Ban on dSLRs at events due to 5D2 video

Started Feb 26, 2009 | Discussions
planetMitch
planetMitch Regular Member • Posts: 301
Ban on dSLRs at events due to 5D2 video

posting here because i thought you might be interested to discuss (and my comments feature on the blog sux and I'm gonna move to a new blog soon)...

blog post - new DSLR bans impacting folks wanting to bring cameras to events http://bit.ly/lmqqM

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Christian Sirois Regular Member • Posts: 342
Re: Ban on dSLRs at events due to 5D2 video

I personnaly hope that this barrier will not stop Canon (and other manufacturers) to include video in they're cameras. I think video is a great feature and once every DSLR had is, people banning then will have to come up with a better solution i guess.

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mansito Contributing Member • Posts: 879
Re: Ban on dSLRs at events due to 5D2 video

nikon has a DSLR that does video too that came out before 5D2.

neroangelo Contributing Member • Posts: 841
Re: Ban on dSLRs at events due to 5D2 video

Thanks for the post Mitch, will have to check events here to see if the same is going to happen...

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planetMitch
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Re: Ban on dSLRs at events due to 5D2 video

you're welcome

of course the question becomes this - if you ask and they didn't know it was possible in the first place, then are you screwed just because you asked? LOL

of course, nobody wants to get stuck at an event with a camera that is banned and then have to deal with it.

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tyue Regular Member • Posts: 334
With or without, DSLRs are not permitted in Saddledome

CAMERAS AND RECORDING DEVICES:

Video cameras, monopods, tripods, audio recording devices and cameras with telephoto or zoom lenses are not permitted inside the Pengrowth Saddledome at any time. This policy will be strictly enforced. Disposable or small personal cameras (with no zoom or telephoto lens) are permitted at Calgary Flames, Calgary Hitmen and Calgary Roughnecks games, however, for some events, cameras of any type and/or flash photography may be prohibited.

Individual events have the right to revoke this policy without prior notification.

Why?

Among other reasons. They were selling 8x10 hockey player photos in the gift shop at $10 a pop. One way to protect the income stream.

smatty Senior Member • Posts: 2,007
Honestly...

as much as I really like my 5DMKII, I find the Video function to be very limited. If you put it on a tripod and shoot stationary or slow moving scenes, it can do a very good job. Or if you are a video guru (like Vincent L. etc) you can get some great results. But my €500 HD camcorder would do a much better job at concerts or sports events than the 25FPS, slow contrast focusing shallow DOF 5DMKII. And probably a compact cameras (wich is often allowed to bring into those events) with video mode might even get better results in those situations....

Sometimes people who put a ban on something have too little knowledge about the subject to differentiate

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cityphotographer Senior Member • Posts: 2,510
ban? where?

nobody cares about the video thing, they may ban white big glass (in the canon world) but because of the short video thing? on youtube? I don't think they even care.

ck_WTB Regular Member • Posts: 367
Re: Ban on dSLRs at events due to 5D2 video

I tend to follow the rule, never leave home without a camera. So when I recent attended an evening concert at a downtown medium sized venue I brought my 5Dmk2 with 50 f/1.4 carried in a small LowePro REZO bag. When going through the metal detector/search the only comment I got was "nice camera," which at the time I thought was kind of funny that someone would make such an observation with DSLRs being a dime and dozen these days. However, the camera indeed proved to be a very nice camera. I've been using it intensively over the last month for commercial and personal applications, but this was my first low light concert usage.

I took photos here and there, but I also took quite a bit of video until I was told very politely that photos were fine but video was not allowed. The videos that I did get were nothing short of amazing. As a result of standing right next to the speakers the sound was blown out (I was wearing ear plugs the sounds was so loud) but otherwise this was a perfect application for the 5Dmk2 video. After seeing the clips I can appreciate their need to control such video capture, as it simply exceeds the quality any production crew is likely to produce. No HD handicam could of delivered in the low light. With a mic designed for such applications or separate sound recording the quality would exceed any concert footage I've seen.

I don't plan on ever posting the video but have shared it with friends who were not able to catch the show. However, if I were to post the video and the sound was better I would certainly understand their concern. As you can tell, I am very pleased with the camera's performance but would be disappointed if this performance results in the prevention of future usage of this camera during such events to take personal photos. Just about everyone has a phone or compact camera that takes video and at some point video will saturate the DSLR market. I understand their need to limit such high end video capture but it's ultimately a loosing battle.

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Tim Dolan Contributing Member • Posts: 678
Re: With or without, DSLRs are not permitted in Saddledome

Have they banned cell phones, mine has both still and video capability. Granted it is not good, but it has that capability and I may need my phone for some reason. Some of the phones are getting pretty good capability for video and stills - not as good, but good enough to make it dumb to ban DSLRs.

Flashes are a completely different story, but I note even my cell phone has a small flash.
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Victor Engel Forum Pro • Posts: 19,413
Re: Honestly...

Since when is Vincent L a video guru?

smatty wrote:

as much as I really like my 5DMKII, I find the Video function to be
very limited. If you put it on a tripod and shoot stationary or slow
moving scenes, it can do a very good job. Or if you are a video guru
(like Vincent L. etc) you can get some great results. But my €500 HD
camcorder would do a much better job at concerts or sports events
than the 25FPS, slow contrast focusing shallow DOF 5DMKII. And
probably a compact cameras (wich is often allowed to bring into those
events) with video mode might even get better results in those
situations....

Sometimes people who put a ban on something have too little knowledge
about the subject to differentiate

My 2c

Cheers,
Smatty

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/internationalphotos/

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neroangelo Contributing Member • Posts: 841
Re: Ban on dSLRs at events due to 5D2 video

Yeah I would just ask if DSLR's are allright to use in the crowd (wouldn't mention video).

Would hate to have to leave my precious gear in the tent!

planetMitch wrote:

you're welcome

of course the question becomes this - if you ask and they didn't know
it was possible in the first place, then are you screwed just because
you asked? LOL

of course, nobody wants to get stuck at an event with a camera that
is banned and then have to deal with it.

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Bastian09 Contributing Member • Posts: 521
Its a joke, but its not new. and not because of video.

You can bring a Canon G10 or latest PowerShot or even a Superzoom-Camera into a show without getting ask.

But if you bring a SLR or DSLR you are out.

The securities get told: "only the listed presspeople my bring big black cameras."
Thats it.

(And there are some bands like Witt, Sisters of Mercy, Moi dix Mois etc. which are extremly strict. No idea what they of to lose. Looks like they are not interessted in "free" publicitiy and freedom of press. )

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BadtzMaru Senior Member • Posts: 2,565
THere are tons of groups like that

I was a regular at a local venue in Chicago for about 2 years, there are lots of bands that prefer not to have DSLR's in the audience.

Its not always about 'free' so much as having control of 'stuff' Whether its a good or bad thing is mostly irrelevant as so long as its not a public venue its the artists and the venues right.

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