D300 noise and Capture NX

Started Nov 29, 2007 | Discussions
MTT Veteran Member • Posts: 4,954
Jason

JasonOdell wrote:

In Capture NX choose File--> Open With...
You need to set the "open with" application in preferences. NX then
sends a 16-bit TIFF to PS or whatever application you've chosen as
the "open with" program.

So that's how you do it, now I like NX just a bit better. Could you do this with NX 1.1 or 1.2? I tried looking for it but couldn't find it. Now only if they allow you to right click the image like NC and View NX and send it to PS CS3. That saves a little time. Here's a question, since I updated NX to 1.3, I can't find WB adjustment or advance RAW. Where is it?

Thanks,

Mark

Just be sure the application you choose supports 16-bit color.

-Jason

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Dr. Bob
Dr. Bob Regular Member • Posts: 263
Re: Jason

MTT wrote:

Here's a question, since I updated NX to 1.3, I can't find WB adjustment or advance RAW. Where is it?

It is only on the right hand side (no longer also on the left hand side)

Base Adjustment-> RAW Adjustment-> Light and Color Adjustment

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MTT Veteran Member • Posts: 4,954
Either I'm blind,

Or it's not there. This is what I see.

Thanks,

Mark

Dr. Bob wrote:

MTT wrote:

Here's a question, since I updated NX to 1.3, I can't find WB adjustment or advance RAW. Where is it?

It is only on the right hand side (no longer also on the left hand side)

Base Adjustment-> RAW Adjustment-> Light and Color Adjustment

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Reimar Contributing Member • Posts: 588
Re: Either I'm blind,

...or you don't have the edit list open.
Click Base Adjustments and you're off.

Reimar

Rickard Hansson Senior Member • Posts: 2,082
Re: Capture NX ......View NX

Yes, you get an free serial number for an copy of Capture NX 1.3 whe you buy an D300.

I did get an free license with my box and it works quite good. Have not made any hard testing yet.

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mike7588 Regular Member • Posts: 250
Re: JPEG may become the new format of choice for iQ - photoship

photoship wrote:

Since ACR and Lightroom kind of manipulate JPEGs/Tiffs as well as
RAW, perhaps the days of preferring RAW as the gold standard may
pass. For years RAW was king, but that may become vestigial.
nimix wrote:

Even though ACR can treat JPEG as raw but the color informations in JPEG are very much clipped and limited. Unlike the uncompressed TIFF and RAW format.

ricko5 Senior Member • Posts: 1,339
NX2

I really hope NX2 does away with the stupid interface and unacceptably slow performance of 1.x. Fingers crossed Nikon are trying to win a few more converts to capture by giving away the current version as a hook to upgrading to version 2.

I have a dual G5 Mac, 4 gigs of Ram and a meaty graphics card and NX is practically unuseable unless I want to edit just one or two files.

MTT Veteran Member • Posts: 4,954
There it is!! Thanks! nt

Reimar wrote:

...or you don't have the edit list open.
Click Base Adjustments and you're off.

Reimar

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JasonOdell Senior Member • Posts: 2,282
Re: Jason

IN 1.3, WB has moved to "RAW Adjustments" under Base Adjustments. The Camera Adjustments on the left has been removed. Those functions can be found in Base Adjustments under Picture Control.

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Chris Elliott Veteran Member • Posts: 3,979
"Improvements" in 1.3

JasonOdell wrote:

IN 1.3, WB has moved to "RAW Adjustments" under Base Adjustments.
The Camera Adjustments on the left has been removed. Those functions
can be found in Base Adjustments under Picture Control.

I find that a retrograde step. I suspect that has been done to discourage use of those steps.

I notice that you can now interlineate new steps if you forgot to do them in the right order with 1.3. Anybody spotted any other hidden inmprovements?

1.3 seems much slower than 1.2. I know that it keeps the whole image in memory and remaps changes rather than saving layers but the slowness is becoming a nuisance. (I am on a 2.8 Mhz P4 with 2GB of RAM but do not want to upgrade to a new PC and Vista and everything else I do works fine on this PC)

Part of the problem I suspect is keeping backward compatibility with Capture. That is certainly responsible in part for the messy interface!

A final comment. It is really very difficult to know where to look for comments on NX on this site. I have done a few searches and come up with very liittle. Comments are split across three Nikon forums plus Retouching. Is there enough discussion going on here to warrant a separate forum for NX? Any suggestions as to where else to look?

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bernieraffe1 New Member • Posts: 12
Re: D300 noise - very little difference when printed

Although I agree with the original poster, (I was pretty shocked myself when I saw the difference between raw conversion using NX and Adobe Lightroom), when you come to print the image, the difference is hardly discernible.

I printed the Lightroom and NX images, and to be honest, I had to look at them very very closely to tell them apart. This was 10x8 prints, i'm sure the differences would be more noticieable at larger sizes though.

I hate the thought of of using NX to process several hundred wedding photos!!

Cheers,
Bernie

Bill Heiser
Bill Heiser Regular Member • Posts: 415
Re: Jason

MTT wrote:

I can't find WB adjustment or
advance RAW. Where is it?

They're in the "base adjustments" tab - I think (before I moved mine) the default was on the right-hand side of the screen. Click the little triangle next to "base adjustments" and a plethora of options appears.

Iliah Borg Forum Pro • Posts: 25,833
Re: Iliah:

rhlpetrus wrote:

There was a test here once of many RAW converters with, I think, an
image from a D2X

Some threads on this topic were run by Matt Anderson.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=23496307

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MTT Veteran Member • Posts: 4,954
Thanks Jason & Bill,

I had to open up the edit list and there it was, base ajustments tab. And yes, it was moved to the right side.

Thanks again,

Mark

Bill Heiser wrote:

MTT wrote:

I can't find WB adjustment or
advance RAW. Where is it?

They're in the "base adjustments" tab - I think (before I moved mine)
the default was on the right-hand side of the screen. Click the
little triangle next to "base adjustments" and a plethora of options
appears.

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Beau Long Contributing Member • Posts: 972
Re: Disagree 100%

nimix wrote:

When I work with Capture NX I run out of the room screaming after 30
minutes.

LOL! I almost spit my tea all over my monitor. I don't shoot a lot of RAW, but, recently had the chance to do some TV studio work and shot in RAW. Now, initially, when I DL'd NX and popped it open for a bit to mess around, it seemed fine; a bit slower than CS2, but workable. After editing these latest studio shots, I too, literally ran screaming out of the room after 30 minutes and 3 pics done... 110 more to go! But damn, the results are nice.

Lil- I feel your pain now! LOL

Chris Elliott Veteran Member • Posts: 3,979
Re: Disagree 100%

Beau,

It gets easier with familiarity. The interface is messy and the speed is slooow. But the results are good.

Biggest power hog is NR.

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TYROX Regular Member • Posts: 208
Re: Disagree 100%

Well after several hours trying to get the same result from the RAW file to produce the results of the jpg I must say I've failed. Tried loads of different settings, sharpening, noise reduction etc... but I still believe at high ISO you can't get the same image quality processing a RAW file compared to a jpg straight out of the camera.

I would like to see some shots at ISO 3200 & 6400 were people have taken a RAW + Fine and show the superior quality of the RAW file against the jpg because at the moment I am not seeing it.

Best wishes
Sue @ http://www.suesbirdphotos.co.uk

mbernard Senior Member • Posts: 1,093
Re: Noize in ACR

I have some but not much. I processed some nefs from the d200. And the results were surprisingly good. Nefs processed by the NX seemed to be more contrasty and little more colourful, nefs that went through the Capture one had better tonality.

engbert Senior Member • Posts: 2,904
Capture NX on Quad Core

I find the speed of Capture NX 1.3 is much better now I have a quad core processor Q6600 with 3gb - it came in a Gateway GT5628 computer which was under $1000. On the whole I have been v pleased with it.

On this system NCNX is almost acceptable. It loads file quickly, and the place where I find problems is in the Curves function. It is very hard to make smooth adjustments of the curves - there is a delay after I move my pen or mouse, and then it suddenly moves too much. It still takes a second or so to update a screen, and sharpening can take several seconds to show up on the image with no preview. The interface is still horrible compared w ACR, but I do notice that NX corrects blue fringing often, wen ACR does not.

I wonder if this is something to do with .net?

The browser is a bt clumsy - ideally I woiuld like to use Bridge to browse, and then open the files into NX, and then transfer some of them to PS.

However, inthe latest version of Bridge, 2.1.1.9, they have taken away that ability. I have mentioned it on the Adobe forum, but got no reply. I do not know if this is an oversight or some competitive game playing.

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erichlund Senior Member • Posts: 1,160
Re: Capture NX ......View NX

mlmusto wrote:

capture nx 1.3 image processing software; has the NEF converter for
d300 files.
will be updated to v. 2.0 before you know it (which will not be free).

i like the 1.3, however.

view nx free download - i can't get that to install- is just an
image library/organizer. would like to have so as to avoid lightroom
but i can't get it to install and many say it is very buggy.

Check the Nikon Website. There is an issue with ViewNX and NetMagic, a program that comes with D-Link routers. Until you apply the fix, you cannot install, or, if already installed, uninstall or run ViewNX. Once you apply the fix, you have to run ViewNX before you run NetMagic. Nikon (actually, probably Nik) is researching the problem for a more comprehensive and appropriate fix.
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