D300 Basketball Shots at ISO 3200

Started Nov 13, 2007 | Discussions
forre Forum Member • Posts: 89
Then it's an aggressive in camera NR

Still better than all previous Nikons though. Now I wonder about the sensitivity level. Will wait for the camera sales release and big tests. I'm more than interested in this particular machine. Fast, relatively small, great IQ. So, fingers crossed!
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forre Forum Member • Posts: 89
Re: Lens Used?

LeeR wrote:

I looked through the thread and may have missed it...but did not see
which lens was used with these shots.

I was asking the same question and found the answer further down in the thread on that forum. He said "Thank you all for the comments. This was the final firmware version. I was shooting with the 70-200VR and the 200 f2. These shots were with the 70-200, 1/640th first shot, 1/800th second shot and third shot. The in-camera NR was set to normal, shooting compressed raw."

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photoforfun Veteran Member • Posts: 6,084
Very impressive...any possibility to see original files?

Best D300 iso3200 shots I've seen until now, I would be very interested to see the original files... Anybody has a link?

Thanks in advance.
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Elixir Contributing Member • Posts: 679
They do?

snappey wrote:

In fact these look great:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=25557606

No, they don't. They look about like the photos I got from my 40D. Despite using top notch glass like this guy did, photos were slightly soft, the sharp ones were not sharp enough, and I got a lot of backfocused shots where the crowd was sharp and the players were not.

Looks like the standard 40D portfolio to me, nothing like the D300 shots posted, and the full reason I've switched.

Thanks for pointing them out, though. I needed the reminder that I made the right choice.

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Re: Lens Used?--Thanks, Olga( NT)

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Beau Long Contributing Member • Posts: 972
Yep, it was set at Normal... fairly aggressive IMO.

forre wrote:

Still better than all previous Nikons though. Now I wonder about the
sensitivity level. Will wait for the camera sales release and big
tests. I'm more than interested in this particular machine. Fast,
relatively small, great IQ. So, fingers crossed!
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Olga

Agreed... Conclusive tests will be from behind the VF for me.

forre Forum Member • Posts: 89
Re: Yep, it was set at Normal... fairly aggressive IMO.

Beau Long wrote:

Agreed... Conclusive tests will be from behind the VF for me.

Looking forward to your real situation reports then!

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Kim Letkeman
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Re: Hi kim, it would b nice to see the grain, sure..but

sandy b wrote:

at that range and speed of the action and that iso, I'm not surprised
that its not visible.

I think the third shot is probably more indicative of what I'm talking about rather than the crop with the out of focus ball.

That shot is very comparable with the shots you reference from the 40d, and specifically shots 6 and 9.

In the 40d shots, I get a sense of the texture of the ball ... in the D300 shot, I get the sense of the texture of a beach ball. It actually looks a little like a blow up ball. Too smooth, in other words.

Look here at Jose's great shots:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=25557606

See any grain on the ball? and at a much lower iso and much better
light.

They are great, and so are the D300 shots by the way. My only concern is that the D300 is hitting the noise harder and a lot of texture is being smoothed. I find the 40D shots to have a little more feeling of actual texture, however that could easily just be in-cam settings as the primary difference.

To be honest, getting any kind of usable shots at 3200 on a
regular basis on the mid level cameras is amazing. I honestly feel,
and some pretty good canon and nikon users agree, there is not a lot
of difference left between the new cameras. I for one feel thats a
good thing. I does puzzle me when I see people wanting or hoping that
Nikon will fail.

I don't think that's true ... I just think that people need to stop gushing and take a close look at what is coming out ... sometimes a few tweaks of settings makes a huge difference and we won't see that happen if every image is greeted with OMG!!

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Re: They do?

Elixir wrote:

snappey wrote:

In fact these look great:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=25557606

No, they don't. They look about like the photos I got from my 40D.
Despite using top notch glass like this guy did, photos were slightly
soft, the sharp ones were not sharp enough, and I got a lot of
backfocused shots where the crowd was sharp and the players were not.

I agree that some of those images are disappointingly soft. Others, though, are excellent. You even get a sense of texture on the ball from quite far away.

Looks like the standard 40D portfolio to me, nothing like the D300
shots posted, and the full reason I've switched.

Thanks for pointing them out, though. I needed the reminder that I
made the right choice.

Whether you made the right choice or not will only become apparent when you actually shoot with the cam ... it amazes me how many definitive statements are coming out with not one extended experience report available.

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Elixir Contributing Member • Posts: 679
Re: They do?

Kim Letkeman wrote:

Whether you made the right choice or not will only become apparent
when you actually shoot with the cam ... it amazes me how many
definitive statements are coming out with not one extended experience
report available.

I'm making my "definitive statement" based on using the D40 and D200, both of which focus significantly better for me than the 30D or 40D ever did. I think it's safe to say that the D300 will be even better.

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