Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

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Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
Re: Thanks for the tutorial Pam R!

Haha! I was also thinking something along those same lines. : ) Maybe I'll try it. Nice job, Pictus!

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Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
For comparision...

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but it's not often you can see and compare 2 versions of an artist's work:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5140519&size=lg

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/574065/display/5964618

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Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
Re: My favourite photogapher...............

Very nice, Rarin....errrr.......Ray! You are only missing the rays. I recently recorded a routine for rendering rays, Ray. Give it a run ; )

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RayGuselli
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Re: My favourite photogapher...............PAM

Many thanks.

I must do the rays as you say.....

It is another great tutorial from you and once again, many thanks for taking the time to do one.

I downloaded your other tut and this is great!!!

Very best wishes

Ray

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Kent C Forum Pro • Posts: 25,803
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Re: For comparision...

Pam R wrote:

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but it's not often you can see
and compare 2 versions of an artist's work:

Good find. I was on both sites last night but didn't check out all. Truly unique and interesting. I put them on top of each other in just the browser and about 50 clicks later I'm seeing only the changes in luminosity(and saturation) and perhaps some blurring(sharpening in the smaller image). And the changes in luminosity seem to follow a luminosity type mask - ie. he's still 'following' the light - whether he did in the original is another matter...

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5140519&size=lg

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/574065/display/5964618

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Bob Walters Senior Member • Posts: 2,039
That's what I was gonna' say..................

waspo wrote:

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1. written to seperat with the color-balance like already the depths,
middles and heights colored and painted the dog and the person freely
via mask. The total over several levels and turned back (only dog and
person with color-balance-level equipped) also once.

2. A neutral gray level, level-mode, produced (new level - > fills
gray as well): multiplies" "vice-versa and then covers this level
with a mask. Now, one can then become this something the sunbeams
with brush into the Bildzeichnen.

3. With depths / lights one little experiments...

3a. A la "hammer effect, via dodge and burn a little light / shadow
of the picture paints, like 2. Or with Abwedler / Nachbelichter)

4. To the conclusion again with the Frabbalance played until it fits.

5. Size, sharpness, frameworks... you already know

No wonder people have trouble learning all the nooks and crannies of Photoshop.

How do I get to the Frabalance menu?

LOL

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JensR Forum Pro • Posts: 17,950
Thanks...

...as I said, not my style in the shown strength. But very good to know the methods. I guess using some of the steps you so nicely outlined (but not to full extent) would create images that I'd agree with. I might try one day

Cheers and thanks again.
Jens

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HandShakes Regular Member • Posts: 175
Re: Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

The style looks like Maxfield Parrish meets Norman Rockwell in Indonesia...

; )

Freddo

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Re: Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?
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Re: Dramatic lighting...
Denise McNickle Contributing Member • Posts: 864
Re: Ooops...Rarindra style workflow updated : )

Awesome Pam.

Thanks for this information.

-Denise

Diane B Forum Pro • Posts: 20,694
Outstanding tutorial Pam....

I've seen Rarinda's work on photo.net many times---and knew that it was painstakingly done with both probably an interestingly originally lit photo plus a lot of PS work. However, I really have never analyzed it--and certainly have never tried it. I may just have to try Pam's terrific very carefully shown steps and see for myself.

Very well done Pam. I always look for your threads or posts--among others' posts that I know will be enlightening (no pus intentionally made LOL).
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Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
Re: Thanks...

JensR wrote:

...as I said, not my style in the shown strength. But very good to
know the methods. I guess using some of the steps you so nicely
outlined (but not to full extent) would create images that I'd agree
with

Hi Jens,

The more tools in your box, the better. Then you can use them for seasoning, like salt and pepper (I have a talent for mixing metaphors). If there are details missing you would like to know, don't hesistate to ask. I concentrated the steps used because:

1- it was getting late

2- I didn't want to bore people with detail that had little to do with the Rarindra-type points

btw - I love your quote : )

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Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
Re: Ooops...Rarindra style workflow updated : )

You're welcome, Denise. Have fun!

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Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
Re: Outstanding tutorial Pam....

Diane B wrote:

LOL!

I love your excellent "Behind Diana's Pavilion/Vista" at the Biltmore! Gorgeous. We were there several months ago. It's an amazing place. I had no idea it was that huge. May I bring it out into the open?

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cspringer Forum Pro • Posts: 19,632
The "painterly" effect and "extraction" layers

yes...the extraction of the elements are very visible. Placing the lighting "behind the "front" extraction is very important too. The "painterly" edit is just as important. You can tell by some attempts that keeping it as a "photo" vs. an illustration/painting does not result in the same look.

Dave Jaseck wrote:

On this one, and if so, how many others. If you zoom in on the
backside of the boys legs on the right, you'll see a bit of lighter
pixels along his leg which are lighter than the overall background
indicating an extract or selection of sorts. If this is the case,
gives him a lot of latitude with what he does with the background,
blur, color, saturation etc. If he does this on others, this guy
must spend a lot of time on those images which are brilliant non the
less. But I still think the kids are actors for him and well posed.
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JensR Forum Pro • Posts: 17,950
Re: Thanks...

Hi Pam!

The more tools in your box, the better. Then you can use them for
seasoning, like salt and pepper (I have a talent for mixing
metaphors).

Yes. Correct. But, to stay with the metaphor, I tend to stay with "the known" too often. For example, my wide variety of pasta with tomato sauces is quite decent, but neither do I exploit the spices fully, nor do I branch out into other cooking :-/

If there are details missing you would like to know,
don't hesistate to ask.

Thanks very much! After browsing through your pbase gallery I think I might have to dig for some more Pamtorials in the archives But after that I might ask a thing or two.

I'm currently working hard (for my average) on shots of the recent IAA (I might even post some here when "done") and I've seen a few things in your gallery I might try after that

btw - I love your quote : )

Thanks Yours is more philosophical, and still carries a lot of truth.

Cheers
Jens

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Wizard65 Senior Member • Posts: 2,543
Re: For comparision...

Go to the original site from the original poster ... look carefully ... you will see many instances of the same scene worked differently and in some cases the same background with different players (foreground). One thing is for sure ... this guy really know his way around Photoshop. Having said that ... you are no slouch yourself, Pam. Your very first attempt to duplicate his process was truly outstanding for a first stab. I think you have it down cold and will perfect it in no time. Look forward to your future endeavors. Cheers ...

wiz

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