SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

Started Jan 28, 2008 | Discussions
mufutau55 Senior Member • Posts: 1,138
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

Thanks Donna. I shall be expecting to hear about the test with Alien Bees.

Mufutau

Donna K wrote:

Thank you for the link. How well do they work with studio strobes
like Alien Bees, Interfit, etc.? I need to use them with combination
of studio strobes and flashes.
Mufutau

They should work with studio strobes, as well as flashes. I'll try
them tomorrow with my Alien Bees.

Donna K

derknipser Regular Member • Posts: 301
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

Donna K wrote:

I have two Canon 580 EX's and connected them to the shoe mount of the
Flashwave receivers- no cords. I put my Canon 430 EX on a Wein hot
shoe slave. All flashes were set to manual. I had the Flashwave
transmitter in the hot shoe of my Canon 5D - no cords. I set the
shutter speed of my Canon below 200 and fired away. Every thing
worked as expected.

I think the on/off switches are a little awkward to turn on/off. but
other than that, I like them !

Donna K

Thanks a lot, Donna. Sound very good.

Mario

Donna K Contributing Member • Posts: 879
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

Thanks Donna. I shall be expecting to hear about the test with Alien Bees.

Mufutau

I briefly tested the Flashwaves with an Alien Bee 400 and it worked. The required cord is included with the Flashwave transmitter.

Make sure you have your channels set correctly. I thought I had mine set already but one of them got turned and it took me a few frustrating minutes to figure it out.

Donna K

mufutau55 Senior Member • Posts: 1,138
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

Good work Donna K. Very much appreciated.. Now that I know the work, time to go snatch a Transmitter and 3 Receivers. I wish they were Tranceivers ala PW.
Thanks.

Mufutau

Donna K wrote:

Thanks Donna. I shall be expecting to hear about the test with Alien
Bees.

Mufutau

I briefly tested the Flashwaves with an Alien Bee 400 and it worked.
The required cord is included with the Flashwave transmitter.

Make sure you have your channels set correctly. I thought I had mine
set already but one of them got turned and it took me a few
frustrating minutes to figure it out.

Donna K

egarrard Senior Member • Posts: 1,644
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

egarrard wrote:

Today isn't Sunday yet.

Bummer! The sanctuary was in use all morning. I couldn't test the FlashWaves. I'll try to get over and do that one day this week. With preparing for the eclipse on Wednesday evening, I might be delayed a little on the test this week. Sorry.

derknipser Regular Member • Posts: 301
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

Still got my Flashwaves today – and I love them!!!

First quick test: Works perfect with all of my flashes (Canon 580 EX, 580 EXII and 430 EX!!!!, Nikon SB-800, SB-80DX and SB-26). No misfiring, not when connected with cable, even in hotshoe.

Didn't make a distance test.

Smaller than my Pocket Wizards an much more reliable than my old chinese poverty wizards (ebay triggers). My ebay triggers work well with Nikon flashes, but don't with Canon flashes (misfiring).

Flashwaves do the job very well with both systems!

Mario

Clem Nichols Contributing Member • Posts: 815
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

derknipser wrote:

Still got my Flashwaves today – and I love them!!!

First quick test: Works perfect with all of my flashes (Canon 580 EX,
580 EXII and 430 EX!!!!, Nikon SB-800, SB-80DX and SB-26). No
misfiring, not when connected with cable, even in hotshoe.

Didn't make a distance test.

Smaller than my Pocket Wizards an much more reliable than my old
chinese poverty wizards (ebay triggers). My ebay triggers work well
with Nikon flashes, but don't with Canon flashes (misfiring).

Flashwaves do the job very well with both systems!

Mario

Is it safe to assume that you wear both a belt and suspenders? With Pocket Wizards, "poverty" wizards and flashwaves you should be pretty well covered (at least till the Radio Poppers come on the market)

CN

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CN

derknipser Regular Member • Posts: 301
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

Clem Nichols wrote:

Is it safe to assume that you wear both a belt and suspenders? With
Pocket Wizards, "poverty" wizards and flashwaves you should be pretty
well covered (at least till the Radio Poppers come on the market)

CN

Since I know how reliable the new Flashwaves work, I will sell the poverty wizards as fast as I can

And I am curious how the radiopoppers will do the job ...

Mario

OP Genes Pentax Senior Member • Posts: 1,080
Triggering 3 flashes with one receiver

I finally got another flash: Metz 48 AF-1. So, with that, I was able to try triggering 3 flashes with one receiver ... not that I think that'll be done very often, but was more or less a curiosity.

Flashes used: Metz 48 AF-1 (for Pentax), Pentax AF-540FGZ, Canon 430EX Speedlite. Borrowed the Canon. As you can see, Metz and Canon were connected via PC terminal and the mini phone plug.

The only cable that didn't come with the package was the PC-to-mini phone cable. I bought the Pocket Wizard PC sync cable. What struck me when I compared the Pocket Wizard branded cable and the cables that were included was how much good the quality of the included cables were. Can't tell you what the inside of those cables look like, but looking at the outside, the cables that were included with Flashwaves seemed like better quality cable than Pocket Wizard cable that cost me $15 extra!

Anyhow, I am now thinking about getting a flash bracket so that I can put up 3 flashes on one light stand ...

Gene

derknipser Regular Member • Posts: 301
Re: Triggering 3 flashes with one receiver

I find the original PW cables well built, but overpriced. But you're right, the delivered Flashwaves cables are great, too.

Mario

KLA1009 Forum Member • Posts: 71
Re: Triggering 3 flashes with one receiver

Have you triggered the camera with these yet?

derknipser Regular Member • Posts: 301
Re: Triggering 3 flashes with one receiver

I haven't triggered my camera with the Flashwaves, just flashes ...

Mario

OP Genes Pentax Senior Member • Posts: 1,080
Yes ... but ...

it will not work the AF function. But if you are setting it up with a manual focus, then it's not a problem at all.

Also, you cannot use one receiver (whether it's Flashwaves or Pocket Wizards) to sync the camera and the flashes b/c every camera has a shutter lag time that is a lot longer than the flash's response time. For instance, even the fastest Nikon (Nikon D3) with the least amount of shutter lag has lag time of 1/25s, i.e., the shutter moves 1/25 after the camera receives the signal for actuating the shutter.

Gene

KLA1009 wrote:

Have you triggered the camera with these yet?

matthaber New Member • Posts: 5
Re: SM Flashwaves - sync speed

The website says max sync is 1/180.

I like to shoot at the max sync of my camera, which is at least 1/200. Has anyone tried faster sync speeds?

derknipser Regular Member • Posts: 301
Re: SM Flashwaves - sync speed

Yes, in fact, Flashwaves do 1/250. Manufacturer's wrong/very carefully!

Mario

JoeyT Junior Member • Posts: 49
Re: SM Flashwaves - sync speed

with the Radio poppers coming out very soon, what reason is there not to wait for those especially with TTL capabilities? I believe they are around the same price if not cheaper.

Robert Lynch Senior Member • Posts: 1,765
Re: SM Flashwaves - sync speed

For starters, the Radio Poppers won't work with my hybrid Minolta/Sony flash system and more generally are useless for non-dedicated studio strobes. In short, the Radio Poppers look very interesting, but only if you are shooting Canon/Nikon wireless TTL, otherwise they do nothing for you.

phila_guy Senior Member • Posts: 2,360
RadioPopper Jr's

Robert Lynch wrote:

For starters, the Radio Poppers won't work with my hybrid
Minolta/Sony flash system and more generally are useless for
non-dedicated studio strobes. In short, the Radio Poppers look very
interesting, but only if you are shooting Canon/Nikon wireless TTL,
otherwise they do nothing for you.

http://radiopopper.com/model_jr.php

they're going to be radio triggers only without the TTL features, projected price $25/each. I'd buy them for $35 each if they're more reliable than the ebay triggers. They also have an estimated 2000 foot range.

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Robert Lynch Senior Member • Posts: 1,765
Know all about them

phila_guy wrote:

http://radiopopper.com/model_jr.php

they're going to be radio triggers only without the TTL features,
projected price $25/each.

I'll consider them if I need them when they are slightly less vapor-ware later this year. Meanwhile, the FlashWaves transmitter and two receivers that I ordered the other day are currently somewhere between the Post Office in Seoul, Korea and my home. I am hoping that they are a good compromise ($250 w/shipping) between the eBay triggers that I hated after the very first day of use and three PW transceivers ($577 w/shipping).

mufutau55 Senior Member • Posts: 1,138
Re: SM Flashwaves - Cheap alternative to Pocke Wizard

Anybody know how this SM Flashwaves is compared to Skyports? Given that they cost around the same price. Thanks.

Mufutau

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