Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

Started Sep 24, 2007 | Discussions
cspringer Forum Pro • Posts: 19,632
Check out my earlier posts on extracting and painting

I point out where he has extracted the pictures. You can then add light and mist to the middle/background layers and "PAINT" the subjects.

You can see the extraction at the left of the tree (straight vertical line) and how he cloned the tree/bush in the background 3 times.

Find a great tree and pose some children.
Extract them and find a new background if needed.
Add mist and lighting to that background, not the subjects.
"Paint" the subjects but not the tree/background.

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joeiscoffee wrote:

Interesting photo session here. From the artist, AndRe Arment:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6311702
"Rarindra is My friend, some time we taken photos at the same place
and the same time. There's no special technique, we just lucky here
have good ligthing maybe ligthing like that only at tropical
countries like Indonesia."

So is this the story of the mist and light rays? That they are
natural atmospherics that occur almost daily in this magical place?
And that Rarindra and Andre perhaps enhance in pp but do not create
with overlays and gradients?

Wizard65 Senior Member • Posts: 2,543
Re: Check out my earlier posts on extracting and painting

You are dead on with how this is done. All his images are constructed and he uses the same background over and over ... all one has to do is look ... same tree, same bush, same children, etc. I am positive these images are constructed using Photoshop and FX Mystical Lighting. I have Mystical Lighting and used it so little I uninstalled it. When this thread came up I dug it out and reinstalled it. It has the capability to do exactly what is being done in these images. That in no way distracts from his talent ... but it is pure BS that these are just everyday scenes from his "beautiful country".

wiz

cspringer Forum Pro • Posts: 19,632
Re: Check out my earlier posts on extracting and painting

Someone posted a link recently that quoted him saying how he studied art (fine art?) and combined his love of photography and art to his work...paraphrase "Some people like photographs and some people like paintings so I combined the two with editing." (or something similar). His work is fantastic and the settings are beautiful. As I mentioned before, you can do this at a picnic in Kansas or the streets of Harlem but it isn't going to have this kind of impact...ok, Harlem would look groovey.

Wizard65 wrote:

You are dead on with how this is done. All his images are
constructed and he uses the same background over and over ... all one
has to do is look ... same tree, same bush, same children, etc. I am
positive these images are constructed using Photoshop and FX Mystical
Lighting. I have Mystical Lighting and used it so little I
uninstalled it. When this thread came up I dug it out and
reinstalled it. It has the capability to do exactly what is being
done in these images. That in no way distracts from his talent ...
but it is pure BS that these are just everyday scenes from his
"beautiful country".

wiz

imqqmi Veteran Member • Posts: 8,631
Re: Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

I've shot this today. I know it isn't nearly as good as Rarindra's work but I think some what he says has some merits. I've shot this against the sun, bracketed and blended two shots in 16 bits mode for optimum dynamic range. No artificial sun streaks were added. I do miss a good subject in there though

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joeiscoffee Junior Member • Posts: 37
Re: Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

Thanks for posting this, imqqmi. We had conditions here in Tennessee the other day much like this. Rained the day before. ( a rare event these days) Cool dry air came in overnight and in the morning we had clear blue skies with mist rising. Lots of light beams like you image. Looked very much like Rarindra. Unfortunately I could not take any shots.

This is what I think. Atmospherics are capturable. And where Rarindra lives in Indonesia they probably occur on a predictable, if not daily basis. Rarindra and friends apparently shoot in a park like place with models. They know the area well and are able to essentially set up the type of shots we are seeing.

So imo Rarindra starts with very good photographic images and then works his considerable pp magic on them. His work is not, as some have suggested, all filters and adjustments. He does indeed take full advantage of the software tools available. cloning, dodging, burning, light painting etc. But his recipe is there in the original image(s).

I'm referring in the above to the Rarindra images with light beams. Many of his works do not have this feature and may contain other manipulations. Like an inserted dramatic sky etc. Wish I had half of his talent. I believe there is a lot to learn in trying to accomplish his work and style. But me, I'm no where close to achieving his "painterly" vision..

imqqmi Veteran Member • Posts: 8,631
Re: Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

I agree with your points. Over here in the Netherlands these conditions are not uncommon during autumn and spring. One has to really look for those days when the layer of mist is thin enough to let the sun shine through though. Today I was double lucky, it is weekend and it was sunny and misty I've done my best to come close to what Rarindra does in his shots, picking a clearing in a park with darkness under the trees and a few sun rays shining through the canopy. I shot with a 18-50mm lens and a 100-400. The one below is with the 100-400 at 100mm f/4.5. Still not able to get a good subject (most were sleeping off their saterday morning hang over ;).

At least I have some nice backgrounds to put a subject in

Yes, Indonesia has a very humid clime, I think 100% humidity isn't uncommon there.

Thanks to Rarindra and all here discussing his work, I know what to look for next time.

Cheers!

joeiscoffee wrote:

Thanks for posting this, imqqmi. We had conditions here in Tennessee
the other day much like this. Rained the day before. ( a rare event
these days) Cool dry air came in overnight and in the morning we had
clear blue skies with mist rising. Lots of light beams like you
image. Looked very much like Rarindra. Unfortunately I could not take
any shots.

This is what I think. Atmospherics are capturable. And where Rarindra
lives in Indonesia they probably occur on a predictable, if not daily
basis. Rarindra and friends apparently shoot in a park like place
with models. They know the area well and are able to essentially set
up the type of shots we are seeing.

So imo Rarindra starts with very good photographic images and then
works his considerable pp magic on them. His work is not, as some
have suggested, all filters and adjustments. He does indeed take full
advantage of the software tools available. cloning, dodging, burning,
light painting etc. But his recipe is there in the original image(s).

I'm referring in the above to the Rarindra images with light beams.
Many of his works do not have this feature and may contain other
manipulations. Like an inserted dramatic sky etc. Wish I had half of
his talent. I believe there is a lot to learn in trying to accomplish
his work and style. But me, I'm no where close to achieving his
"painterly" vision..

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Re: pamtorials...

Nice...

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Re: Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

Adding Rays of Light
http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/rays/rays.htm
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nhaigh New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Ooops...Rarindra style workflow updated : )

I found your tutorial fascinating but I could not follow, I'm no novice at photoshop but got stuck on this one : 0 ( shame

Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
nhaigh...

nhaigh wrote:

I found your tutorial fascinating but I could not follow, I'm no
novice at photoshop but got stuck on this one : 0 ( shame

Let me know where you got stuck and I'll pull you out ; ) E-mail me if you'd like, address is in my profile.

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Dave....

I haven't looked at the link yet, but I've got to say that I LOVE your signature image! That is funny!

Kevin OReilly Forum Member • Posts: 86
Re: pamtorials...

tagging

Kosi Regular Member • Posts: 116
Re: Rarindra style workflow...

thanks a lot for this
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Marking this...beautiful work! N/T
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Re: Rarindra style workflow...thanks for posting...

Thanks for posting, I must try this sometime.
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Roberta F. Senior Member • Posts: 2,054
Thanks Pam...amazing! (nt)
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Jose Morales Forum Member • Posts: 70
Re: Trying it out...

Hello Pam,

Great job! How did you get the lights to look that way? Any hints?

Regards.

Pam R wrote:

Adding a few light rays and playing with the tonality...

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Ciao,

JoseM

Kent C Forum Pro • Posts: 25,803
Re: Trying it out...

Jose Morales wrote:

Hello Pam,

Great job! How did you get the lights to look that way? Any hints?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=24971754

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Jose Morales Forum Member • Posts: 70
Trying it out... Thanks Kent! Just switch to flat view :)

Thank you so much Pam for a great tutorial!

JM

Kent C wrote:

Jose Morales wrote:

Hello Pam,

Great job! How did you get the lights to look that way? Any hints?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1006&message=24971754

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Ciao,

JoseM

Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
Thank you, Kent...Enjoy, Jose! (nt)
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