Online Photog says no to E-3 because...

Started Jan 9, 2008 | Discussions
Tommy_2 Contributing Member • Posts: 748
Online Photog says no to E-3 because...

LACK OF PRIMES!

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/01/more-on-the-oly.html

C'mon Oly, give the man some primes. He says thats the only reason he will not buy the E-3.

Tommy

Denny Colvin Veteran Member • Posts: 3,055
And we should care, because? [nt]
acwalbur Veteran Member • Posts: 4,640
Flossing a dead horse....

Covered many times. There are several primes in the 4/3 camp, some quite fast (f/1.4).

We all know the deficient areas (65-80 mm f/1.? portrait, super tele like 400 mm f/5.6).

None of us can agree on what prime lengths we should have, so the majority of our lenses end up zooms.

I thought I wanted primes. Then I bought a mid-level zoom (14-54). Now I realize all I wanted was better glass. My OM primes are off to the auction house in the sky.

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  • Adam

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TexasAg03 Contributing Member • Posts: 676
Flossing?!?!?

Flossing a dead horse???

That's something new!! : )

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Jan56 Contributing Member • Posts: 516
sorry, that's silly !!!

may be it's the wrong camera for him, I love it!

Jan

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Kameraphil Regular Member • Posts: 445
Lack of Prime ??

This man should learn how to look. I actually suspect that one of the reasons Olympus don't make many because there are already too many, from all makes and in almost any focal length you'd care about.

Gottschalk Senior Member • Posts: 1,250
Re: Flossing?!?!?

If you "floss" a dead horse, there's something wrong with you

charliedid
charliedid Veteran Member • Posts: 8,693
Re: Lack of Prime ??

We all know the deficient areas (65-80 mm f/1.? portrait, super tele like 400 mm f/5.6).

For some maybe, but not me? I like Mike (TOP) would like to see some semi wide (fast) ish primes. Mike could certainly be looking for others but he has said many times on TOP the fast semi wide is crucial for him to buy in

If Olympus produces a 25mm prime it will make some peoples blood boil due to the fact that that FL is covered by both Sigma and Leica/Panasonic.

I'd buy anything 14-20mm f2.5 or faster this minute. But that's just me.......

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charliedid
charliedid Veteran Member • Posts: 8,693
Re: Lack of Prime ??

Kameraphil wrote:

This man should learn how to look. I actually suspect that one of the
reasons Olympus don't make many because there are already too many,
from all makes and in almost any focal length you'd care about.

Care to point all those out?

Thanks

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acwalbur Veteran Member • Posts: 4,640
Just trying to keep ya'll on your toes :) (n/t)
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dermicha
dermicha Contributing Member • Posts: 781
profits

we'll hardly see the primes "some of us" (including me) are hoping for.

modern user are used to zooms. why buy a lens with just one focal length when you can get a range from say 14 to 54 mm in just one lens for a similar price? thats modern thinking. primes are old fashioned, limiting and impractical...

a manufacturer (oly) will not produce primes as long as they don't promise profits. oly is a modern brand suiting the consumer and market demands. only profit counts. who minds a minority that want primes (or a simple ("puristic"), reliable, sturdy camera...)?

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acwalbur Veteran Member • Posts: 4,640
Charlie...

While wide is not my cuppa tea, I definitely concede this point that a lens is missing in this section. Although, can the argument not be made that with IS, and the inherent wide FOV of the 7-14, that faster than f/4 may not be necessary?

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joeru Regular Member • Posts: 197
Re: Online Photog says no to E-3 because...

I have alot of respect for Mike and he is just stating his opinion. I agree that the zooms are very high quality, but some nice, fast Zuiko primes would still be a great addition.

True, the Leica is fast, but it is pretty large and you pay for some features, like in-lens IS, that I would prefer were omitted.

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linuxworks Forum Pro • Posts: 18,937
Re: Flossing?!?!?

TexasAg03 wrote:

Flossing a dead horse???

That's something new!! : )

must not be an american expression. in the US, horses don't have good healthcare.

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Anthony Cheh Senior Member • Posts: 2,460
Well Said Joe

I've followed Mike's writings closely over the years and have very high regard for him.

That was his OWN decision, based upon his PERSONAL PREFERENCES -- he prefers primes.

He speaks highly of the E-3 and usually has strong praise for Olympus products. He's not attacking Olympus any more than other people in this forum who have chosen not to buy an E-3 at the present time.

Tony

charliedid
charliedid Veteran Member • Posts: 8,693
Re: Charlie...

acwalbur wrote:

While wide is not my cuppa tea, I definitely concede this point that
a lens is missing in this section. Although, can the argument not be
made that with IS, and the inherent wide FOV of the 7-14, that faster
than f/4 may not be necessary?

Well sure.....I actually don't require a super fast lens for what I do. ( I bet 90% of my stuff is shot between f5.6 and f11.) My Street and Detail work....but I tell ya if I could get the IQ of the E3 and a small(ish) fast semi wide it would open a world of opportunity for low light stuff that I just can't do (well) with my E300 I love the idea of IS but the 7-14 is not my cup of tea. Ideally I want and have said for a couple years now a 17.5 mm prime. I get on fine with my 14-54 but that option would be great to hit the street with to be sure. 17 mm for street and my 50mm ZD for details and boy I would be set.

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charliedid
charliedid Veteran Member • Posts: 8,693
Re: profits

I don't disagree with your thinking Michael

I don't have to like it though!

dermicha wrote:

we'll hardly see the primes "some of us" (including me) are hoping for.
modern user are used to zooms. why buy a lens with just one focal
length when you can get a range from say 14 to 54 mm in just one lens
for a similar price? thats modern thinking. primes are old fashioned,
limiting and impractical...
a manufacturer (oly) will not produce primes as long as they don't
promise profits. oly is a modern brand suiting the consumer and
market demands. only profit counts. who minds a minority that want
primes (or a simple ("puristic"), reliable, sturdy camera...)?

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winddancing Contributing Member • Posts: 556
Re: Flossing a dead horse....

That is a great lead-in!
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dermicha
dermicha Contributing Member • Posts: 781
Re: Online Photog says no to E-3 because...

AFAIK the D Summilux 25mm leica hasn't in-lens IS...
but its large and is not sealed. and the red dot is quite expensive...

joeru wrote:

I have alot of respect for Mike and he is just stating his opinion.
I agree that the zooms are very high quality, but some nice, fast
Zuiko primes would still be a great addition.

True, the Leica is fast, but it is pretty large and you pay for some
features, like in-lens IS, that I would prefer were omitted.

  • Joe

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Ed Buziak
Ed Buziak Regular Member • Posts: 263
Re: Flossing?!?!?

TexasAg03 wrote:

Flossing a dead horse???

That's something new!! : )

Perhaps a corruption of the old saying... "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!"

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