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canon 55-250 IS blur edge, anyone?

Started Jan 15, 2009 | Discussions
jongpl Junior Member • Posts: 39
canon 55-250 IS blur edge, anyone?

Hi, I have recently bought a canon 55-250mm IS, after reading all the comments on the internet, especially most people said that it outperform the sigma 70-300 APO.

I was having difficulties to get shots focus properly with the sigma on my 350D body. The canon does it slightly better but it doesn't always got the focus right like my kit lens or the 50mm 1.8. The biggest complain I had with the canon is the edge blur in the picture which is not so bad in the sigma pic, so I am wondering if there is anyone having same problem like mine? Or is my lens faulty?
I have some test on outdoor shooting, here are some:

canon 225mm f9 1/200s
full picture

center crop--quite sharp

edge crop

vertical crop(not 100%)

canon 154mm f8 1/400s
full crop

top crop

center crop--really sharp

sigma 168mm f5.6 1/400s
full crop

center crop--pretty sharp a well

edge crop

some more test at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jongks/

I did also notice that the canon @250mm is actually wider than sigma @238mm.
Thanks for viewing
KiamSoon

tkbslc Forum Pro • Posts: 17,523
Re: canon 55-250 IS blur edge, anyone?

I think you may have a decentered element or something. This does not look normal. You can tell you focused right because the bottom of the tree in the first shot is very sharp, but the top is blurry. At F9, we can't call that a focus error. I'd return it and try another.

I also don't think the Canon lens really outperforms the Sigma for sharpness or AF, it just has IS.

jonrobertp Forum Pro • Posts: 12,880
You get what u pay for or less. Usually.
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Re: You get what u pay for or less. Usually.

what an insightful comment jonrobertp!

Pvuong Regular Member • Posts: 342
Re: canon 55-250 IS blur edge, anyone?
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I have this Lens, it's pretty sharp.

Are you using a tripod, taking these pictures?

If you do, please don't forget to turn off the IS on the lens.

IS may caused the image not that sharp

Also taking a test picture on the solid object, like building.

I hope it helps!

pvuong

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OP jongpl Junior Member • Posts: 39
Re: canon 55-250 IS blur edge, anyone?

all the shoots are hand held. The edge blur normally happen when I focus to further object, within 20 feet is quite ok. And its worst at tele end.

OP jongpl Junior Member • Posts: 39
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Ya I notice that as well, unless I am having a bad copy of canon. But I like the canon color and contrast a bit more. Another thing is the sigma is brighter at the same aperture and speed, maybe 1/3-1/2 stop.

photonius Veteran Member • Posts: 6,895
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jongpl wrote:

all the shoots are hand held. The edge blur normally happen when I
focus to further object, within 20 feet is quite ok. And its worst at
tele end.

Two things, if it is hand-held, I presume IS is on. IS moves a lens element around, and it could possibly be at an extreme position at the moment it took the picture.

However, if this is the case, if you take several shots of the same scene, the effect should be different between shots.

Similarly, if you put the camera on a tripod, and shoot without IS, is the blurry edge also there, and always on the same side?

If yes, then you seem to have a decentered lens, and you should complain to Canon to get it exchanged or fixed.

So, first try to determine if it is a lens fault, i.e. test without IS, either on

tripod, with mirror-lock up (and self timer), on some distant buildings that are all in the same distance, or do hand-held when it is sunny, so you can shoot at 1/400 or faster. Also, take not of the aperture, try different apertures. open, f8, f11.
It should improve when you stop down, and at f8/f11, the lens

should be fine at the border. If it is bad at just one side, as I said, it's decentered.

see also tests:
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/411-canon_55250_456is_50d?start=1

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bill hansen Forum Pro • Posts: 10,033
get it repaired or replaced
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I don't have the 55-250, but the image you presented wouldn't be satisfactory to me. Based on the comments of others in this thread, if this were my lens I'd hope that the problem was a misaligned lens element. I'd send the lens back to Canon for repair or replacement. If you've just recently received the lens, maybe you could return it to the seller for replacement.

Either way, you should not have to put up with this much blurring at the edges of the image. The problem is not the image stabilizer, or the whole picture would be blurred.

Bill

OP jongpl Junior Member • Posts: 39
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It does improve a little when stop down but the edge blur still exist. Both left and right(top and bottom) are blur but the right side is more obvious.
Thanks for your suggestion anyway, I will try it again tomorrow.

maarensv
maarensv Senior Member • Posts: 1,106
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Hi,

I sent my dad's 55-250 to a Canon repair centre because of similar behaviour.
It was far worse than I noticed with your copy, not only borders were bad.
The IS element has been replaced and some calibration was done.
The lens now performs very well, even the corners are fairly good.

Despite of what some others write (like ; what you get is what you pay for...) the 55-250 is (at least when you have a decent copy) optically pretty good.

Your copy does not look very bad, but I've seen better, like my dad's.

Regards,
Sandor.

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maarensv Senior Member • Posts: 1,106
Re: canon 55-250 IS blur edge, anyone?

Forgot to say : take some pics with aperture closed to f11 or so.
A mislined lens or IS element will still show bad corners.
Usually corners will be better closed down two stops.
Also check if there is difference between corners left/right or top/bottem.

Regards.

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OP jongpl Junior Member • Posts: 39
Re: canon 55-250 IS blur edge, anyone?

Thanks Maarensv, at least I still have hope for the lens after reading your experience, actually I have a lot of miss focus shots, those pictures that I post are some of the better one with this lens. I did actually send to canon for check up once but they didn't find out any problem, maybe it was near christmas and they rush it out.

photonius Veteran Member • Posts: 6,895
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jongpl wrote:

Thanks Maarensv, at least I still have hope for the lens after
reading your experience, actually I have a lot of miss focus shots,
those pictures that I post are some of the better one with this lens.
I did actually send to canon for check up once but they didn't find
out any problem, maybe it was near christmas and they rush it out.

yes, have it check again. also what camera body? some focus better than others.

Here is a shot with my 55-250 IS:

http://photonius.wikispaces.com/file/view/Canon55250.JPG/33336189

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thien nguyen Senior Member • Posts: 1,369
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You were shooting at 225mm which is quite a large focal length.
This will give you shallow DOF even at f9.

According to the DOF calculator, on a crop body, say, at 20m away,
the DOF is less than 3 metres and only about 1.6m behind the focus
plane.

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jongpl wrote:

Hi, I have recently bought a canon 55-250mm IS, after reading all the
comments on the internet, especially most people said that it
outperform the sigma 70-300 APO.
I was having difficulties to get shots focus properly with the sigma
on my 350D body. The canon does it slightly better but it doesn't
always got the focus right like my kit lens or the 50mm 1.8. The
biggest complain I had with the canon is the edge blur in the picture
which is not so bad in the sigma pic, so I am wondering if there is
anyone having same problem like mine? Or is my lens faulty?
I have some test on outdoor shooting, here are some:

canon 225mm f9 1/200s
full picture

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tkbslc Forum Pro • Posts: 17,523
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thien nguyen wrote:

You were shooting at 225mm which is quite a large focal length.
This will give you shallow DOF even at f9.

According to the DOF calculator, on a crop body, say, at 20m away,
the DOF is less than 3 metres and only about 1.6m behind the focus
plane.

So you are implying that the tree is leaning? The top is more than 1.6m farther back than the front? I find that very unlikely.

thien nguyen Senior Member • Posts: 1,369
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Hi tkbslc,

You are standing on the ground, not same level with the middle of the tree. Also, you didn't focus on the tree, but
the leave at front.

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tkbslc wrote:

thien nguyen wrote:

You were shooting at 225mm which is quite a large focal length.
This will give you shallow DOF even at f9.

According to the DOF calculator, on a crop body, say, at 20m away,
the DOF is less than 3 metres and only about 1.6m behind the focus
plane.

So you are implying that the tree is leaning? The top is more than
1.6m farther back than the front? I find that very unlikely.

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photonius Veteran Member • Posts: 6,895
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tkbslc wrote:

thien nguyen wrote:

You were shooting at 225mm which is quite a large focal length.
This will give you shallow DOF even at f9.

According to the DOF calculator, on a crop body, say, at 20m away,
the DOF is less than 3 metres and only about 1.6m behind the focus
plane.

So you are implying that the tree is leaning? The top is more than
1.6m farther back than the front? I find that very unlikely.

well, just to be sure, one should shoot some house wall, holiding the lens straight.
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OP jongpl Junior Member • Posts: 39
Re: canon 55-250 IS blur edge, anyone?

I did try to shoot a flat roof and its seems ok even at 250mm with minor sharpness falloff at the edge. But I also got quite a lot of shots with the edge blur at wider angle, like the second sample that I have post the roof is blurer on the canon one, even the canon is shot with 154mm f8 and the sigma is shot at 168mm f5.6. I also notice that the right side(top) is more blur than the left side(bottom).

These is another comparison:

canon 84mm f10
center

top

full shot

sigma 86mm f8
center

top

full shot

This picture from sigma is sharp from center to any border even at f8

OP jongpl Junior Member • Posts: 39
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That seems to be quite sharp. I got a few sharp picture just like yours but most of the others have the blur edge problem, I did try to shoot a flat plane and it seems ok.

BTW I am using 350D which seems to be the problematic camera for this lens according to photozone. But I have read that many 350D users sell thier sigma for the canon and they are happy for it. Ya, I think I should send it back to canon.

Regards
Kiamsoon

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