End of D40X production !!?????

Started Dec 27, 2007 | Discussions
DuncanM1 Contributing Member • Posts: 817
Re: Focus motor? No, Live view

I hope they keep the 10MP sensor in production. It is an excellent sensor, in its improved variants, such as in the D40x. I also don't agree that the D40x gives up anything to the 400D, at any ISO, especially 3200...:) I think the D40x is a really superb camera, and if Nikon came out with a D200s using the D40x sensor it would seriously cut into D300 sales. I've been using "liveview" on my SLR/DSLRs for decades...it's called a reflex viewfinder.

MrRoger wrote:

azguy wrote:

I doubt it will be that soon. The 10MP sensor will remain for a
while as the sensor of choice in the lower end bodies. Nikon will
"milk" the D300 sensor a little longer I believe. Basic marketing.
--

Dunno. Understand the concept of milking the D300, but what about the
competition?

The D40X just manages to match the 400D on DR and IQ on low ISO, but
falls behing at high ISO.

This spring we are expecting the D400's successor. The 400D's weak
points have been the kitlens and that many people find it awkward to
hold. The kitlens has allready been revised, I would be very suprised
if the ergonomics of the new 400D has not been addressed, and I would
be suprised if the sensor does not improve.

So where would that leave Nikon?

I do not think the D40/D80 would enroach on the D300's market anyway,
we are talking about a different class of camera, robust and fast
enougth for professional use.

jimr Forum Pro • Posts: 11,405
Re: Focus motor? No, Live view

I seriously question the accuracy of the second part of this statement.

The D40X just manages to match the 400D on DR and IQ on low ISO, but
falls behing at high ISO.

MrRoger Contributing Member • Posts: 712
Re: 450d specs...

Said Madhar wrote:

I was surprised to see only 2,5" LCD screen and only 10,1 MP. Time
will tell... Expected to be announced on January 24th.

The larger tiltable LCD will be reserved for the 45D

As anticipated, the big new is the Live View. Like dust reduction, it is one of those features that Canon users maintain is not necessary, until Canon have it

MrRoger Contributing Member • Posts: 712
SLR viewfinder is not live view

DuncanM1 wrote:
I've been using "liveview" on my

SLR/DSLRs for decades...it's called a reflex viewfinder.

I also used an SLR viewfinder for decades, before buying a compact with an EVF.

It is not the same. With Live view what you see is what you get, and you immediately notice when you have eg forgot to set the WB. Manual focus on SLR's got worse with smaller APS-C sensors. Focussing on a zoomed in image is awesome, but contrast AF foccusing is even better when you just want a specific bit of the image to be in focus, it is just doing what you would by hand, turn the focus ring to get the sharpest image.

It has it's drawbacks, I think having both is best!

Unfortunately, one of the drawbacks is that the live histogram cannot be displayed in an SLR viewfinder, I am now used to using the histogram for judging exposure compensation :-/

MrRoger Contributing Member • Posts: 712
Re: Focus motor? No, Live view

jimr wrote:
I seriously question the accuracy of the second part of this statement.

The D40X just manages to match the 400D on DR and IQ on low ISO, but
falls behing at high ISO.

Sometimes it is easier to say things like that than incur the wrath of the Canon fanboys

I like the way the Nikon tends to a film like grain effect, but Canon users always maintain they can easily cancel the color patching Canon noise in software.

One thing I will say is that I was quite impressed with this 3200 test shot which with a little bit of smoothing would be more than adequate at web resolutions

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D40X/FULLRES/D40XLL3204.HTM

VLampa Senior Member • Posts: 1,030
Re: Focus motor? No, Live view

MrRoger wrote:

I like the way the Nikon tends to a film like grain effect, but Canon
users always maintain they can easily cancel the color patching Canon
noise in software.

Yup, I like the noise structure of the D40/x. Very film-like and pleasing.

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