Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

Started Sep 24, 2007 | Discussions
waspo Regular Member • Posts: 145
Re: love this thread and his work

Wow, those images are AMAZING!!!
I'd also really love to know what technique is used to accomplish this.
For starters, how do you get the lighting effect?
I found a site where another person has managed to create similar images.
http://www.fotocommunity.com/forum/read.php?f=51&i=132&t=132

Sandra Le is her name. Perhaps she can devoldge some of her knowledge onto us.
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Re: One more try...

Yes, that's certainly in the ballpark.
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Re: One more try...

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Clickandfun Forum Member • Posts: 52
Re: love this thread and his work

...or someone could translate her workflow :-DD

1. wie schon geschrieben mit der Farbbalance die Tiefen, Mitten und Höhen seperat gefärbt und via Maske den Hund und die Person frei gepinselt. Das Ganze über mehrere Ebenen und auch mal umgekehrt(nur Hund und Person mit Farbbalance-Ebene versehen).

2. Eine neutrale graue Ebene erstellt(neue Ebene-> füllen mit grau), Ebenenmodus: "umgekehrt multiplizieren" und dann diese Ebene mit einer Maske verdeckt. Nun kann man diese mit Pinsel ins Bildzeichnen was dann die Sonnenstrahlen werden.

3. Mit Tiefen/Lichter ein wenig experimentieren...

3a. a la "Hammer Effekt) via dodge and burn ein wenig Licht/Schatten ins Bild malen(wie 2. oder mit Abwedler/Nachbelichter)

4. Zum Abschluss nocheinmal mit der Frabbalance gespielt bis es passt.

5. Größe, Schärfen, Rahmen... ihr wisst schon

waspo Regular Member • Posts: 145
Re: love this thread and his work

Clickandfun wrote:

...or someone could translate her workflow :-DD

1. wie schon geschrieben mit der Farbbalance die Tiefen, Mitten und
Höhen seperat gefärbt und via Maske den Hund und die Person frei
gepinselt. Das Ganze über mehrere Ebenen und auch mal umgekehrt(nur
Hund und Person mit Farbbalance-Ebene versehen).

2. Eine neutrale graue Ebene erstellt(neue Ebene-> füllen mit grau),
Ebenenmodus: "umgekehrt multiplizieren" und dann diese Ebene mit
einer Maske verdeckt. Nun kann man diese mit Pinsel ins Bildzeichnen
was dann die Sonnenstrahlen werden.

3. Mit Tiefen/Lichter ein wenig experimentieren...

3a. a la "Hammer Effekt) via dodge and burn ein wenig Licht/Schatten
ins Bild malen(wie 2. oder mit Abwedler/Nachbelichter)

4. Zum Abschluss nocheinmal mit der Frabbalance gespielt bis es passt.

5. Größe, Schärfen, Rahmen... ihr wisst schon

Well, I threw it in my translator and here's what came out:

1. written to seperat with the color-balance like already the depths, middles and heights colored and painted the dog and the person freely via mask. The total over several levels and turned back (only dog and person with color-balance-level equipped) also once.

2. A neutral gray level, level-mode, produced (new level - > fills gray as well): multiplies" "vice-versa and then covers this level with a mask. Now, one can then become this something the sunbeams with brush into the Bildzeichnen.

3. With depths / lights one little experiments...

3a. A la "hammer effect, via dodge and burn a little light / shadow of the picture paints, like 2. Or with Abwedler / Nachbelichter)

4. To the conclusion again with the Frabbalance played until it fits.

5. Size, sharpness, frameworks... you already know

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Denise McNickle Contributing Member • Posts: 864
Lighting effects ?

Pam that is very good.

How do you get the lighting effects? I have never tried that before and this thread is getting very inspiring.

-Denise

Dave Jaseck
OP Dave Jaseck Veteran Member • Posts: 6,152
Re: Dave

There could well be some effects like that, but from what I think I know is, that he did not just walk around with his camera and stumble into these lovely scenes. They were thought out and planned. I think the jungles and woods of the areas offer some splendid scenery or backdrop, then he added the actors all at the right time of day for light to filter in. From there it went into ps and certain areas were manipulated. The golden light, dark shadows accentuated them and from there it's anyones guess, at least those are my thoughts at this point in time.
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Denise McNickle Contributing Member • Posts: 864
Re: Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

Do you think he may be using Mystical Lighting by Auto FX or a method similar to it?

If you look at the Mystical Lighting website, there is an example of feathering light through trees.

Just a thought

http://www.autofx.com/products/MysticalLighting/detail.html

-Denise

Dave Jaseck
OP Dave Jaseck Veteran Member • Posts: 6,152
This was my only try at this kind of look

Done some time ago, think someone wrote an action or at least outlined the process. Can't remember how I did, of course, with my memory, I can't remember where I was last week. This is in no way suggesting this is my attempt at his technique.
http://www.pbase.com/davidjaseck/image/86199116
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Denise McNickle Contributing Member • Posts: 864
Re: This was my only try at this kind of look

Dave that is great. Have you used the Mystical Lighing plugin from AutofX?

-Denise

Dave Jaseck wrote:

Done some time ago, think someone wrote an action or at least
outlined the process. Can't remember how I did, of course, with my
memory, I can't remember where I was last week. This is in no way
suggesting this is my attempt at his technique.
http://www.pbase.com/davidjaseck/image/86199116
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Dave Jaseck
OP Dave Jaseck Veteran Member • Posts: 6,152
I have an action by Bill Miller that creates lights beam

I found it in my collection of photoshop actions. Goes back a way and requires some massaging to get the effect and was what I used on this image. If you would like a copy send me an email. As for Autofx Mystical lighting, was not impressed with it that much from their demo, not to mention cost. I think it would be more satisfying to create your stuff using photoshop tools.
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cspringer Forum Pro • Posts: 19,632
You can see a poor edit on this one...

notice the the blending of two layers at the left of the tree.
I'm not sure if the background is Lensblur...the haze might be changine
the lensblur filter character.

You can download one of his pictures and sample the color. Add it as a layer with a mask. Try different layer blend modes and opacites and then bring back some color in the subjects with the mask.

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/6704720

Dave Jaseck wrote:

Some really great stuff here!!! Some of it with a point and shoot
cam. Great post processing, wouldn't mind looking over his shoulder.
http://photo.net/photos/rarindra
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cspringer Forum Pro • Posts: 19,632
merged pics?

If I had to guess, I would say the tree and children are extracted to a new background.

cspringer wrote:
notice the the blending of two layers at the left of the tree.
I'm not sure if the background is Lensblur...the haze might be changine
the lensblur filter character.

You can download one of his pictures and sample the color. Add it as
a layer with a mask. Try different layer blend modes and opacites and
then bring back some color in the subjects with the mask.

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/display/6704720

Dave Jaseck wrote:

Some really great stuff here!!! Some of it with a point and shoot
cam. Great post processing, wouldn't mind looking over his shoulder.
http://photo.net/photos/rarindra
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selwynbr Senior Member • Posts: 1,541
Re: I have an action by Bill Miller that creates lights beam

One of mine I did a while back using Bill Miller's action

Dave Jaseck
OP Dave Jaseck Veteran Member • Posts: 6,152
You're probably right

On this one, and if so, how many others. If you zoom in on the backside of the boys legs on the right, you'll see a bit of lighter pixels along his leg which are lighter than the overall background indicating an extract or selection of sorts. If this is the case, gives him a lot of latitude with what he does with the background, blur, color, saturation etc. If he does this on others, this guy must spend a lot of time on those images which are brilliant non the less. But I still think the kids are actors for him and well posed.
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Pam R Veteran Member • Posts: 3,421
Dramatic lighting...

I think I found a more appropriate image to work on. A lot of the effect comes from dramatic lighting in the original:

Before:

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Vernon D Rainwater Forum Pro • Posts: 13,918
Re: Does this Photographer know some stuff or what?

Dave Jaseck wrote:

Some really great stuff here!!! Some of it with a point and shoot
cam. Great post processing, wouldn't mind looking over his shoulder.
http://photo.net/photos/rarindra
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http://www.pbase.com/davidjaseck/panopictures
http://www.pbase.com/davidjaseck/photoart

Appears to have a good technique for using Filters -- either at time of exposure or during Post processing.

I had to chuckle when I saw your "Log Off" warning. It almost worked for me but since the time was over a year, it wouldn't function -- [Grin]....
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Dave Jaseck
OP Dave Jaseck Veteran Member • Posts: 6,152
I'd say you are about there
Dave Jaseck
OP Dave Jaseck Veteran Member • Posts: 6,152
If you think this thread is of interest here check this out!

From the Canon SLR 20/30/40D forum. Lot of people there want their pictures perfect, straight out of the camera, no post processing (not everyone,2 camps here). One comment said the mans work looked like a Elvis painting on black velvet!
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=24948100
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