Opening Sam J Stern fanclub (4 images)

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ottoben Junior Member • Posts: 30
Opening Sam J Stern fanclub (4 images)

Of course I´m just kidding, but I wanted to thank Sam J Stern for his advices which settings to use with a D300.

Following his valuable advices from this thread
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1039&message=26190407
I finally get the skintones I want.

Following another advice from this thread
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1039&message=27730299
I finally get my outdoor-with-fill-flash-pictures how I want them.

The first sample is a studio shot, the other three are outdoors. Shot in RAW, converted with Capture NX, cropped & resized for the web, no other PP at all.

Studio with D300, 2 Studio flashes, 85/1.8 Nikkor, Sam´s Skintone Settings

Outdoors with D300, 1xSB-800, 1x SB-600, 17-55/2.8, Sam´s Skintone and Sam´s Outdoor Fill Flash Settings

Thank you again, Sam, and thank you all for looking.
ben

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anthony718 Senior Member • Posts: 1,208
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looks good, im going to try his settings out this weekend as a matter of fact!
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Rolls17 New Member • Posts: 22
Re: Opening Sam J Stern fanclub (4 images)

Nice shots, I'd say 3 is my favorite, the color and everything looks great in all of them, but I like the composition of 3 most. I'll have to check out the setting advice you gave links too.

Royce

RomanJohnston
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Yeah...hes a pretty helpful guy!!!!

That Sam guy is a pretty good guy to keep around. : )

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msjhaffey Senior Member • Posts: 1,569
Re: Opening Sam J Stern fanclub (4 images)

I love the 2nd, 3rd and 4th pictures but I have a problem. I am new to the D300 and new to DSLR and I am having trouble in interpreting the jargon. Is it possible to take one of these pics (e.g. the last one) and tell me step by step what you did to get that lovely soft light and perfect tones?

I'd be forever in your debt (ie you won't get paid!)

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OP ottoben Junior Member • Posts: 30
Sean...

The outdoors where shot under a large tree, the sun coming from the right side behind me. The model was in the shadow of the tree, only a few spots of sunlight came through.

D300 was in manual mode. I metered the background of the scene in matrix mode, stopped down a bit, and adjusted the strength of each flash step by step so that the exposure was right for the girl. Just read Sams advice and follow it. Very easy to do.

The tones are coming from Sams second advice; just set your D300 like Sam suggests, and you will get perfect skin tones.

Have fun,
Ben

msjhaffey Senior Member • Posts: 1,569
Thank you

I'll give it a try this weekend.

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JeffCole Senior Member • Posts: 1,423
Re: Thank you

I like all of them with #3 and 4 being my favorites. Very pretty model also. One question, what is laying on the bagel on the third shot? I know it must be a sausage or something but at first glance it looks like something else. Nice work.... Jeff
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OP ottoben Junior Member • Posts: 30
Jeff...

...this is not a bagel but a Bavarian Breze which looks like this

Maybe you should come to the Oktoberfest this year to see for yourself.

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JeffCole Senior Member • Posts: 1,423
Re: Jeff...

ottoben wrote:

...this is not a bagel but a Bavarian Breze which looks like this

Thanks, I couldn't see the bottom half that was covered by the flowers.

Maybe you should come to the Oktoberfest this year to see for yourself.

I've been thinking of a trip to Germany and may do so next year. The dollar is so weak compared to the Euro right now that I can't afford a trip at this time. The Autobahn, beer and pretty girls. Wish I was there right now....... gotta stop thinking about it.
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samjstern
samjstern Veteran Member • Posts: 7,010
Well , Ben,.....

if all the girls in Germany are that pretty I may have to come over for a vacation.

Great job, pretty girl and much appreciated compliments.

Here is one from last weekend. It was an engagement shoot

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Arguna Regular Member • Posts: 221
Re: Yeah...hes a pretty helpful guy!!!!

He is helpful

Ray Soares Veteran Member • Posts: 3,121
Re: I'm also do like to thank Sam

He was the first to discover the benefits of using NEUTRAL settings.
IMHO , nobody "invented" better options for skin tones and real colors.
W/ some tweaks I use his settings for almost everything that breath...
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MagicNikon Veteran Member • Posts: 5,445
Re: Opening Sam J Stern fanclub (4 images)

He sure is helpful.. Many "thanks" to SJS!
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NikonianConvert Regular Member • Posts: 166
Superb flash photos

and superb models too

msjhaffey Senior Member • Posts: 1,569
So I had a go this evening. CC

My wife had just got home from work. I rushed her out into the garden and this is the first photo I took. I think it's also the best flash photo I've taken. I know I can get better but I am delighted with how this has worked first time. CC welcome.

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samjstern
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Well, Sean...

you nailed that picture.
Excellent.
In case you want the original post or part of it , here it is.

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Advanced Outdoor Fill Flash Method

Now here is what many pros do in a bright
background subject in shade shoot.

It is a bit more advanced but gives always repeatable results.

1. Camera in metering mode of matrix

2. Manual mode on camera.

3. Meter off the bright background and close 1 or more stops. This is 3 or 4 clicks to the right on the metering scale in the viewfinder.
4. Use TTL BL flash setting.

5. I start with flash comp at 0 and work from there. I add or subtract fill light by using the rocker switch on the back of the SB-800/600

6. I find that when I use this method I never blow out the bright backgrounds and get better fill flash look.

7. Some like to use TTL mode on the flash instead of TTL/BL. If you do begin with about –1.7 on the flash comp on the back of the flash. TTL mode gives off more light.

8. I personally like TTL/BL mode and begin with flash comp of 0 and add or subtract from there. I find it works excellent with the D300/ SB-800 combination.

9. Use white balance of "flash”. This usually
gives a nice look.

Sam D300/SB800/600 1/08

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samjstern
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Sean, one more thing

if it is not so bright in the background I only stop down maybee 1 or 2 clicks.
The brighter it gets I stop down more.
On a really bright sunny day in the background 1 stop down a stop or even more.
I take a shot without the flash on and look at the pictue on the LCD.
If the background is blown I stop down more.
If you wonder how I can see the LCD outdoors I use a Hoodman Loupe.

http://www.hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1017

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