pbase down again

Started Oct 20, 2008 | Discussions
Tim in upstate NY
Tim in upstate NY Veteran Member • Posts: 7,120
pbase down again

I've been a loyal supporter and subscriber for a long time but this is getting ridiculous. Yesterday, it took me three attempts to upload a 65 image zip file and now this morning pbase is down completely. If this keeps up, I might actually start thinking the unthinkable and jump ship. Don't know where to just yet but there are plenty of other hosting services these days.

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Doug J Veteran Member • Posts: 9,851
It's been like a yoyo lately

Slug is a victim of his own success.

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Best regards,
Doug
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Isola Verde
Isola Verde Veteran Member • Posts: 8,918
It's now limping back into service

Doug J wrote:

Slug is a victim of his own success.

Doug,

You're a loyal defender and a true friend of PBase but by now even you must be beginning to realise that what actually happens at PBase is a whole load of inertia.

Every year or 18 months they completely fail to see that their 'success' will require them to provide more storage, bandwidth etc, and we have to ensure these repeated peiods of appalling service before they recognise and address the problem each time. Or am I wrong?

Thank heavens they've such a proactive and helpful management and customer service team!

Peter

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RoscoT Senior Member • Posts: 2,943
They Are Back Up [nt]
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Doug J Veteran Member • Posts: 9,851
Re: It's now limping back into service

Hi Peter - I have no real disagreement with what you say, although I defend Slug & company less and less these days. I think you're right about the cyclical problems and their approach to solving them - wait until the shoes no longer fit then quickly look for a new pair. That might be tolerable if the service level doesn't decline much, for too long.

The current pervasive problem of slow speed experienced by a lot of users is more serious IMO, it's gone on too long. As I posted in their forum, I haven't experienced the problem, and there are a few other users that have commented along the same lines. However there are many more users that post about slow access speed or lack of access at times, and clearly this is not good at all.

You've been there for 4 years, it's 6 years for me, and we've both lived through good times and not so good. Here's to the good times and I hope they prevail.

Isola Verde wrote:

Doug J wrote:

Slug is a victim of his own success.

Doug,

You're a loyal defender and a true friend of PBase but by now even
you must be beginning to realise that what actually happens at PBase
is a whole load of inertia.

Every year or 18 months they completely fail to see that their
'success' will require them to provide more storage, bandwidth etc,
and we have to ensure these repeated peiods of appalling service
before they recognise and address the problem each time. Or am I
wrong?

Thank heavens they've such a proactive and helpful management and
customer service team!

LOL, and it's not even April 1st....

Peter

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Best regards,
Doug
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borderrose Veteran Member • Posts: 3,237
They run pbase like it is a hobby (nt)
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Isola Verde
Isola Verde Veteran Member • Posts: 8,918
Re: It's now limping back into service

Doug J wrote:

Hi Peter - I have no real disagreement with what you say, although I
defend Slug & company less and less these days. I think you're right
about the cyclical problems and their approach to solving them - wait
until the shoes no longer fit then quickly look for a new pair. That
might be tolerable if the service level doesn't decline much, for too
long.

The current pervasive problem of slow speed experienced by a lot of
users is more serious IMO, it's gone on too long. As I posted in
their forum, I haven't experienced the problem, and there are a few
other users that have commented along the same lines. However there
are many more users that post about slow access speed or lack of
access at times, and clearly this is not good at all.

You've been there for 4 years, it's 6 years for me, and we've both
lived through good times and not so good. Here's to the good times
and I hope they prevail.

Doug, I can only agree with all you've said.

Irrespective of price (and I'd be OK with paying double) and even if I could magically slide across without any moving problems, there's still no other site I'd rather be on - so I'm most definitely with you in that hope!

Peter

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borisboomboom Senior Member • Posts: 2,466
back in the days...

i remember this erratic up and down from pbase.

i've NEVER experienced this with flickr. glad i switched.

Soenda Senior Member • Posts: 2,457
And Back Down Again...For Repairs?

Service seems to be down again. Couldn't this be interpreted as the process Slug and staff are going through to address the difficulties? The sudden "things get worse before they get better?"

Wasn't hardware added just last winter to try to get past the capacity problem? Things stayed pretty good for me up until the past 24 hours or so. Whatever was done must have turned out to be either faulty or insufficient.

What I see happening of late is that frustrated users let their tempers get away with them. They start making inappropriate, personalized attacks on the Pbase staff, who have little or no recourse as they struggle at their end. It can quickly deteriorate into a very toxic situation.

My concern is that a Microsoft or Yahoo sees vulnerability, then makes an offer Slug decides not to refuse. Then, surprise! We're all on Flickr.

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TuckerUK Senior Member • Posts: 1,812
Re: back in the days...

Right, but FlickR is so AmWay! I think FlickR is for those souls who think social networking sites are cool. I don't care how reliable a service is if it's a service I don't want. Hopefully, and as usual, the PBase hiccup will be just that, a hiccup.

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Geoff

The answer to the oft repeated banal question of whether the glass is half full or half empty, simply and obviously depends on whether one is filling or emptying it.

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Tim in upstate NY
OP Tim in upstate NY Veteran Member • Posts: 7,120
Re: It's now limped back OUT of service again

. . . I'm trying to be patient with this situation. What about an email explanation from pbase? Are we just supposed to keep hoping that all will be well again? And when?

. . . . I've been looking into Zenfolio today and I like what I see so far. However, their migration software apparently doesn't support pbase files but I'm about to email an Alexander who owns the migration program to get the final word on that. If he can help me, it might be 'so long pbase' !

Isola Verde wrote:

Doug J wrote:

Hi Peter - I have no real disagreement with what you say, although I
defend Slug & company less and less these days. I think you're right
about the cyclical problems and their approach to solving them - wait
until the shoes no longer fit then quickly look for a new pair. That
might be tolerable if the service level doesn't decline much, for too
long.

The current pervasive problem of slow speed experienced by a lot of
users is more serious IMO, it's gone on too long. As I posted in
their forum, I haven't experienced the problem, and there are a few
other users that have commented along the same lines. However there
are many more users that post about slow access speed or lack of
access at times, and clearly this is not good at all.

You've been there for 4 years, it's 6 years for me, and we've both
lived through good times and not so good. Here's to the good times
and I hope they prevail.

Doug, I can only agree with all you've said.

Irrespective of price (and I'd be OK with paying double) and even if
I could magically slide across without any moving problems, there's
still no other site I'd rather be on - so I'm most definitely with
you in that hope!

Peter

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Tony Sx Senior Member • Posts: 2,157
Re: It's now limped back OUT of service again

Tim in upstate NY wrote:

. . . I'm trying to be patient with this situation. What about an
email explanation from pbase? Are we just supposed to keep hoping
that all will be well again? And when?

Right now I can't get at anything in Pbase, so even if they did post an explanation....

. . . . I've been looking into Zenfolio today and I like what I see
so far.

When Pbase had all that downtime about 10 months ago I jumped to Zenfolio and haven't regretted it. One interesting thing with Zenfolio is that if you try it out, you get the full professional package - so you can upload any size images... If you then elect for the 'basic' package - max 12 meg image size - the images you uploaded during the test don't disappear nor are they reduced in any way.

Isabel Cutler Forum Pro • Posts: 11,174
While I don't like the white background and navigation as much....

I started using my inactive Flickr account a couple of weeks ago after I had visited the site several times after I had searched a subject on Google and been sent a link to a Flickr forum. I got some good help there.

I also have a couple of friends in Australia who use it regularly.

I think discovered the amazing Flickr uploader which I have parked on my desk. I can use it to VERY QUICKLY transfer a number of pictures along with their descriptions, change names, tag and organize into sets - all before even uploading.

I get emailed notices when someone comments on a picture.

I can view my images in an almost full-screen black background slideshow. There are third party applications which you can use to link to a single image on a black background.

Everything about Flickr is FAST. It didn't take me long to forget about griping about the white background and interface annoyances.

And...by the way...the EXIF information tells whether or not flash is used, unlike pBase which hasn't got that right for a few years!

Am I ticked about pBase? You bet!

Isabel
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borisboomboom Senior Member • Posts: 2,466
Re: back in the days...

flickr can be "high-schoolish" or it can be "high-art". depends on how you set it up, where you frequent, and how you utilize its myriad features.

TuckerUK wrote:

Right, but FlickR is so AmWay! I think FlickR is for those souls who
think social networking sites are cool. I don't care how reliable a
service is if it's a service I don't want. Hopefully, and as usual,
the PBase hiccup will be just that, a hiccup.

you can hope, but don't hold your breath. i did for years, but no more.

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Geoff

The answer to the oft repeated banal question of whether the glass is
half full or half empty, simply and obviously depends on whether one
is filling or emptying it.

http://www.pbase.com/tuckeruk
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borisboomboom Senior Member • Posts: 2,466
Re: While I don't like the white background and navigation as much....

Isabel Cutler wrote:

I started using my inactive Flickr account a couple of weeks ago
after I had visited the site several times after I had searched a
subject on Google and been sent a link to a Flickr forum. I got some
good help there.

yep...strength in numbers.

I also have a couple of friends in Australia who use it regularly.

I think discovered the amazing Flickr uploader which I have parked on
my desk. I can use it to VERY QUICKLY transfer a number of pictures
along with their descriptions, change names, tag and organize into
sets - all before even uploading.

I get emailed notices when someone comments on a picture.

all great features.

I can view my images in an almost full-screen black background
slideshow. There are third party applications which you can use to
link to a single image on a black background.

yes...the slideshow rocks.

Everything about Flickr is FAST. It didn't take me long to forget
about griping about the white background and interface annoyances.

And...by the way...the EXIF information tells whether or not flash is
used, unlike pBase which hasn't got that right for a few years!

Am I ticked about pBase? You bet!

Isabel
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'There are no rules for good photographs; there are only good
photographs.' Ansel Adams
http://www.pbase.com/isabel95
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipets/ (not only for pet
photography!)
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/98292634@N00

Soenda Senior Member • Posts: 2,457
Re: While I don't like the white background and navigation as much....

Isabel Cutler wrote:

I started using my inactive Flickr account a couple of weeks ago
after I had visited the site several times after I had searched a
subject on Google and been sent a link to a Flickr forum. I got some
good help there.

I also have a couple of friends in Australia who use it regularly.

I think discovered the amazing Flickr uploader which I have parked on
my desk. I can use it to VERY QUICKLY transfer a number of pictures
along with their descriptions, change names, tag and organize into
sets - all before even uploading.

I get emailed notices when someone comments on a picture.

I can view my images in an almost full-screen black background
slideshow. There are third party applications which you can use to
link to a single image on a black background.

Everything about Flickr is FAST. It didn't take me long to forget
about griping about the white background and interface annoyances.

And...by the way...the EXIF information tells whether or not flash is
used, unlike pBase which hasn't got that right for a few years!

Am I ticked about pBase? You bet!

Isabel

I'm glad to know about those things, especially the black background, because I had found Flickr's look to be very cheesy.

There is another concern, however. That has to do with copyrights and agreements to allow free use of some of Flickr members' photos. Apparently over the summer it came out that a third party had applied that flexibility to the use of all Flickr members' work. I don't know whether safeguards have been put into place, but it does give me pause. http://johnlabovitz.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/how-flickr-could-make-the-world-a-better-place-for-copyright/

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Tim in upstate NY
OP Tim in upstate NY Veteran Member • Posts: 7,120
Re: pbase down again - update

Still down this morning. Was up for awhile late last night but loading very slow.

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Tim in upstate NY
OP Tim in upstate NY Veteran Member • Posts: 7,120
this is nuts

It timed out the first three times I tried to open my most recent gallery and then just as I was posting the previous 'update', the avatar below appeared indicating that pbase was suddenly back up again.

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Soenda Senior Member • Posts: 2,457
Re: this is nuts

Nuts and strange. I've been able to navigate freely through the night. Can it be as simple as that some of us are assigned to different servers? I'm baffled.
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Weldon Wilson Forum Member • Posts: 87
Re: pbase down again

I did find this in the forums on pBase:

In the pbase forums, one of the admins says that they are having networking issues.--
Weldon

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