First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

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Paul Spatafora Contributing Member • Posts: 930
First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

I recently purchased the Efillink CIS after looking at several other units. I looked at the Ink Republic, Ink Jet Fly, MIS and Media Street units. I was really leaning on the Ink Republic unit because of its reputation. I really didn't like the any of these units because of the way they sit besides the printer and the layout of the bottles. Kinda bush league looking. By accident, I ran into the Efillink unit. It “looked” complete. The ink is located in a self contained unit with a monitoring and pumping station. From a technical point of view, it “looked” well thought out and polished. The bonus was that it uses the Image Specialist inks as well and this ink seems to have a good track record for permanence. After discussing the use of the unit with Efillink, I finally purchased it.

Installation

The unit was surprisingly easy to put together. My greatest fear was mess everywhere and the spongeless carts leaking. If you watch the video on the website, the preliminary installation of the ink ribbon and carts in the printer were quite straight forward. The next step was to feed the ink into each reservoir. The directions were not clear enough as to how much you can insert in it so I was conservative and only put in a small amount. I realized later that I could have put in the entire 4oz. in the ink reservoirs all at once. This is important because I pumped in ink 3 times and doing this might have the potential to make a mistake. Using the syringe to vacuum the ink through the ribbon was very good without any mess. I had to make sure that the pop it valve was reseated after the bleeding of the ink into the carts.

The only complaint I had with this procedure was that the information for the installation was not in one convenient location. I expressed my concern about this to Efillink. To there credit we were able to correspond in real time to resolve any issue. So now I completed the installation and to my surprise, I did not have any leaking or major surprises. The bloody thing was working.

First Print

The package did not come with instructions and the video only covered the mechanical installation but not what to do after this step was completed. I emailed Efillink and they sent me an additional set of instructions. I did a few cleanings and did a couple of purges to get the bubbles out. The first print I did looked good. I tried several others and then I was getting some blobbing and smearing to the point I had to stop. Panic! I emailed them again, and was instructed to setup the unit by ensuring the plugs were sealing for the ink and to put the ink station on its pedestal. The pedestal is important because it sets the ink at the correct height in relationship to the cartridges. Something to do about siphon pressures and other gobble de-gook. It was explained that the unit needed to have the pressures equalized and that I should just leave the unit over night.

The next morning, I fired up the printer and made a print. I did this to see if the heads were clogged. The print came out perfectly. No smearing, or bleeding. Just a nice print. Man was I happy. Went out and shot a wedding that day and when I came home, I printed another image just to make sure that it wasn't a fluke and sure enough another perfect print. I use IJA Micro Ceramic Luster.

If you are doing production work, the printer MUST be profiled. I'm getting a slight magenta cast compared to the Epson ink I used before. It's enough to see for my liking and needs correcting. The other thing that improved the printing was doing a head alignment. I found that this also helped allot. I have however figured out how to get a decent color corrected photo by manually adjusting the printer settings. To get rid of the magenta cast, I did the following: C+10, Y+3. This is a good work around until I get my paper profiled.
Technical Support

The one thing that I found with the Efillink CIS was the superb technical support I got. Ronnie was there to help at every step. I choose to install the unit myself without any helps but when I ran into an issue he called me and we discussed the matter right away. I'm sure he's not going to be able to do that for everyone, but the support was there.

Caveats

There are several things that could have been done to make the process better. The first is to have complete instructions located in one convenient location. The other is that the fill station uses batteries instead of a dedicated power supply. When I mentioned this to Efillink, they told me that due to specific country regulations, batteries were the only choice. I can understand this. I found a 4.5 volt transformer that I will be adapting to the unit to get rid of the batteries. Several things that you also have to look for is not to fill the tanks to the top. Apparently this is the cause of the blobbing I mentioned before. The other issue that I would have like to see is some generic profiles or settings for popular papers such as the Epsons or IJA. But when I went to the other Image specialist ink providers, no one had any profiles either.

I wrote this because I found very few reviews of the CIS's other than complaints, whining or praise. There seems to be a lot of interest in products such as this, but little to go on except great product, or bad product. So far, the Efillink CIS has exceeded my expectations in the following areas:

No Clogging
No leaking
No jamming

I was surprised at the color shift but I was reminded that this is NOT Epson ink and that adjustments need to be made. Also, comparing the ink cost between the sellers, Efllink is also more economical.

I have no affiliation with this company except being a happy customer.

I hope people find this a balance report of the product and I hope this helps anyone considering buying a CIS in the future. http://www.efillink.com/

Paul

WillPaulR New Member • Posts: 8
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

I have been using refillable cartridges I bought from Efillink.com. After some trial and error, I finally have them working without any problems. They work just fine but it still takes some time to get back up and going after a cartridge needs refilling again. You can easily empty the cartridges just on a head cleans or by turning it off and on a few times. By the time you have got one of the cartridges working, one of the other cartridges would then be empty. So you refill another one and then the printer sucks more ink seating in that newly filled cartridge, then once it is going, you find one of the others nearly empty again. Sounds like the CIS would be the right thing to have. The Epson 2200 loves wasting ink and of course that's how they makes there money. I ordered the efillink CIS and am hoping other users for this CIS system can share their experiences with me. I’m not a professional, just a hobbyist who enjoys working with Photoshop and doing my family stuff. If any one can screw up the CIS installation, it will be me for sure. I have an Epson Stylus Photo 2200 and I really love the color it produces with the Epson Ultrachrome inks. I use ILFORD smooth pearl paper and use their color profiles which give me very good color results. I have recently only received the inks and cartridges from Efillink and I’m still waiting for the CIS to arrive. I started to use some of the inks Efillink sent me to refill some of my cartridges. My prints look good. To me the prints look almost identical when printed on ILFORD paper with their ICC profiles! I'm very satisfied with the color of my prints so far. Re-filling ink cartridges has worked for me and have had no problems with the cartridges, inks, and the good support that Ronnie at Efillink has provided me. I only want to change to a CIS for convenience.

WillPaulR New Member • Posts: 8
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

Good post Paul. Thanks for the great information. It will be useful when I install my CIS from Efillink.com.

Dominic.Chan Veteran Member • Posts: 6,168
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

WillPaulR wrote:

By the time you have got one of the
cartridges working, one of the other cartridges would then be
empty. So you refill another one and then the printer sucks more
ink seating in that newly filled cartridge, then once it is going,
you find one of the others nearly empty again.

Even with non-refillable cartridges, I sometimes get into this situation. It's even worse for the R1800 than the 2200, as more ink seems to be used for cleaning.

One way of addressing this problem is to replace or refill all cartridges at the same time.

Sounds like the CIS
would be the right thing to have. The Epson 2200 loves wasting ink
and of course that's how they makes there money.

For the 2200, one limitation of the CIS is that you can have only one of the two blacks (Matte Black or Photo Black) installed, and it's not really practical to switch blacks.

I am currently experimenting with a set-up that uses refillable cartridges for the blacks, and the CIS for the rest.

WillPaulR New Member • Posts: 8
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

Hi Paul,

You say

"I found a 4.5 volt transformer that I will be adapting to the unit to get rid of the batteries.

How often did you have to change the batteries? Was installing the 4.5 volt transformer difficult?

Several things that you also have to look for is not to fill the tanks to the top."

Are you suggesting that one should top the tanks only when doing the installation for the first time? Then only add ink when needed and add only enough ink until the ink low light stops flashing.

Thanks for your feedback.
Will

Paul Spatafora OP Contributing Member • Posts: 930
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

If I was going to start fresh, I would fill the ink tanks upto 3/4 full and then when you draw the ink through the ribbon, the levels will go down. I put in only 30ml for the first time and I discovered that the alarm signaled that the fluid was low. By inserting 3/4 full it gives you enough ink to start printing. With half a tank of ink for each color, you'll have plenty to go around.

If you overfill the tanks, it causes the puddling because of the pressure condition. If you are in doubt as I was, I just emailed Efill and they responded. Better yet, schedule an appointment with Ronnie, so that he knows you're going to do an installation and he'll make himself available. Do not fill the tanks to the top. THis will cause puddling.

I haven't installed the transformer, but the 3 AA batteries are 4.5 volts and I can't see this thing drawing too much current. I plan on adding the transformer next week. A 4.5 volt transformer is needed. Raid one of your kids obsolete toys and check to see what transformers are around. That's what I did.

Hope this helps.

Paul

Dominic.Chan Veteran Member • Posts: 6,168
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

Paul Spatafora wrote:

If you overfill the tanks, it causes the puddling because of the
pressure condition.

The tanks normally sit on a stand. If the ink levels are too high, lowering the tanks to the same level as the printer should eliminate the problem.

Paul Spatafora OP Contributing Member • Posts: 930
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

Dominic.Chan wrote:

Paul Spatafora wrote:

If you overfill the tanks, it causes the puddling because of the
pressure condition.

The tanks normally sit on a stand. If the ink levels are too high,
lowering the tanks to the same level as the printer should
eliminate the problem.

I forgot about that. It's still a good practice to only have them 3/4 full. Also, if you do 2 or 3 head cleans, rest the heads for ten minutes to prevent any siphoning.

Paul

Paul Spatafora OP Contributing Member • Posts: 930
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200- Follow Up Two Weeks Later

Here's a follow up the my initial review of the installation of the Efillink. com CIS for my Epson 2200 printer.

1. I had some pizza wheel issues that I finally resolved two days ago. I'm surprised that no one else has had this problem. I got the solution from this website. Nice simple solution.

http://www.customrecords.com/epson_2100_2200_ink_smear_fix.html

2. Then I got smearing from the ejection rubber rollers on my paper. I then employed this solution:

http://inksupply.helpserve.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=72&nav=0,1

This resolved the matter.

3. I have had no clogging yet. I had that problem with the Epson cart from day one. Oh happy days!!

4. The inks are slower drying. The quality of the inks is fantastic. Truly beautiful.

The Efillink CIS has exceeded my expectations and the tech support is second to none. I don't think they sleep. From a consumer point of view, I couldn't be happier. The unit is sleek, contained and very well engineered when compared to their competition and essential for the same price. All the inks come from the same source so the final decision is based on product performance and fit and function.

I'm getting my paper profiled as we speak and will report back after that.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Paul

Vlada Regular Member • Posts: 297
pizza wheel

Paul Spatafora wrote:

Here's a follow up the my initial review of the installation of the
Efillink. com CIS for my Epson 2200 printer.

1. I had some pizza wheel issues that I finally resolved two days
ago. I'm surprised that no one else has had this problem. I got the
solution from this website. Nice simple solution.

http://www.inkrepublic.com/KnowledgeBase/WheelMarks.asp
hope this helps

Paul Spatafora OP Contributing Member • Posts: 930
Efillink CIS Epson 2200 Full Circle

Since my last writing, I have been using my 2200 with the Efillink system with great success. The last component was the profiling of the printer. This step is paramount to a successful deployment of the Eillink CIS. I would imagine that this step is a must for all CIS's.

The unit itself has worked flawlessly since I started using it. To my surprise all my fears of clogging and leaking never happened. I'm still not sure about removing the newspaper from underneath the printer but I certainly have not been disappointed. The outputs match my monitor with the profiled printer. Profiling is the secret to this system.

My initial gut feeling of the system being well thought out and engineered are well founded. This CIS looks professional, acts professional and most importantly performs professionally. You get a warning when to add ink and this prevents any possibility of air entering the system. Apparently, clogging is a byproduct of air and not the ink crusting on the head. I don't have little bottles in an plastic box that my annoying kids could tip and make a mess. They know not to go near my equipment!!

Please keep in mind that the system can cause some problems and might involved getting a couple of other solutions to make this thing hum.

http://www.customrecords.com/epson_2100_2200_ink_smear_fix.html

http://inksupply.helpserve.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=72&nav=0,1

The freedom of printing at will without the dreaded flashing low ink light warning is a blessing. Print after print and for a fraction of the cost. I can now freely experiment with anything knowing that 'm not pumping out expensive ink out of those tiny little carts. The colors for the ink actually appear brighter and better than the OEM. Maybe that's because I profiled the printer. Also keep in mind that the ink being supplied is from a reputable supplier and not some off shore maker. Image Specialists is the vast supplier of ink to IR, MIS and Efillink so you also have the freedom to shop around to potentially save even more. One last thing, I found Efillink to be a better deal on ink than the other two because Efill sell 4oz bottle where the others sell 100ml which is 3.4oz's.

Anyways, I don't want to sound like a commercial for Efillink. After reading so much stuff here mostly non productive comments, I just wanted to let anyone interested in a CIS a little first hand insight. It was a fluke I found this system as I was planning on buying the IR system. Maybe someone will benefit from my fluke and have a fluke of their own.

Hope this helps.

Paul

gabrielt New Member • Posts: 1
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

I just ordered te Efillink CIS for my epson R2400. What makes me decide to purchase this product is the great reviews I read about this CIS system and the great support I get from owner Ronnie via emails. I am looking forwrd to get the system running.

JEarnhardt New Member • Posts: 2
Re: Efillink CIS Epson 2200 Full Circle
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Nature, Greeting Cards, Post Cards, and Weddings

I just purchased the Efillink from Ron. The photographs are beautiful. The only color shift I saw was one that corrected where I had been off for some time. The only concern I have are the pizza wheels. The smearing they cause has stopped where I can get the push pins in to hold them up. There are two wheels that I cannot get to stay up. They are the first and last in the left section. Do you have any suggestions. Thanks

JEarnhardt New Member • Posts: 2
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Nature, Greeting Cards, Post Cards, and Weddings

I recently purchased the CIS system from efillink. I have been very pleased with the ink and the system thus far. I had a challenge with the rollers on my printer (Epson 2200). After talking to Paul and Ron, I fixed the problem and am now Extreeeemly happy with the printer and the ink. If you would like a picture of the setup on my printer that corrects the roller marks, just email me at (simplymeltd@gmail.com) I also found that if you go into the printer Color set up and change the setting to -10 magenta and +3 yellow it will correct the magenta cast on the pictures.

Ron, with efillink, suggested that I try Red River Paper. I went on line and found that the paper was less expensive than I was able to purchase it locally. This was true even with the shipping. The ink and the paper are a great combo for making great prints.

I have also been impressed with Ron's willingness to help me every step of the way. I have never had the help from any of the other companies I have done business with.

Thanks Ron!!!!!

Joe Earnhardt
Simply ME PHOTOGraphics
Western North Carolina

WillPaulR New Member • Posts: 8
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200- Follow Up Two Weeks Later

Hi Paul,

What paper type are you using? Did you buy the inks from Efillink? Can you share the ICC profiles with me. I would really appreciate that. Thanks for you review on Efillink's CIS. I plan to install the one I have in January. It's still sitting in a box now for almost a year. I'm still using the Efillink refillable cartridges with their inks. I had health problems and have not been able to get it installed. So far all the product reviews have been very positive. It sounds like Efillink has a real winner with their CIS.

Thanks
Will

WillPaulR New Member • Posts: 8
Re: Efillink CIS Epson 2200 Full Circle

Hi Paul,
How much ink do you add when a ink low light comes on on the Efillink CIS?
Thanks
Will

thkhor Regular Member • Posts: 143
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

WillPaulR wrote:

I have been using refillable cartridges I bought from Efillink.com.
After some trial and error, I finally have them working without any
problems. They work just fine but it still takes some time to get
back up and going after a cartridge needs refilling again. You can
easily empty the cartridges just on a head cleans or by turning it
off and on a few times. By the time you have got one of the
cartridges working, one of the other cartridges would then be empty.
So you refill another one and then the printer sucks more ink seating
in that newly filled cartridge, then once it is going, you find one
of the others nearly empty again. Sounds like the CIS would be the
right thing to have. The Epson 2200 loves wasting ink and of course
that's how they makes there money. I ordered the efillink CIS and am
hoping other users for this CIS system can share their experiences
with me. I’m not a professional, just a hobbyist who enjoys working
with Photoshop and doing my family stuff. If any one can screw up the
CIS installation, it will be me for sure. I have an Epson Stylus
Photo 2200 and I really love the color it produces with the Epson
Ultrachrome inks. I use ILFORD smooth pearl paper and use their color
profiles which give me very good color results. I have recently only
received the inks and cartridges from Efillink and I’m still waiting
for the CIS to arrive. I started to use some of the inks Efillink
sent me to refill some of my cartridges. My prints look good. To me
the prints look almost identical when printed on ILFORD paper with
their ICC profiles! I'm very satisfied with the color of my prints so
far. Re-filling ink cartridges has worked for me and have had no
problems with the cartridges, inks, and the good support that Ronnie
at Efillink has provided me. I only want to change to a CIS for
convenience.

Hi

I am thinking of using their refillable carts. What were the difficulties you had with these? Have you since installed their CIS? My concern is that like you, I am a hobbyist, and there are times when the printer (Epson 2100) is idle for up to a month or two. Does one have to run a print or two every week to prevent clogging?

Your experience would be most helpful in making up my mind to use Efillink carts or even a CIS.

TIA

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granca New Member • Posts: 2
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

thkhor wrote:

WillPaulR wrote:

I have been using refillable cartridges I bought from Efillink.com.
After some trial and error, I finally have them working without any
problems. They work just fine but it still takes some time to get
back up and going after a cartridge needs refilling again. You can
easily empty the cartridges just on a head cleans or by turning it
off and on a few times. By the time you have got one of the
cartridges working, one of the other cartridges would then be empty.
So you refill another one and then the printer sucks more ink seating
in that newly filled cartridge, then once it is going, you find one
of the others nearly empty again. Sounds like the CIS would be the
right thing to have. The Epson 2200 loves wasting ink and of course
that's how they makes there money. I ordered the efillink CIS and am
hoping other users for this CIS system can share their experiences
with me. I’m not a professional, just a hobbyist who enjoys working
with Photoshop and doing my family stuff. If any one can screw up the
CIS installation, it will be me for sure. I have an Epson Stylus
Photo 2200 and I really love the color it produces with the Epson
Ultrachrome inks. I use ILFORD smooth pearl paper and use their color
profiles which give me very good color results. I have recently only
received the inks and cartridges from Efillink and I’m still waiting
for the CIS to arrive. I started to use some of the inks Efillink
sent me to refill some of my cartridges. My prints look good. To me
the prints look almost identical when printed on ILFORD paper with
their ICC profiles! I'm very satisfied with the color of my prints so
far. Re-filling ink cartridges has worked for me and have had no
problems with the cartridges, inks, and the good support that Ronnie
at Efillink has provided me. I only want to change to a CIS for
convenience.

Hi

I am thinking of using their refillable carts. What were the
difficulties you had with these? Have you since installed their CIS?
My concern is that like you, I am a hobbyist, and there are times
when the printer (Epson 2100) is idle for up to a month or two. Does
one have to run a print or two every week to prevent clogging?

Your experience would be most helpful in making up my mind to use
Efillink carts or even a CIS.

TIA

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TH

granca New Member • Posts: 2
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

Efillink support and service

Some time ago I purchased the Efillink CIS for my Epson 2100. Before the package arrived the printer claimed for a service and in connection with that all went wrong and I had to skip the 2100 and buy a new printer, an Epson R1800.

What should I do with the 2100 CIS? After emailing Ron Luk I was informed that the ink unit for 2100 could be used for the R1800 and he promised to send me new cartridges and inks for the R1800, which he also did.

I had some difficulties installing the unit, but after some trial (and errors) the prints came out quite fine. A few days later I run into problems and thought the nozzles were totally clogged. After hours of trying to get the CIS working I was very frustrated and uninstalled the whole thing. Back to Epson OEM inks and lots of expenses!

Of course I emailed Ron about my issues and let him know that I did not like his products very well, and that I have to try another vendor.

What did Ron? With still an email he told me that he will send me a new CIS and persuaded me to try once more!

So I did, and now I am happily printing outstanding colors with the Efillink inks which I consider very easy to use with Epson’s own profiles. A slight red (magenta) cast is easy to get rid of with some tweaking with curves.

This is what I call superb service and support. Oh, I forgot to tell that the replacements parts, cartridges and tubes, Ron sent me, was free!

I wrote this because for me it is unusual that a complete stranger acts like this towards another stranger. In our world today this is something to remember.

granca

Brian_Downunda Regular Member • Posts: 457
Re: First Impression Efillink CIS Epson 2200

I'd like to post another positive report of the Efillink CIS, this time for the R2400. It arrived promptly. I read the instructions and watched the setup video carefully. It installed easily. The tricky part was priming the system, but this was straight-forward as I followed the instructions. I got a clean nozzle check with a couple of purge patterns and one auto-nozzle check. There has not been any dripping, banding of clogging. I've been printing happily.

The trick to success seems to be to have the CIS unit at the right height. The good thing about the efillink CIS is that the bottles and wide and not that high, which means that the ink level does not change that much, making it easier to keep the unit at the right level to prevent syphoning or banding due to back-flow.

This is my first post here, and I've read of some suspicion of first posters making positive reports about efillink. I state categorically that I am not a stooge for efillink. I think the reason you see such first posts is that Ronnie encourages us users to post out feedback here, both good and bad. We've had such great service and support from Ronnie that we're happy to do so.

As further proof that I'm not a stooge, I have had some problems with the efillink easy refill cartridges, and posted a report here:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/90235

I got the CIS as part of a good upgrade deal after the problems I had. (Note that efillink is changing cartridge suppliers after all problems such as these). The support I had through all this was unbelievable, and the CIS has been flawless so far.

Brian D

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