Poster prints such as Roman Johnston's

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Ray A Regular Member • Posts: 311
Poster prints such as Roman Johnston's

I've been playing around with adding borders. Looking at Roman's posters on his Pbase site I see that he sells his prints at 2x3 sizes. (20x30, 30x45 etc.).

I cannot grasp how this is done. If you take a 2x3 file and add a border such as Roman's it no longer equals 2x3. It looks to me like the picture must be cropped to compensate for the border.

Could someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks
Ray

RomanJohnston
RomanJohnston Forum Pro • Posts: 18,806
Your compass has arrived....

Simple answer, my prints do not include the border.

Its only for the web presentation.

The proper matting and framing make for the proper border in print.

Here is what I mean....

Hope this helps!!

: )

Roman
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'Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who are we to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous.

Actually, who are we not to be?'

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ink0gnito Senior Member • Posts: 1,373
Sharpening

Not to hijack this thread... but Roman, do you use special sharpening techniques for sure huge prints? Web & print sharpening differ, so I wonder how much sharpening do you apply?

VadimOm Senior Member • Posts: 1,903
Re: Your compass has arrived....

should have asked that lady to either step out of the shot or look at your work

that tree picture of yours is truly amazing!

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RomanJohnston
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If you shoot me an e-mail....

I will e-mail you a wonderful Don Margulis sharpening action that was presented to me by one of the Borg's a while back....really great.

Roman
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'Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who are we to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous.

Actually, who are we not to be?'

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ink0gnito Senior Member • Posts: 1,373
Is it...
RomanJohnston
RomanJohnston Forum Pro • Posts: 18,806
That be the one!!!

Roman
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'Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who are we to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous.

Actually, who are we not to be?'

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ink0gnito Senior Member • Posts: 1,373
So it works equally great...

for screen AND print? since I never printed my shots, I read somewhere that if it looks oversharpened on screen it is perfect for print.

http://www.pixelgenius.com/sharpener/ has settings for print but I haven't tried it yet.

Ray A OP Regular Member • Posts: 311
Re: Your compass has arrived....

Thank you Roman.

You and Ronnie Gaubert are my favorites.

Ray

Kim Letkeman
Kim Letkeman Forum Pro • Posts: 33,409
Re: So it works equally great...

ink0gnito wrote:

for screen AND print? since I never printed my shots, I read
somewhere that if it looks oversharpened on screen it is perfect for
print.

http://www.pixelgenius.com/sharpener/ has settings for print but I
haven't tried it yet.

PKSharpener has specific output sharpening automations for web, contone (e.g. fuji frontier at costco), halftone and inkjet. There are many grades in some of them as well, tuned to specific sizes, matt versus glossy, etc ...

It's all discussed at length in Bruce Fraser's book.

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VictorDB Regular Member • Posts: 358
Ditto on that Roman

I haven't even begun to chip away at the functions on my 5 day old D300 but I think here's another stop to make.

How does Roman do his beautiful prints?

Incidentally, the Sigma 10-20 works great, I haven't quite gotten used to controlling the focus points as almost all my work with my F5 for the last 10 years has been with Manual focus lenses.

The 17mm 3.5 now acts as a 25.5mm lens which is quite nice (and rather lightweight compared to the surprising bulbous Sigma).

I will when I have learnt more come to you Roman for a Masterclass, meanwhile onward with basics.

Regards

Victor

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Gokce YILDIRIM Regular Member • Posts: 277
Re: Your compass has arrived....

Hi Roman,

What size is the picture on top left ? Can u tell me just briefly what is your workflow to get those print sizes if you are printing yourself ?

RomanJohnston wrote:

Simple answer, my prints do not include the border.

Its only for the web presentation.

The proper matting and framing make for the proper border in print.

Here is what I mean....

Hope this helps!!

: )

Roman
--
'Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is
that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our
darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who are we to be
brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous.

Actually, who are we not to be?'

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RomanJohnston
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Ok...what I do

Note: I process in ACR as 25.1MP not the native 12MP. After PP the shot, I uprez simpally by resizing to 30" x 45" at 240PPI....that simple...I then have my largest print ready to go.

I run the routine....usually the first one I bring down from 500 down to about 300-400 depending on the subject. and the next stoppig point is tweaked to taste...

Then after it is run, I select the top layer (not the layer mask) and do a smart sharpening at 60 and .6 And the check box checked at the bottom....it just makes it kinda krunchy....perfect for printing.

I take the shot and shrink it down to web size (I do about 150PPI and 800x531 for normal aspect ratio shots) and do a smart sharpen with same figures above, but the first figure throttled dow to about 25 or 30 (instead of 60)

Thats about it.

Roman
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'Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who are we to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous.

Actually, who are we not to be?'

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RomanJohnston
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Re: Your compass has arrived....

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1039&message=29900186

that print is 30x45

I can print with a well taken/rpocessed shot confortably up to 40x60

Roman
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'Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who are we to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous.

Actually, who are we not to be?'

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Wayne Cranston Regular Member • Posts: 260
An additional question (or two)...

On those prints is the white border a real mat or a white border done in PS & just printed on the paper?

Do you print yourself or send out (and who do you use?)

Thanks - Wayne

PS - you are truly an excellent photographer. If you ever decide to do a workshop, sign me up

Gokce YILDIRIM Regular Member • Posts: 277
Re: Ok...what I do

tks for the swift reply Roman..

I immediately tried opening my images at 25.1MP in ACR and the result was quite good. Image still looked good without the effects of upsizing. And then from there I could still upsize a little.

But... I don't use ACR. I process images in NX, and when I tried to first resize in NX, it is not successful doing it as good as ACR.

So I guess if I stick to NX workflow, 45x60 is not quite possible...

RomanJohnston wrote:

Note: I process in ACR as 25.1MP not the native 12MP. After PP the
shot, I uprez simpally by resizing to 30" x 45" at 240PPI....that
simple...I then have my largest print ready to go.

I run the routine....usually the first one I bring down from 500 down
to about 300-400 depending on the subject. and the next stoppig point
is tweaked to taste...

Then after it is run, I select the top layer (not the layer mask) and
do a smart sharpening at 60 and .6 And the check box checked at the
bottom....it just makes it kinda krunchy....perfect for printing.

I take the shot and shrink it down to web size (I do about 150PPI and
800x531 for normal aspect ratio shots) and do a smart sharpen with
same figures above, but the first figure throttled dow to about 25 or
30 (instead of 60)

Thats about it.

Roman
--
'Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is
that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our
darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who are we to be
brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous.

Actually, who are we not to be?'

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Kim Letkeman
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Re: Ok...what I do

Gokce YILDIRIM wrote:

tks for the swift reply Roman..

I immediately tried opening my images at 25.1MP in ACR and the result
was quite good. Image still looked good without the effects of
upsizing. And then from there I could still upsize a little.

But... I don't use ACR. I process images in NX, and when I tried to
first resize in NX, it is not successful doing it as good as ACR.

So I guess if I stick to NX workflow, 45x60 is not quite possible...

Sure it is ... after processing, save in whatever intermediate format you like ... low compression jpeg or tiff. Load into CSx and interpolate using bicubic smoother (Scott kelby suggests also try bicubic sharper, which sometimes does a terrific job) and sharpen to taste.

Note that I prefer the stair step method (upsize in steps of 10%) but that can take a long time. The upsizing plugin on Digital Outback Photo, which implemented this algorithm and was free, seems to have been removed. That is most unfortunate.

You can test the output at home by cropping an 8x10 equivalent area and printing that on your inkjet.

Also, you can always try QImage ... many swear by its output at large sizes.

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RomanJohnston
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Wayne

Wayne Cranston wrote:

On those prints is the white border a real mat or a white border done
in PS & just printed on the paper?

It is a true mat.

Do you print yourself or send out (and who do you use?)

Well, I work very closely with TIS Graphics downtown here in the Portland area.

Thanks - Wayne

PS - you are truly an excellent photographer. If you ever decide to
do a workshop, sign me up

Keep an eye out...new web site coming, as well as potential for some workshops.

Roman

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Actually, who are we not to be?'

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DC Akowua Regular Member • Posts: 191
Re: Your compass has arrived....

Forgive me guys but, where is the original post with over a hundred replies.
I searched but could not find it.

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Don Karner Senior Member • Posts: 1,166
Re: Wayne

Roman

I've always pondered what the outside dimensions are on your large prints.

This is something I've always wrestled with. How much mat etc?

I make 18 x 28 prints in a 24 x 36 frame. Could you share how large the frame is for your 30 x 45s?

Thanks for any advice here.
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