G10 + Lensmate + Canon 2x Tele-Converter (TC-DC58C)

Yes, this works. The new Lensmate G10 adapter set will accommodate the Canon TC-DC58C 2x Tele-Converter.

I don't think you can do this with the Canon-made G10 adapter, as I think it's made to accommodate only the new 1.4x tele-converter TC-DC58D (although this is my understanding, I could be wrong about it).

The Lensmate G10 adapter comes in three parts, typically used as A+B or A+C.

If you couple the A+C Lensmate G10 adapter parts, the Canon 2x Tele-Converter attaches to it perfectly.

There is vignetting unless the G10 lens is zoomed almost fully out, but not at the farthest two telephoto steps -- so you can get a vignette-free 280mm telephoto from this combination. This is almost exactly the same functionality as with the G9, where you get vignetting at all but the farthest three steps of the zoom. (Of course, it won't zoom as far at the G9 with the 2x converter, but performs similarly to the G9 in terms of zoom steps that vignette or don't vignette.)

Nice photos, interesting info. I'm sure there will be many grateful G10 owners.

I'm staying with my G9 for now, largely because I'm afraid I'd miss the extra tele range of the G9 (even though I more often want the wider angle of the G10 - who am I kidding? I'm just jealous!)

Bill

bill hansen wrote:

Nice photos, interesting info. I'm sure there will be many grateful
G10 owners.

Except for those who owned the TC-DC58C converter with the G9, switched to a G10, and already got rid of the converter.

In that case, they might be a bit miffed. :-/

Al Ruscelli wrote:

Yes, this works. The new Lensmate G10 adapter set will accommodate
the Canon TC-DC58C 2x Tele-Converter.

Now what you have to do is take an image with the converter and then move closer to get the same framing without the converter and take a second image. Then compare the two images to see if any aberrations exist

I don't know why the Lensmate page on the Sigma DPI wide angle shots doesn't work anymore, but it was a very interesting page showing the same corner detail of an image using 10 different wide converters. The differences are pretty dramatic. I'd be interested in seeing if there's a reason Canon had to create a new converter.

Al Ruscelli wrote:

Except for those who owned the TC-DC58C converter with the G9,
switched to a G10, and already got rid of the converter.

In that case, they might be a bit miffed. :-/

Dianne W wrote:

That would be me!

Argh, sorry about that, Dianne.

But maybe there's something I'm not taking into account. It all seems very puzzling that no official entity has hinted at compatibility here. Canon certainly hasn't (not anywhere I've seen or read about it), and even on the Lensmate site the TC-DC58C 2x converter is not mentioned as one of the options, I don't think. So, I might be overlooking some obvious flaw in use here.

Graystar wrote:

Now what you have to do is take an image with the converter and then
move closer to get the same framing without the converter and take a
second image. Then compare the two images to see if any aberrations
exist

I don't know why the Lensmate page on the Sigma DPI wide angle shots
doesn't work anymore, but it was a very interesting page showing the
same corner detail of an image using 10 different wide converters.
The differences are pretty dramatic. I'd be interested in seeing if
there's a reason Canon had to create a new converter.

I tried a handful of test photos late last night, and the images looked pretty good to me, even at 100 percent. I didn't go so far as to test the same framing with and without the converter, but that's something I'll probably try to do (if I have the time today, that is).

Also...with tele-converter, we might not see the same kind or degree of corner detail aberrations that might be seen with a wide-angle converter (not that I've really played with these kinds of converters before -- this is pretty new territory for me).

Was the Lensmate comparison page anything like this page on the G9/G7 (and the "corner" images shown lower on the page)?

http://www.lensmateonline.com/newsite/G7tele.html

nolten wrote:

If you have time, could you take a test image and inspect it? There
may be focus issues that are not readily apparent. Probably if it
focuses and looks good on the display, you are good to go! Cheers.

I didn't have much to work with last night, but I did take this shot of a stack of CDs from about 10 feet away. The image is resized but not cropped...and it's a bit crooked, but looks pretty good in terms of image quality...and maybe shows enough to get an idea of how the adapter/converter combination does. Print quality on the back of CDs often leaves a lot to be desired (all these fonts vary wildly), so take that into account when viewing this. I'll try to do an outdoor photo today (if it stops raining long enough).

Al Ruscelli wrote:

Was the Lensmate comparison page anything like this page on the G9/G7
(and the "corner" images shown lower on the page)?

Yes. It just showed the corners. The differences were more dramatic than on the Canon page.

I cannot wait to get mine form Susan... am going to luv using this camera wiht my adapters
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http://www.me.com/gallery/#home

Jeez...this thread sets a new high for adapter-p0rn

I'd post pics of my custom A710 adapter, but who wants to see pics of old adapters?

Well...it seems as though the complexities associated with creating a good Lensmate adapter (or perhaps more appropriately, "adapter system") for the G10 were such that it far surpassed (in design concept and execution) the simpler single adapters of the past. A lot of questions were raised and speculations made about how the adapters would work, why they were set up as "multi-stage," how this affected wide versus telephoto photography, how the pieces and parts were supposed to work together, etc.

My main purpose for this thread was the discovery that one could indeed couple the old 2x converter with the new Lensmate adapter, which came as a big surprise to me. Again, I still might not be recognizing some obvious flaw in the use of the old 2x converter with the new adapters, but it seemingly works just fine (with only minor limitations that mirror the limitations of the adapters/converters used with the G9).

Ben Hermann started a related thread, but I didn't want the tele-converter aspect of this to be lost in his A+B Lensmate adapter thread, so I started a new one. Unfortunately, that also gave me an excuse to post more photos of the rest of the adapter parts....so I did.

You're welcome, nolten...I'm glad you're finding the info useful. Hopefully, everything will work out on your end in terms of the bayonet mount and matching threading for the converters (I'm assuming it will with no problems, but I'm doing a lot of guessing with that).

I also think you're on the right track with considering two of the part A adapters, which will make switches quick and easy, with a lot less screwing/unscrewing of the actual converters and filters (a bit of a time-consuming and somewhat cumbersome pain).

These adapter/filter/converter combinations certainly do open up some interesting possibilities for expanding what the basic camera can do.

Actually, I'm just glad I had the 2x converter available to experiment with.

I get the sneaking suspicion that no-one really wanted owners/users to know this was an option...

I'm sort of waiting for someone to come up with a statement of, "You know, you really shouldn't be doing this because (fill in reason here)."

nolten wrote:

Oh, BTW good taste in music too

Ha! Thanks...

For about half of my music, I tend get a lot of "Who's that you're listening to?" followed by "Never heard of them."

"Silver Tongued Devil" is available in that new-fangled format?