mFT video IS important and because of that I'm quite likely to look to Panasonic. Likewise getting as many FT lenses compatible with auto-focus, even if they are slow to focus, is important

  • series of pancake primes is needed so it's highely pocketable (eg 9mm, 12mm, 17.5mm, 22.5mm - hopefully without 1.5% distortion like the 25mm FT pancake)

  • other than the consumer camera I want Olympus to make a mFT camera that is as advanced as they possibly can i.e. as fast as they can, as well built as possible: a mFT flagship (like the E-1/E-3 to FT) but obviously to mFT proportions and strengths (also = weathersealed body and lens range)

  • video implimentation like panasonic

  • swivel LCD

  • EVF in position like a rangefinder

  • silent shutter

  • no xD card or microSD(probably SDHC instead)

That's all I can think of right now...

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linuxworks Forum Pro • Posts: 18,937
Re: Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

JonathanF wrote:

Forget about Oly m4/3 bodies. The GH1 looks untouchable.

with pany running things, the price will be untouchable, too, for about half its life time (as a product). it will approach 'good price/perf' at the tail end of its cycle when they will have firesale pricing.

the batteries are also a scam and you have to add in a few spare OEM batts to get a better cost-of-ownership number.

pany also believes in forcing you to buy OIS if you want any kind of IS at all. this also adds to total COE.

finally, pany's g1 is not exactly built to pro standards; unless you think its ok for lettering and rubber to rub off in only a few months time!

I have hope for m43 but its thru oly, not pany, that I have hope in. once oly ships a real m43 product, then we'll have a better idea of how the 2 companies see this format playing out.

(my guess is that it may be a technical win but that some other company and some other 'tiny format' will eventually win, long-term.)

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paultakeda Senior Member • Posts: 1,782
GH-1 totally touchable.

The concept model shown last year is an ideal. It can even be considered complementary to a larger body like the Panasonics, while keeping lens compatibility.

JonathanF wrote:

Forget about Oly m4/3 bodies. The GH1 looks untouchable.

Just develope a full line of HG m4/3 lens, including a superzoom.
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SteB
SteB Veteran Member • Posts: 4,547
Re: Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

Body based IS and SD cards. And please lots and lots of macro equipment. Olympus used to be the king of macro. I'd love to see something like the old auto-extension tube updated for the digital age - whether it's a lens, or a tube with several lens heads. I use the Canon MP-E 65mm a lot and the forerunner of this was Olympus' auto extension tube. I think m4/3 has great potential for macro and whilst it might not be the biggest selling area I think it heavily influences other photographers. Serious macro nuts like me have had to get a Canon system simply because no one else makes a macro lens that goes beyond 1:1.

round glass Regular Member • Posts: 190
Yes, I agree -- m4/3 is a natural for macro (nt)
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Don Richardson Senior Member • Posts: 1,454
Re: Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

Let's get on with it. I love being suprised by the E-620 but it really makes my hungry for the mFT. You think that might be what they want?
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BorisK1 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,645
I would look into buying one if and only if...

... it could focus with my lenses (11-22 and 50mm), at least as fast as my E-300.

I'd also need an EVF.

Boris

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exp1orer Senior Member • Posts: 2,813
superslim pancakes, rugged body

12mm f1.4
14mm f1.4
25mm f1.4
50mm f1.4

  • rugged compact body

  • i don't mind having no IS for as long as it is really compact with dust buster.

  • AF-assist light (a MUST)

  • i don't mind having no hot shoe

  • EVF at the left top corner of the back face

  • more buttons (and programmable)

  • SDHC and no xD card

  • HD video with stereo sound

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OP amonsul Regular Member • Posts: 283
Re: Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3
tex Veteran Member • Posts: 8,846
my criteria for a successful OLY version

panny has already successfully hit with a good consumer model, so here's my top ten list:

1. high build quality [remember the c8080?], beautiful design
2. ideally weatherproof, with lenses to match
3. ovf or evf, not just lcd

4. i'd trade a little bulk for an articualting lcd---otherwise, put the money in the evf.
5. IS
6. good iso performance through 800, decent at 1600
7. 10mp is fine for a camera like this. give me 8 with great iso performance!
8. good, straightforward controls. keep me out of the menus
9. good battery life and faster recharger.

10. lenses favoring several primes [12 or 14, 25-ish, 43-ish, maybe a 60/70(?), all with some speed] and several zooms [9-27, 18-50, 45-135]. pretty solid travel kit.

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JonathanF Senior Member • Posts: 1,389
Re: Your suggestion to Olympus for the upcoming m4/3

I mis-read the specs and thought OIS was in the body. Without body IS, it is less attractive.

I put a lot of value in video though, and the GH1 seems to implement it perfectly.

I guess it is back to waiting for Oly. Hopefully equally good video, swivel LCD, body IS, and some bright glass.

linuxworks wrote:

JonathanF wrote:

Forget about Oly m4/3 bodies. The GH1 looks untouchable.

with pany running things, the price will be untouchable, too, for
about half its life time (as a product). it will approach 'good
price/perf' at the tail end of its cycle when they will have firesale
pricing.

the batteries are also a scam and you have to add in a few spare OEM
batts to get a better cost-of-ownership number.

pany also believes in forcing you to buy OIS if you want any kind of
IS at all. this also adds to total COE.

finally, pany's g1 is not exactly built to pro standards; unless you
think its ok for lettering and rubber to rub off in only a few months
time!

I have hope for m43 but its thru oly, not pany, that I have hope in.
once oly ships a real m43 product, then we'll have a better idea of
how the 2 companies see this format playing out.

(my guess is that it may be a technical win but that some other
company and some other 'tiny format' will eventually win, long-term.)

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Oly E-510, 11-22, 35, 14-54, 18-180, 35, TCON-17, FL-36
Canon S1IS, Casio QV-3000

round glass Regular Member • Posts: 190
What he said:

But I also want to suggest:

Keep a high quality optical viewfinder in mind.
This can save space and energy.

Rangefinder function not a factor with auto focus.
Instead some innovation with dynamic framelines, for example.

IS is preferred.

Good manual focus on LCD.

Hot shoe, IR focus assist.

Built in flash optional.

Jan

BorisK1 Veteran Member • Posts: 5,645
Re: What he said:

round glass wrote:

But I also want to suggest:

Keep a high quality optical viewfinder in mind.

Without the mirror box? How? You can't seriously consider one of those clip-on single-focal-length jobs?

Boris

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John_McG Contributing Member • Posts: 618
Can it work with my travel kit?

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sproket1 Senior Member • Posts: 2,762
You're Kidding Right?

The Olympus prototype was out at Photo Expo months ago. I'm sure they are

down to end of their development cycle...approaching pre-production. Think it's a little late for them to listen now.....

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