Canon 1ds MarkII user test D3

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AKaz Regular Member • Posts: 258
Canon 1ds MarkII user test D3

I figured i would share this with the Nikon people rather than the 1D crowd, mainly because they can not be objective. Here goes, i played with a Nikon D3 today at my dealers today for well over 2 hours.

The camera was allot of fun to play with, the ergonomics of the camera are terrific! I put the camera in some real ISO1600 and 3200 situations and it responded flawless, focus locked rite on, fast, and accurate!

ISO1600 and 3200 the noise level is rite on par as with the canon 1d MarkIII, with a nod going to the Nikon for showing more detail. I was allowed to take it down the street to the airport, AIServo locked on everytime on passing jets and BIF.
Color chart is spot on as well.

As i mentioned i shoot a 1ds MarkII, 1d MarkII, 5D and already had, and sold, a 1d MarkIII.

You guys are truly going to love this camera, love it so much that i gave him a deposit on one, and i purchased a new AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G IF-ED, and a AF NIKKOR 85mm f/1.4D IF.

BTW looking through the LCD is like looking at a HD TV. Save your pennies kids, it was truly a wonderful camera!

If it was ever 16MP i would consider dumping almost all my Canon Gear except for my long Super Tele primes 400/2.8 500/4.

Now about my 1dsMarkII, canons best camera to date, hands down, and i owned them all. The 1ds MarkIII does not have my interest at all, yet atleast based on all the test images i have seen from it. In two weeks he will have one in for me to test.

Now the D3 takes just as good as images as my 1dsMarkII, however, the D3 did not beat the 1dsMarkII in resolving power! But then again, my 1ds MarkII can not rifle off 9FPS either, and does not have a super LCD for chimpin.

If the 1ds MarkII ever had 8FPS and a Live View like the D3, it would hands down be the last camera i would ever purchase.

I wish i never held that daymn D3, i liked it allot. If the 1ds MarkIII does not deliver, i have made up my mind, i will sell all my Canon Lower Primes, and cameras, will just keep the 1ds MarkII and the 400 & 500, everything else goes! I will just sit back and keep enjoying my new D3 and my 1ds MarkII until Nikon puts out 16MP 9FPS camera..

Once again, save, save, save, a very fun camera!
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Joao Sobral Regular Member • Posts: 356
Re: Canon 1ds MarkII user test D3

That's verry good news.

I will get one as soon as Phil puts out a review.

Thanks

Joao Sobral

jb_va2001 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,741
Thanks for sharing this, I'm #32 on the wait list at my shop. /nt

AKaz wrote:

I figured i would share this with the Nikon people rather than the 1D
crowd, mainly because they can not be objective. Here goes, i played
with a Nikon D3 today at my dealers today for well over 2 hours.
The camera was allot of fun to play with, the ergonomics of the
camera are terrific! I put the camera in some real ISO1600 and 3200
situations and it responded flawless, focus locked rite on, fast, and
accurate!
ISO1600 and 3200 the noise level is rite on par as with the canon 1d
MarkIII, with a nod going to the Nikon for showing more detail. I was
allowed to take it down the street to the airport, AIServo locked on
everytime on passing jets and BIF.
Color chart is spot on as well.
As i mentioned i shoot a 1ds MarkII, 1d MarkII, 5D and already had,
and sold, a 1d MarkIII.
You guys are truly going to love this camera, love it so much that i
gave him a deposit on one, and i purchased a new AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR
70-200mm f/2.8G IF-ED, and a AF NIKKOR 85mm f/1.4D IF.
BTW looking through the LCD is like looking at a HD TV. Save your
pennies kids, it was truly a wonderful camera!
If it was ever 16MP i would consider dumping almost all my Canon Gear
except for my long Super Tele primes 400/2.8 500/4.
Now about my 1dsMarkII, canons best camera to date, hands down, and i
owned them all. The 1ds MarkIII does not have my interest at all, yet
atleast based on all the test images i have seen from it. In two
weeks he will have one in for me to test.
Now the D3 takes just as good as images as my 1dsMarkII, however, the
D3 did not beat the 1dsMarkII in resolving power! But then again, my
1ds MarkII can not rifle off 9FPS either, and does not have a super
LCD for chimpin.
If the 1ds MarkII ever had 8FPS and a Live View like the D3, it would
hands down be the last camera i would ever purchase.
I wish i never held that daymn D3, i liked it allot. If the 1ds
MarkIII does not deliver, i have made up my mind, i will sell all my
Canon Lower Primes, and cameras, will just keep the 1ds MarkII and
the 400 & 500, everything else goes! I will just sit back and keep
enjoying my new D3 and my 1ds MarkII until Nikon puts out 16MP 9FPS
camera..

Once again, save, save, save, a very fun camera!
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ohmydentist Senior Member • Posts: 1,933
u r killing me slowly~

I want D3 !

but I can't bring myself to blow off $5G for a hobby. It's incomprehensible, unacceptable, and down right unethical. Right?

Now, if somebody could tell me D3 isn't worth dingdong.

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Guy Swarbrick
Guy Swarbrick Veteran Member • Posts: 4,448
Re: Canon 1ds MarkII user test D3

Joao Sobral wrote:

That's verry good news.

I will get one as soon as Phil puts out a review.

You might ORDER one once Phil puts out a review; it'll be a while before you get one...

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LarryK Senior Member • Posts: 1,958
Re: Canon 1ds MarkII user test D3

AKaz wrote:

I figured i would share this with the Nikon people rather than the 1D
crowd, mainly because they can not be objective.

Almost every Canon user I've heard, that has actually handled the camera, has reported glowingly on the D3 and I think that speaks volumes for it.

Thanks for the info.

Larry

Marco Senior Member • Posts: 1,851
Comparing D3 to 1DsII

Now the D3 takes just as good as images as my 1dsMarkII, however, the D3 did
not beat the 1dsMarkII in resolving power!

So you are saying that the D3 is just as good as the 1DsII in resolving power ?!

Are you serious ? Because... wow... I knew about D3 great high ISO perfomance, but this statement (and from a Canon guy) is really killing me... !

Thanks for your report, feel free to flood this thread with more info if you like

OP AKaz Regular Member • Posts: 258
Not resolving power

No, i said that it takes just as good as pictures as my 1ds MarkII, but the 1ds MarkII shows more resolving power...

Marco wrote:

Now the D3 takes just as good as images as my 1dsMarkII, however, the D3 did
not beat the 1dsMarkII in resolving power!

So you are saying that the D3 is just as good as the 1DsII in
resolving power ?!

Are you serious ? Because... wow... I knew about D3 great high ISO
perfomance, but this statement (and from a Canon guy) is really
killing me... !

Thanks for your report, feel free to flood this thread with more info
if you like

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NeilJones
NeilJones Veteran Member • Posts: 5,455
Re: Not resolving power

AKaz wrote:

No, i said that it takes just as good as pictures as my 1ds MarkII,
but the 1ds MarkII shows more resolving power...

What's "resolving power"? Is that how long the battery lasts on a charge?

rhlpetrus Forum Pro • Posts: 26,210
unethical?

My strategy:

Will start saving the afternoon coffee, 2 bucks a day, 730 a year. Then, will pray for a cheaper asmaller D3, 2.5K, I'll get there in 3 years, by then it'll be on the market!

This is it, no complaining, no more afternoon coffee, FF D400 with D3 (or better) tech in 2010!

Is that unethical, incomprehensible? I'll promise to use it for nature/conservation purposes, will take pics of the vanishing fauna and flora due to global warming, send them to politicians al over the globe, will that minimize my guilt? Is there a purgatory for us who crave for a D3 in that case? Tell me, please, yes, there is!

OMG!

ohmydentist wrote:

I want D3 !

but I can't bring myself to blow off $5G for a hobby. It's
incomprehensible, unacceptable, and down right unethical. Right?

Now, if somebody could tell me D3 isn't worth dingdong.

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rhlpetrus Forum Pro • Posts: 26,210
are you kidding, no? n/t

NeilJones wrote:

AKaz wrote:

No, i said that it takes just as good as pictures as my 1ds MarkII,
but the 1ds MarkII shows more resolving power...

What's "resolving power"? Is that how long the battery lasts on a
charge?

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tabloid Veteran Member • Posts: 3,004
Re: Not resolving power

it means a higher and better file size for pro photographers who need it (like lets say Hasselblad users,) also what it means is the 21mp is better that 12mp when it comes to definition.

Please remember that both cameras are for pro users who will use the cameras in different fields of photography.

Some photographers will go for the Canon simply because it has higher resolving power.

Pro photographer and Canon/Nikon rely that lots of members of the public will purchase the cameras, which then keeps the price lower due to mass production.

GR

NeilJones
NeilJones Veteran Member • Posts: 5,455
No, not kidding...

I didn't see anything in the D3 specs about "resolving power"

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Re: Not resolving power

It'll be interesting to see if the typical Canon(or any make) lens can service a 21 MP sensor.
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rhlpetrus Forum Pro • Posts: 26,210
Re: No, not kidding...

OK: the higher the pixel count is it means that the camera has more "resolution" or "resoving power", meaning that the image on sensor will be recorded by more "light points", the pixels.

In practice, it means that if you see both pics on the same monitor, the one with more pixels will be larger, if no process is applied, as well as in the same printer the higher pixel one will also be larger, given that each sensor pixel will be tranlated, usually into a matrix of printer dots giving the "intensity" of the original sensor pixel.

Thus, a sensor with more pixels will provide a larger print with same number of dots per inch (DPI), which translates into "more resolving power", since, when looking at the print from distances which give same angle of view for both one will see the larger one from farther away, so that the print "dots" are less visible, giving the impression of more smooth image (higher resolution).

Check the LCD TVs, both Full HD and not at a local store. At 52", standing about 7 feet from both you'll be able to clearly see the color dots forming the image in the non FullHD TV set, but much less so in the FullHD image. The latter has higher resolution.

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NeilJones wrote:

I didn't see anything in the D3 specs about "resolving power"

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antonoat Veteran Member • Posts: 3,786
This is what cookie monster will miss.......

Every now and again you get an appraisal from an experienced, unbiased ,intelligent photographer who tells it how it is without any hidden agenda, even though by his own admission he is from the dark side.

My hat is off to you Sir for your honest, relevant comparison.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to share your experience.
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NeilJones
NeilJones Veteran Member • Posts: 5,455
Re: This is what cookie monster will miss.......

antonoat wrote:

Every now and again you get an appraisal from an experienced,
unbiased ,intelligent photographer who tells it how it is without any
hidden agenda, even though by his own admission he is from the dark
side.

What's "the dark side"?

My hat is off to you Sir for your honest, relevant comparison.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to share your experience.
regards
tony
http://www.pbase.com/wildoat

JohnnyRX7 Senior Member • Posts: 1,853
Re: Canon 1ds MarkII user test D3

Guy Swarbrick wrote:

Joao Sobral wrote:

That's verry good news.

I will get one as soon as Phil puts out a review.

You might ORDER one once Phil puts out a review; it'll be a while
before you get one...

If the cam is as good as it seems to be and with nikons past delivery issues... it maybe a long wait anyways
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Dave Santora Senior Member • Posts: 2,552
You've been here years and don't know...

OK then, it is the other team, the other camp, the other side of town... it is Canon silly
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Re: This is what cookie monster will miss.......

NeilJones wrote:

antonoat wrote:

Every now and again you get an appraisal from an experienced,
unbiased ,intelligent photographer who tells it how it is without any
hidden agenda, even though by his own admission he is from the dark
side.

What's "the dark side"?

My hat is off to you Sir for your honest, relevant comparison.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to share your experience.
regards
tony
http://www.pbase.com/wildoat

For people that think the brand is the only thing: Nikon people say Canon is the dark side. Canon people say Nikon is the dark side. For me, the dark side is when I have to give up shadow detail to retain highlights.
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