Looks like the PC is better than the MAC for photoshop

[wildfoto]

Macintosh users are communists!

 

[ianR]

It wasn't a question of who supported what it was a question of it being available.

Adobe didn't produce a version for the Mac same as they haven't produced a version of Elements 6 for the mac until recently. Market forces seem to be prevail

I agree, Windows is better served for graphics at least these days, but Vista has hardly been a success and it's just wrong to suggest that the Mac doesn't support 64bit. Lots of Drivers don't work on Vista and that's just a simple fact.

I have both systems and I see advantages and disadvantages in both. I don't get why people are so blinkered about that.
Ian

I'm not really sure why you say that. Leopard is already 64 bit and the drivers work

...must be why Vista supported CS3 way sooner than Leopard
did......all those superior Apple drivers.

 

[CS Gordon]

It wasn't a question of who supported what it was a question of it
being available.

You need to re-read that cnet article, particularly the section "What derailed the 64-bit train?". Adobe has made it very clear it is an issue of support from Apple. The only thing unavailable are the APIs. Besides, 64-bit versions of Windows aren't exactly popular (yet) and software is still being developed.

Adobe didn't produce a version for the Mac same as they haven't
produced a version of Elements 6 for the mac until recently. Market
forces seem to be prevail

See above.

I agree, Windows is better served for graphics at least these days,
but Vista has hardly been a success and it's just wrong to suggest
that the Mac doesn't support 64bit.

I'm not suggesting that the Mac OSX does not support some 64-bit implementations. However, enough APIs are not 64-bit to make this an issue for Adobe.

Apple has went about a very different approach than Microsoft in building an x86 64-bit platform. For example, allowing 32-bit drivers to be installed and not providing a full API implementation in 64-bit.

Lots of Drivers don't work on
Vista and that's just a simple fact.

That might have been true a year ago but alot changes in a year. Microsoft took a very different approach by only allowing 64-bit drivers to be installed on 64-bit versions of Windows. Developers have been slow building drivers on a platform with less users, but I think lack of experience on the part of vendors didn't help either.

Apple chose to allow 32-bit drivers mainly from a compatibility standard. It's appearing to be more of a hybrid OS, much like Windows 95/98/Me. Granted, mixing 16/32 is a bigger pain in the butt than 32/64. In the end, though, I think Microsoft made the right decision going for a full 64-bit implementation. Yes, there will be more headaches in the beginning but it'll pay off in the end.

 

[Mark Smith145430]

In 64-bit MS are ahead of Apple; so it's only natural that Apple want
to cross over.....gulp!....to the hated MS/Intel offerings.

Well Apple has had a 64bit capable OS for many years, in fact OS X is 32/64 there is no need for a separate OS if you want to run 64bit Apps.

The reason the next PS will not come out 64 bit to Apple is that Photoshop uses the 32bit 1990's Carbon API, Apple meanwhile are building their new Apps in Cocoa which is 32/64 and won't update their 1990's API to 64bit.
http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/04/03/adobe.delays.64.bit.cs4/
So its not Apple that are dragging their feet...
Mark
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http://www.photo-utopia.blogspot.com/

 

[Mark Smith145430]

Mark Smith wrote:
here's why

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/06/13/64-bit-support-in-leopard-no-carbon-love
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http://www.photo-utopia.blogspot.com/

 

[tigger183234]

So its not Apple that are dragging their feet...

It is not Adobe that are dragging their feet, either.

If building an application from scratch, most people will choose Cocoa, as this is mostly the easier way. But if you have millions of lines of code already in Carbon, this is a lot of work to do to port that code, and there just was no benefit in doing so for the end user, until now that 64bit will only be available for Cocoa

It wouldn't have made any difference if CS3 would have been a Cocoa or a Carbon app. It wouldn't make it any faster. It wouldn't make it any prettier.

Both apis are just tools to get the job done. Some things might be easier to do in one api, others might be easier in the other.