Congratulations, A-mounters!! A worthy addition.

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Sol Veteran Member • Posts: 3,426
Congratulations, A-mounters!! A worthy addition.

It looks like we got a truly worthy addition, to the A-mount legacy.

Can't wait to see and hear Phil's and others impressions of the high ISO performance on this new camera. The 1/8000 rocks, as well as the 1/250 sync speed.

Most of the other specs looks like they're right in line with a camera that truly wants to compete head to head with the other models in this class. It should do well.

And a quick 'thank you' to Sony for christening it with the '7' moniker. Nice tip of the hat to those Minolta engineers. Looks like a nice team effort by all there under the new Sony roof.

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José B
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Re: Congratulations, A-mounters!! A worthy addition.

A huge congratulations from me too.

If I was still shooting with a 7D system I would have placed an order already. Love the LCD, the dual slots and of course the 12MP---lots of cropping power there.

Cheers,

José

Sol wrote:

It looks like we got a truly worthy addition, to the A-mount legacy.

Can't wait to see and hear Phil's and others impressions of the high
ISO performance on this new camera. The 1/8000 rocks, as well as the
1/250 sync speed.
Most of the other specs looks like they're right in line with a
camera that truly wants to compete head to head with the other models
in this class. It should do well.

And a quick 'thank you' to Sony for christening it with the '7'
moniker. Nice tip of the hat to those Minolta engineers. Looks like a
nice team effort by all there under the new Sony roof.

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VDG Senior Member • Posts: 1,288
Re: Congratulations, A-mounters!! A worthy addition.- INDEED!

Looks very promising and ticks all the right boxes.. on paper.
Now I want to know about new lenses and see COLOURS and high ISO images..

My guess is that A700 will ship almost immediately poss as early as beginning of October, can't wait for new lenses announcement..

Whopper Contributing Member • Posts: 754
Re: Congratulations, A-mounters!! A worthy addition.

G'day All,

Well, i have just seen the specs and the video presentation and i'm happy sofar. The A-700 looks like a good camera. Now i'm really curious about the A-900 or whatever they will name it.

Regards,

Rob

Darrin Behm Senior Member • Posts: 2,510
Sure does look good.

Hey Sol

I does look good and I am also glad to see the 700 in the name. I started Minolta with the old X700...who knows you know where I stand with my DSLR collection. I haven't had a Minolta/Sony yet. LOL!

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Matt Cham Veteran Member • Posts: 4,120
Looking good indeed

The dual cross AF sensor (whatever that really means) is a step in the
right direction. They need to cram the Pro camera full of cross sensors.

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Totally agree Sol

Thanks for the positive post!

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PhotoTraveler Forum Pro • Posts: 11,700
The Name

The name makes me very happy. I'm so glad Sony came to their senses.

Now I can continue the 7 life style.

X700 -> 7D -> A700

Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 19,820
Re: Congratulations, A-mounters!! A worthy addition.

From what I have seen so far, I think, the A700 looks very good. Of course, I am reserving judgment until I see how it actually performs (vs. paper specs) and the price.

Many of the specs aren't so important to me, but these are:

  • A bit smaller and lighter than the KM 7D and Canon 30D. I owned the 7D and currently own the 30D. For many uses I like the size and weight just fine, but for backpack travel, which is the most important use for me, they were both a little too big and heavy. I have the A100 too and for travel its size and weight are wonderful, unfortunately it has other problems.

  • AF improvements. I don't need state of the art AF speed and tracking (it's nice to have though), but reasonable speed with accuracy at all focal lengths is very important. We'll see if the A700 finally fixes the KM 7D and Sony A100 problems.

  • High ISO improvements. This, also, we must wait and see, but rumors are that it is much improved.

  • SSS is claimed to be improved also. The KM 7D and Sony A100 SSS is quite nice, but if it has been improved further then I would be happy.

  • Better viewfinder.

  • AF/MF button. I like the custom function 4 on the Canon 30D that delinks AF from the shutter release and maps it instead to the * button by the right thumb. The KM 7D's rear AF/MF button, while not quite as nice, was still pretty good. I'm glad it is back. After using the A100 for awhile this was the #1 reason I gave it to my wife, plus the fact that she desperately wanted it.

  • RGB histogram.

I won't be one of the first ones to buy one. I will definitely hold off and hear from other users, but in a few months I will certainly give it serious consideration.

  • New DRO might be very nice. It is allowed in RAW now so I am very interested to see what it can do.

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OP Sol Veteran Member • Posts: 3,426
Agreed, Henry. Lots of good numbers, . . .

but need to see performance.

The return of 1/8000 shutter speed is a huge welcome back in my book, for shooting shallow depth of field outdoors in brighter sunlight.

And the 1/250 flash sync is another huge plus for me. Although, I am still hoping for 1/350 or more on the upcoming Flagship.

At the moment, I might could be lured in by some outstanding high-ISO performance with the A700. But mostly likely, I'll still be waiting it out for the FF 'Flagship'.

Most importantly for me, is that today's revelations are showing us the kind of DSLR Sony is going to be putting out there to challenge the competition. I think they have a winner here.

Henry Richardson wrote:

From what I have seen so far, I think, the A700 looks very good. Of
course, I am reserving judgment until I see how it actually performs
(vs. paper specs) and the price.

Many of the specs aren't so important to me, but these are:

  • A bit smaller and lighter than the KM 7D and Canon 30D. I owned

the 7D and currently own the 30D. For many uses I like the size and
weight just fine, but for backpack travel, which is the most
important use for me, they were both a little too big and heavy. I
have the A100 too and for travel its size and weight are wonderful,
unfortunately it has other problems.

  • AF improvements. I don't need state of the art AF speed and

tracking (it's nice to have though), but reasonable speed with
accuracy at all focal lengths is very important. We'll see if the
A700 finally fixes the KM 7D and Sony A100 problems.

  • High ISO improvements. This, also, we must wait and see, but

rumors are that it is much improved.

  • SSS is claimed to be improved also. The KM 7D and Sony A100 SSS is

quite nice, but if it has been improved further then I would be happy.

  • Better viewfinder.

  • AF/MF button. I like the custom function 4 on the Canon 30D that

delinks AF from the shutter release and maps it instead to the *
button by the right thumb. The KM 7D's rear AF/MF button, while not
quite as nice, was still pretty good. I'm glad it is back. After
using the A100 for awhile this was the #1 reason I gave it to my
wife, plus the fact that she desperately wanted it.

  • RGB histogram.

I won't be one of the first ones to buy one. I will definitely hold
off and hear from other users, but in a few months I will certainly
give it serious consideration.

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José B
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The A900 will be awesome but the A700 is continuation of the legend

and can stand on its own. Love the way Sony looks after the Minolta crowd and came out with camera that should be worthy of the '7' badge.

Cheers,

José

Whopper wrote:

G'day All,

Well, i have just seen the specs and the video presentation and i'm
happy sofar. The A-700 looks like a good camera. Now i'm really
curious about the A-900 or whatever they will name it.

Regards,

Rob

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OP Sol Veteran Member • Posts: 3,426
Agreed, Jose. Lots of '7' in the mix.

Lots of references to the '7' legacy in the hands-on preview. That's good news. It means that the Sony team has looked at, and listened to, what made Minolta one of the 'Big Three' back in it's day. They have adhered to certain design philosophies, while still moving the design forward.

Minolta's engineers have always designed good cameras. Unfortunately, the business decisions were less thought out in later years.

José B wrote:
and can stand on its own. Love the way Sony looks after the Minolta
crowd and came out with camera that should be worthy of the '7' badge.

Cheers,

José

Whopper wrote:

G'day All,

Well, i have just seen the specs and the video presentation and i'm
happy sofar. The A-700 looks like a good camera. Now i'm really
curious about the A-900 or whatever they will name it.

Regards,

Rob

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Olles Regular Member • Posts: 174
Re: Congratulations, A-mounters!! A worthy addition.

Hi I stated some time ago in a post what I would like and what I would get from the new Sony Camera:

Below my post with what I wantet - (added by what I got):

What do I want from Sonys new DSLR for the "advanced amateur":
» 12 Mpix (wouldn't make sense to have less since the A100 had 10)

» YES

» very decent low noise levels at ISO 800 (I don't demand impossible things)

» NOT SURE

» rugged design (sorry, but the A100 feels definitely not rugged)

» YES

» lots of dedicated buttons (like 7D)

» YES

» PC-Sync

» YES

» UDMA Support for CF with option to store raw and jpg separately on different cards

» (NOT SURE YET ?!)

» possibility to directly store images to Notebook and view there (anybody using the dimage transfer software too, this was one of the outstanding features for the 7D at that time...) WiFi for it would be very nice to, but if it's still USB cable

» YES!!!!!!!!

» large bright viewfinder (I wouldn't need the pop-up flash...)

» YES

» at least 5 crosstype autofocs sensors, better 7 with large coverage

» PARTLY (the xtra long f2.8 sensor seems interesting though)

» Framerate 4 fps (I am not a sport shooter) and Buffer for at least 20 images (raw+jpg) - storing 2 images/second on card

» PARTLY (5fps but just 12 Raw+jpg)

» 3" LCD with at least 400k resolution

» YES

» RGB Histogramm

» YES!!!!!!

» active dust reduction (ultrasonic)

» NO????????

» flash sync of 1/250 (with SSS on)

» YES (well nearly, at least 1/200 or wo sss)

» interchanchangeable focusing screens to mount one for MF

» YES!!!!!!!!!!!

» battery pack for AA rechageables (1,2V) with long runtime (> 500 Shoots with PC-sync on for studio flash)

» PARTLY - long runtime maybe, but no AA Bateries

I said:

If I get this below € 2000 I am surely in. If I get 3/4 of the above points for less then € 1800 then I am still in.

I am IN be happy

What I would like but for sure not get:

» good ISO 1600 performance

» NOT SURE

» AF microadjustment

» NO

» 1/8000 sec

» YES

» LCD status Screen (reduce TFT usage)

» NO

» weather sealing

» YES

What probably will I get but don't need:

» face detection

» NO (good!

» live view on a 230K screen (not really useable)

» NO (good! - why would you by a DSLR with a good Viewfinder then???

» Possibility to use Memorystick

» YES

HO-HO-HO

This camera brings me: 13 YES, 4 NO (of which 2 are good), 3 PARTLY and 3 NOT SURE of what I wanted!!!

And the key features - tethered shooting, PC-Sync, 1/8000 and interchangeable focusing sceen are all there!!!!!!!

This is my camera, finally came out what I was waiting for so long!

SONY - GOOD JOB!

kojikin Regular Member • Posts: 185
FPS question

Awesome new camera! Congrats!
(I'm from nikon)

But one thing bugs me about the A700. Assuming that the A700 uses the sensor announced a few weeks ago, wouldn't it be shooting at a max of 10 FPS?
In the preview, it says it only goes up to 5FPS. What's going on?

Is the 10 FPS feature being saved for the flagship model?

OP Sol Veteran Member • Posts: 3,426
For the 'Flagship' is my guess. :-) n/t

kojikin wrote:

Awesome new camera! Congrats!
(I'm from nikon)

But one thing bugs me about the A700. Assuming that the A700 uses
the sensor announced a few weeks ago, wouldn't it be shooting at a
max of 10 FPS?
In the preview, it says it only goes up to 5FPS. What's going on?

Is the 10 FPS feature being saved for the flagship model?

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if the 100% zoom button on their computers, was permanently disabled.'
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Buttoneer Regular Member • Posts: 403
Now we just need cheaper lenses for our A-Holes. (nt)

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splugnut2000 Regular Member • Posts: 351
Re: Congratulations, A-mounters!! A worthy addition.

have to agree, many people bemoaning lack of liveview/gps etc, but i never use those anyway. I just need a solid successor to my 7D and this looks like the one. as I dont recall too many problems with the first A100s (feel free to correct me here) i'm pretty keen on pre-ordering, just need sonystyle uk to get the thing up on their site.....when you're ready guys!

splug

moire Senior Member • Posts: 1,886
Re: FPS question

kojikin wrote:

Awesome new camera! Congrats!
(I'm from nikon)

But one thing bugs me about the A700. Assuming that the A700 uses
the sensor announced a few weeks ago, wouldn't it be shooting at a
max of 10 FPS?
In the preview, it says it only goes up to 5FPS. What's going on?

Is the 10 FPS feature being saved for the flagship model?

probably due to AS/SSS and reduce cost of the shutter system

JusGene Veteran Member • Posts: 4,258
Sony site pre-order now @ $100 off for Sept date [nt]
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Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 19,820
flagship is expected to be full frame nt
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