Clear coat painting over ink jet photo

Started Nov 27, 2007 | Discussions
joe filer Senior Member • Posts: 2,934
Clear coat painting over ink jet photo

I want to "decoupage" a photo that is printed on Epson Premium Photo paper onto a piece of wood. It is intended to give a protective finish for graphics on a home-made game. I experimented with water base polyurethane that I had on hand. This bleeds the inks, so it won't work.

Has anyone has had experience with traditional polyurethane or other clear paints that have enough "body" to bond the picture to the wood.

I might have to purchase the 2 part epoxy paint that is used to put thick coats on table tops, etc. However, the epoxy is a little pricey if something else would work.

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Doug Morgan Veteran Member • Posts: 4,435
Re: Clear coat painting over ink jet photo

Joe:

I would use an acrylic that is made specifically for this.

If you want a real thick coating that will self level -- like that you'd find on a bar table with embedded objects for example I think Lee Valley has just the ticket and I'm sure other woodworking outlets as well.

For a more art-oriented product that has more archival features look for a UVLS acrylic varnish or coating. These are generally water based but may not give a perfectly smooth surface. In addition to inkjet-branded products you should be able to find some at any art supply outlet: Golden would probably be the most common brand.

You can use the acrylic to mount the page as well as coat the surface.

Note that I would use a paper like enhanced matte as the coatings will bond to it much better than a resin coated paper.

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OP joe filer Senior Member • Posts: 2,934
Re: Clear coat painting over ink jet photo

Thanks for the help. I am a little limited on paper for this one-time project. Enhanced Matte isn't intended for my dye-base inks and I hope to use the roll paper that I have since the prints will be narrow, but about 24 inches long.

I did test a little paint thinner (mineral spirits) on a sample print and the dye colors didn't bleed. This is encouraging to try traditional solvent based polyurethane.

I might also try Pictorico Water color card stock that I have on hand. It isn't long enough to print on a single sheet, but the texture on both sides might work for better bonding.
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Dominic.Chan Veteran Member • Posts: 6,168
Re: Dye ink and Enhanced Matte

joe filer wrote:

Enhanced Matte isn't intended for my dye-base inks

Not sure which printer you have, but Enhanced Matte (now called Ultra Premium Presentation Paper) is intended for both dye and pigment inks.

Tom Monego Senior Member • Posts: 2,944
Re: Clear coat painting over ink jet photo

Especially with dye based inks you have to be sure the coating doesn't disolve the inks. I did sheets that were embeded in acrylic and we had a big problem that most papers had a smearing or just disolving of the image. Unfortunately the paper we settled on was by a company that is no longer in business. Nothing else even with similar specs seemed to work. We solved the problem by using pigment based ink. I would recommend using a finish recommended for water based material.

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panoramic Regular Member • Posts: 131
Re: Clear coat painting over ink jet photo

Depending on how thick the wood you are using is you could just try printing directly onto wood using InkAid inkjet coating. What kind of printer do you have?
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Doug Morgan Veteran Member • Posts: 4,435
Re: Clear coat painting over ink jet photo

I'd stay away from poly and look for an acrylic product. Even "future' floor wax would work. Many polys are "designed to amber" with age (marketting speak for yellow horribly) and optical clarity usually isn't a concern.

The last dye-based printer I had was a very much unloved HP and it took forever just to resist smudging so I would take care and let the print dry completely. You'll have less trouble with a matte paper rather than a resin paper in this as well.

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Doug

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