Help! Talk me out of the D1x before Tomorrow!

[Jason Stoller]

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200 Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason--Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

 

[koo22]

Go ahead, Jason. You may or may not see a big difference in the photo quality, but I bet you see a huge difference in the usability of the equipment, which is what all this discussion is really all about. The E-series are fine cameras, but they do have limitations. If you can afford the D1X, then I say go for it. I sure would! K.

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am
trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In
my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for
photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo
Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is
this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200
Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am
going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and
the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be
before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My
opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

 

[Tommy Martin]

It would almost be a sin to put that crappy glass on a camera like that.

As far as getting the other camera... if you don't make your living at it then it would be hard to justify. If you make "some" money shooting it's borderline. If you just shoot for fun it would probably be a stretch.

Of course if you have plenty of money then it doesn't really matter anyhow.

Tommy

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am
trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In
my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for
photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo
Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is
this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200
Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am
going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and
the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be
before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My
opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

--Tommy

 

[koo22]

You said you wanted to be talked OUT of it.........sorry! Well, there IS the dust issue......okay, I tried. K.

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am
trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In
my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for
photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo
Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is
this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200
Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am
going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and
the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be
before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My
opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

 

[dash9]

I have a passion for

photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera!

you answered your own question. if you're not a pro why spend the $$ to buy the' pro' equipment? the e-10 will take the same pics and is highly rated, and if you wait a little longer you will probably find a more improved camera. the e-10 dropped about $800 in one year and the next generation digital camera is just around the corner. just because you get no interest for 12 months doesn't necessarily make it a good value.
its not the camera that takes the photo, its the person using it.
pay attention to mr. slack and what he has said in the past

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am
trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In
my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for
photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo
Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is
this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200
Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am
going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and
the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be
before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My
opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

 

[BKKSW]

I have been reading like crazy!

Maybe Crazy is the operative word here.. The D1X is already over a year old and it's replacement isn't too far away I'd guess. You can save money and use the same glass on the D100. We talked about this in another thread, but my experience with the D1X is that it's very large and heavy which makes it inappropriate for certain kinds of use. We are also on the verge of new testing of a new crop of cameras which will most likely have new features, improved CCD's, and other nice to have things at half the price..

I personally think by September we'll learn about a new "crop" of cameras that will put the current crop to shame.. In the meantime, the E-xx will continue to provide you with an acceptable tool for your hobby...

I've been there, done that, and had the taste of it in my mouth only to have a dose of logic and reality strike me microseconds before opening my wallet..

If you choose to wait, you'll be in good company..

BKKSW

 

[Jason Stoller]

Its not that I have plenty of money at all. Lots of people play pool and invest in expensive pool sitcks. Lots of people own expensive Four Wheel drives but never take them off road! Some people like to sew so they have expensive sewing machines. Some people have very expensive and sofisticated computer systems and do nothing with them but play games. So there are things we do for Fun and the passion we have for it even though it might cost us more to own that particular item. If investing in the D1x now means that I have arrived at the last Digital camera I will own then I am all for it. If it means I am wasting money in the long run then I am against it. So I am weighing everything here. Its not always about having the money that makes the decision. Sometimes there is just a little more to it than that!

Jason

As far as getting the other camera... if you don't make your living
at it then it would be hard to justify. If you make "some" money
shooting it's borderline. If you just shoot for fun it would
probably be a stretch.

Of course if you have plenty of money then it doesn't really matter
anyhow.

Tommy

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am
trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In
my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for
photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo
Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is
this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200
Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am
going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and
the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be
before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My
opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

--
Tommy

--Jason Stoller [email protected] that special moment with a great camera

 

[Lou Verruto]

The pure joy of making quality photographs is justification enough. Who says you have to make money with a camera to justify buying what is arguably the best digi slr out there right now? Who says so?

Lose that Tamron lens though. It's dog drool. you will not get the image quality the camera can deliver. NFW.

THe EXX are good cameras, as you know. I like my E10 a lot. I'm going to get the D1X, if the D100 doesn't live up to expectations. Many friends have the D1X and/or D1H and the images are far superior to the Exx, which they also have. These guys are good photographers, shoot for magazines and newspapers etc. And they still use the Exx when they don't want to be bothered with carrying Domke bags full of Nikors.

You know, just because something is better than something else doesn't necessarily mean that "something else" is bad!

Buy it.......have killer buyer's remorse.....and email me with your rock bottom price! (Just kidding)

Get it man. You won't regret it.

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am
trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In
my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for
photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo
Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is
this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200
Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am
going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and
the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be
before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My
opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

-- http://www.pbase.com/louverruto/root

 

[Bill Harris]

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money,

MY opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

If your willing to part with the cash outright, rather than financing, and deep down you really want it then go for it.........or wait and buy the D60 or D100 and save thousands.......or keep the E10 and buy a 65" widescreen HDTV..:> )..Hope I'm helping.

Bill H

 

[Diane B]

Jason Stoller wrote:
If investing in the D1x now means that I

have arrived at the last Digital camera I will own then I am all
for it

If that's what you are thinking about this purchase, you and I know that won't work out smile . However, if you can buy this one wtihout putting you and your close ones in any financial strain, then its just whether you are willing to shell out that much right now with things moving so quickly.

Diane--Diane B http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleriesB/W lover, but color is seducing me

 

[Tommy Martin]

I was trying to make a point about justifying the purchase. You asked. I aparently wasn't too successful ;-) Note the first paragraph... Just my opinion.

I realize everything is not about the money but it does play a big part in the toys we buy. If it didn't you probably would have already bought it and not posted this message and I would go down there and get a D1X too

Happy shooting...

Tommy

Jason

As far as getting the other camera... if you don't make your living
at it then it would be hard to justify. If you make "some" money
shooting it's borderline. If you just shoot for fun it would
probably be a stretch.

Of course if you have plenty of money then it doesn't really matter
anyhow.

Tommy

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am
trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In
my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for
photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo
Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is
this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200
Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am
going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and
the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be
before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My
opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

--
Tommy

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

--Tommy

 

[dgrogers]

If you can get the D1x for close to the same price of a D100 or D60, go ahead. If not, just wait for one of these cameras. A D60 for $2,100 is very tempting.

 

[DaveKinneer]

Its not that I have plenty of money at all. Lots of people play
pool and invest in expensive pool sitcks. Lots of people own
expensive Four Wheel drives but never take them off road! Some
people like to sew so they have expensive sewing machines. Some
people have very expensive and sofisticated computer systems and do
nothing with them but play games. So there are things we do for Fun
and the passion we have for it even though it might cost us more to
own that particular item. If investing in the D1x now means that I
have arrived at the last Digital camera I will own then I am all
for it. If it means I am wasting money in the long run then I am
against it. So I am weighing everything here. Its not always
about having the money that makes the decision. Sometimes there is
just a little more to it than that!

Jason

If your decision turns on whether the D1x will be enough camera to satisfy you forever, I would think it would not, and so the answer would be: don't get it. But if you mean the last camera you will own for 5 years or so, then go ahead. But we all know Nikon will come out with something better than the D1x in a few years, maybe even sooner. And maybe a lot better.

But, if it is what you want, and if you think it would make you happy, go for it. Remember, these may be the best years of your life.

--Dave

 

[Jacques Pontbriand]

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money,

MY opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

If your willing to part with the cash outright, rather than
financing, and deep down you really want it then go for
it.........or wait and buy the D60 or D100 and save
thousands.......or keep the E10 and buy a 65" widescreen
HDTV..:> )..Hope I'm helping.

Bill H

I think everyone gave you good advice....... I had a D1X for a week and took pictures with the E-10 and compare and I could afford to change to the D1X but I am waiting before I invest seriously into something real expensive that the technology stabilized itself, Hoping we do not get a new model every six months. F models use to be introduce after 8 to 10 years and they would keep good value. If you are going to walk around town with your camera you will appreciate the Exx for there zoom that covers a good range and specially the weight is the big factor and most important no dust problems. I love my E-10 and no matter what I buy in the next year or so I will keep it for a backup system.
--Jacques http://www.geocities.com/cam2000.geo/

 

[William C]

Why are there so many E## owners, think they can get a
camera for around $2100. All you get is a body, no lens. Then they
think the can cut back on the qualitiy of the lens.

If you buy an excellent camera put the best glass infront of it.

The correct answer is:

"A D60 starting at $2,100 is very tempting."

These cameras do not have lens that screw on top of the
camera's len like the E##.

My Two Cents

Bill

 

[Vance]

Hey Billy,

Again we agree. This is getting scary, your starting to think like a sheep.

I got the cheaper 75-300mm zoom for the D30, and so far it's working pretty good for me, but I'm sure I'll be wanting a better peice of glass eventually.

Actually I do lust for the 100-400 L zoom.. hehehe but $1,200 min price is still just a bit steep for me. (

I still carry both camera's with me, and my extra E-lens in a smaller camera bag. I can't wait to really get out there and put them both through the pace's though.

Why are there so many E## owners, think they can get a
camera for around $2100. All you get is a body, no lens. Then they
think the can cut back on the qualitiy of the lens.

If you buy an excellent camera put the best glass infront of it.

The correct answer is:

"A D60 starting at $2,100 is very tempting."

These cameras do not have lens that screw on top of the
camera's len like the E##.

My Two Cents

Bill

--Vance.

 

[Pixel Warp]

When I bought my Canon EOS A2 35mm body I also got talked into a Tamron 28-200 lens "for the value". After one use I promptly returned it and paid the difference for a Canon 28-105. I'd like to have the extra zoom range the 28-200 gave me but the image quality improvement I found in the Canon lens was well worth the price and zoom difference. The pictures I got with the Tamron lens were soft and low in contrast compared to pictures taken with the Canon glass in similar conditions.

My advise? If you can't afford to buy the body AND a Nikon lens to go with it... WAIT! I believe that you will regret spending your $$ on a Tamron lens to go on a PRO body. If you have the money and don't mind blowing it then go for the camera and a Nikon lens from the start.

I'm actually in the same situation you have found yourself in. I don't make any money with my cameras so I can't justify spending the required investment to do the 35mm body/D-SLR/interchangeable lens right, as in good body/good glass together.

Until my budget, needs, or the options/price ranges available change in my favor I am not going to drop that kind of money with no return expected other than noiseless images and fast write times... I just can't imagine being able to get through buyers remorse if I made the move you are contemplating. I'm afraid that you'll regret it as well when what you REALLY want comes out in less than one year and you have to contemplate unloading your new old rig for the NEW new rig. I'd just about be willing to bet that whatever you get won't be the last digital camera you will want.

Hold out, man. It's only going to get better... and cheaper! --PW

 

[dgrogers]

Because you can get a cheap starter lens and add better lenses after your account recovers. I would love a D60 with a Tokina 24-200mm to start out with. The Tokina lens gets alot of praise, and the total price would be about $2,500.

So, are the thought police telling me I'm wrong?

Why are there so many E## owners, think they can get a
camera for around $2100. All you get is a body, no lens. Then they
think the can cut back on the qualitiy of the lens.

If you buy an excellent camera put the best glass infront of it.

The correct answer is:

"A D60 starting at $2,100 is very tempting."

These cameras do not have lens that screw on top of the
camera's len like the E##.

My Two Cents

Bill

 

[TonyK_in_Texas]

I agree with Koo. If I had the money, it would be going to a D30 or D60.

Not because of any issues with the E10. It is for features these 2 cameras have that the E10 does not.

I'm not rolling in money so I stick with the best camera in the price range, and that happens to be the EXX range of cameras.

Thanks,

I have been reading like crazy! Visiting other forums! Asking
questions and I am on the Edge! I have the opportunity to buy the
D1x and I have the money, but do I really need it? Maybe I am
trying to work through buyers remorse before I buy the camera. In
my mind I am trying to justify the purchase. I have a passion for
photography but I am not a Pro so I do not make a living with my
camera! Am I going to see that much difference in the Photo
Quality! I have always wanted to own a Pro Body and Lenses so is
this enough reason to buy? If I use the AF Super D Tamron 28-200
Nikon Mount lens until I can afford the Genuine Nikon Glass am I am
going to be disappointed? Is the quality with the Tamron lens and
the D1x goning to be lower than the E-20? How long will it be
before prices fall on the D1x and will it hold is value? My
opportunity for my deal ends tommorrow! No finance charge or
payments for 12 months! Can you see my deliema.

Jason
--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
Catching that special moment with a great camera

--TonyK

 

[TonyK_in_Texas]

If I were to get a D60, I would look to get a $400 to $500 lens for it. Not the best glass, but not cheap either. I'm not sure I need the L series or the IS feature. Both are good. Both are out of my price range.

The E10 is a lot of camera. It is not THE best camera. It feels 80% of my needs at the current time. I am hoping to hold on until that drops to like 50% of my needs, then switch. Maybe I'll have some $$$ saved up.

Thanks,

Why are there so many E## owners, think they can get a
camera for around $2100. All you get is a body, no lens. Then they
think the can cut back on the qualitiy of the lens.

If you buy an excellent camera put the best glass infront of it.

The correct answer is:

"A D60 starting at $2,100 is very tempting."

These cameras do not have lens that screw on top of the
camera's len like the E##.

My Two Cents

Bill

--TonyK