14mm Rocks

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amcinroy Regular Member • Posts: 294
14mm Rocks

One from last week.

14mm DA
K10D triggered by remote
1 second at F16
3 stop Lee ND grad

EricAW Regular Member • Posts: 470
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Very nice image! Do you use the 3 stop grad a lot? I have been considering getting one or two but not sure which (as in how many stops) to get.

OP amcinroy Regular Member • Posts: 294
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EricAW wrote:

Very nice image! Do you use the 3 stop grad a lot? I have been
considering getting one or two but not sure which (as in how many
stops) to get.

Yes, I couldn't do without them.

I have the 1,2,3 stop Lee hard grads. But I use the 2 and 3 the most rarely the 1. Although the sometimes the one is handy to add to the 3.

Thanks for commenting.
Andy

PhotoCrawl Regular Member • Posts: 271
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It surely rocks. Nice capture.

One question: do you use a Cokin P wide holder with it? Does it have to be of the wide variety for this lens?

OP amcinroy Regular Member • Posts: 294
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The lee filter system is a 100mm system. I think this is equivalent size to the Cokin Z-Pro series.

You'll get no vignetting even with stacked filters on the 14mm with this setup, even if you use the standard adapter ring rather than the wide angle ring.

Andy

Jonson PL Veteran Member • Posts: 3,600
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Hi Andy,
Your appreciation of the nature comes through in your photography.
You also seem to have favourite places that you return to.

amcinroy wrote:

Yes, I couldn't do without them.

I have the 1,2,3 stop Lee hard grads. But I use the 2 and 3 the
most rarely the 1. Although the sometimes the one is handy to add
to the 3.

With all you guys’ fancy talk, just so the rest of us can follow; you’re talking about Neutral Density graduation filters, right :-?

As always, great images.

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OP amcinroy Regular Member • Posts: 294
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Thanks Sune.

Yes, this is my favorite place to photograph. It is a small granite cove in Donegal, Ireland. It's 50m long but you could spend a lifetime photographing there.

As Constable said "we paint out own places best"

Yes I am referring to neutral density graduates.

I would sometimes stack a ND graduate with a straight 3 stop ND filter to lengthen exposures. With moving water I prefer to keep the exposure under 2 seconds though. I'm not a great fan of the cotton wool water although I have plenty in my portfolio.

Andy

Lance B
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Beautiful image, Andy!

The DA14 is a really lovely lens and one of my most used. I also use the ND grads and wouldn't be without them.
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PhotoCrawl wrote:

It surely rocks. Nice capture.

One question: do you use a Cokin P wide holder with it? Does it
have to be of the wide variety for this lens?

I use the Cokin filter system and the P series wide angle filter holder works fine with no vignetting on the DA14.

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mskad Veteran Member • Posts: 3,329
Again!?!

Just replied to your DA21mm post. Another great images! Thanks for sharing.

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Duplo Veteran Member • Posts: 6,660
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Extremely well done... I absolutely adore it.
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Daddy Dan Contributing Member • Posts: 666
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stunning

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Scott Rylance Senior Member • Posts: 2,571
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Excellent shot....I was thinking about getting this lens...and now your shot has pretty much convinced me. Well done.
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hamidlmt Senior Member • Posts: 2,269
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Beauty of a shot! I love the 14mm... great lens. You've just convinced me that I need to invest in ND filters!

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Godfrey Forum Pro • Posts: 29,509
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Lovely work, Andy! You're making me wish I was a landscape photographer...

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dkandz Regular Member • Posts: 138
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I hope you have not taken offence as to everyone just commenting on the grads and the lenses used for this - the work is truly stunning. We are all just seeking to emulate your success as envious photographers!

I noted in another (dead) thread to thank you for sharing your beautiful country. Your website is great and informative, I especially like the commentary around the reason for the portfolios, thinking behind the shots, and your own profile and gear.

Given the talk of ND grads, I was wondering how you find the large Lee grads with your 16-45 DA. I am contemplating upgrading from the Cokin system and was interested in your opinion as to whether the size (not quality) of the Lee system is overkill for lenses of this size? 14mm too?

I guess if you can have the DA14 and not have to buy the (expensive) wide angle adaptor and threads as well then it is a bonus.

Thanks for sharing

OP amcinroy Regular Member • Posts: 294
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No problem, this is a technical forum after all and I enjoy the technical as well as the asthetic.

The 100mm Lee system works well on the 16-45mm. I do find this lens tends to "wobble" a bit when extended out at 16mm and I feel care is needed when inserting the filters that I don't exert to much pressure on this lens barrel. The looseness of the 16-45mm doesn't inspire confidence but I can't say that the optical performance has ever let me down. The 14mm on the other hand is rock solid.

I don't think the Lee system is overkill for 35mm or APS at all. I did originally buy it thinking I might move up to medium or large format. But after my move to digital I've found it gives everything I need. Great image quality, flexibility and speed. There is just no way I could have put together my webpage Portfolio 3 (Ocean Flow) on 5x4 or even medium format!! To do this sort of work I needed remote control release, exposure review and around 40-50 exposures to get the one in which the flows were perfect.

The only thing I would say is if you are buying the grads, make sure to buy the hard ones. The softer versions are very hard to align on APS.

Andy

EricAW Regular Member • Posts: 470
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The only thing I would say is if you are buying the grads, make sure to buy the hard ones. The softer versions are very hard to align on APS.

Thanks Andy. I was wondering about that. Also, to clarify, you have a larger Lee system than the Cokin P size, correct? I already have a number of Cokin P size filters, adapters etc. and would like to stick with that size. Do you know if that size would work with the lenses you have without vignetting etc.?

Thanks for your patience. Your photos are very beautiful and I am glad to learn all I can from people who's work I admire.

Eric.

OP amcinroy Regular Member • Posts: 294
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The Lee is a 100mm system which is equivalent to the Cokin Z-Pro system I think.

But it seems that people here have been using Cokin P on these lenses (14mm, 16-45, 21mm) with no problem.

The Cokin grads used to get a lot of criticism for colour casts (particularly magenta), but I believe they have addressed this.

Andy

dlast1 Regular Member • Posts: 410
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what a beautiful capture... very nice

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