Which is the best ultra compact for me?

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Kim Preece New Member • Posts: 13
Which is the best ultra compact for me?

Hi,

I currently own a Canon EOS 500N, I thought it was time I stop living in the past and purchase a digital.

I have done a little research thinking it would confirm to me the choice of camera I was going to purchase was a good one. All it has in fact done is lead to more confusion.

I have made some decisions, I want ultra compact or at very least the smallest compact available (EOS 500 has taken some really nice photos but it's all the photo opportunities missed because of it's inconvenient size to always have on hand that makes me choose ultra compact).

6MP +, with image stabilisation.

I will be taking a lot of pics of family with the occasional landscape shot and probably varying amounts of day and low light (indoor) shots.

Possible choices include Nikon S10, Canon Powershot TX1, I like these because of the larger zoom.

The Olympus Stylus 780 (my original choice), Ricoh Caplio R6, Canon Powershot SD800 IS, Nikon S7c.

Picture quality is important to me and given that I will be using one camera for day and low light, I'm wondering which will give me the best results. I've heard the Ricoh R6 is quick, and I like the lens configuration, but I've been told the images can be a little grainy in low light conditions and the flash may not be too good (or is this just the R5).

I like to have crisp clean photos with realistic colours.

Anyway this is turning into a bit of a novel, so I'll leave it at that.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Thanks,

Kim

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Re: Which is the best ultra compact for me?

Kim Preece wrote:

Possible choices include Nikon S10, Canon Powershot TX1, I like
these because of the larger zoom.
The Olympus Stylus 780 (my original choice), Ricoh Caplio R6, Canon
Powershot SD800 IS, Nikon S7c.

And Casio EX-V7 (7MP, 7x zoom, 38-266mm, Ultra-compact, manual modes) & Panasonic TZ3 (if you want zoom with wide angle 28-280mm,7MP).
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0701/07013105panasonictz2tz3.asp#press

I personally would have gone for Casio for its compact size, manual controls & live histogram.
Second choice will be S10 due to 10x zoom, Swival LCD, low price.
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OP Kim Preece New Member • Posts: 13
Re: Which is the best ultra compact for me?

ajay0612 wrote:

Kim Preece wrote:

Possible choices include Nikon S10, Canon Powershot TX1, I like
these because of the larger zoom.
The Olympus Stylus 780 (my original choice), Ricoh Caplio R6, Canon
Powershot SD800 IS, Nikon S7c.

And Casio EX-V7 (7MP, 7x zoom, 38-266mm, Ultra-compact, manual
modes) & Panasonic TZ3 (if you want zoom with wide angle
28-280mm,7MP).

Which do you think out of the above would have the best quality pictures in both day and night (indoor) lighting conditions?

becksi Regular Member • Posts: 375
Re: Which is the best ultra compact for me?

Canon SD800 or Ricoh Caplio R6 ... but coming from an SLR and going to compact (digital or not) is likely to be a big disappointment for you ... and not only in matters of image quality, but also feature selection, creative freedom and versatility.

Think about what you want to use the camera for, think about which situations you would hate to be limited ... and then pick the right gear out that best suits your lifestyle - better yet - photography style.

Unless you only ever used P as in Program mode on you SLR, you maybe looking for the wrong kind lacking all the manual controls.

becksi

Kim Preece wrote:

ajay0612 wrote:

Kim Preece wrote:

Possible choices include Nikon S10, Canon Powershot TX1, I like
these because of the larger zoom.
The Olympus Stylus 780 (my original choice), Ricoh Caplio R6, Canon
Powershot SD800 IS, Nikon S7c.

And Casio EX-V7 (7MP, 7x zoom, 38-266mm, Ultra-compact, manual
modes) & Panasonic TZ3 (if you want zoom with wide angle
28-280mm,7MP).

Which do you think out of the above would have the best quality
pictures in both day and night (indoor) lighting conditions?

ajay0612
ajay0612 Senior Member • Posts: 2,799
Re: Which is the best ultra compact for me?

Kim Preece wrote:

ajay0612 wrote:

Kim Preece wrote:

Possible choices include Nikon S10, Canon Powershot TX1, I like
these because of the larger zoom.
The Olympus Stylus 780 (my original choice), Ricoh Caplio R6, Canon
Powershot SD800 IS, Nikon S7c.

And Casio EX-V7 (7MP, 7x zoom, 38-266mm, Ultra-compact, manual
modes) & Panasonic TZ3 (if you want zoom with wide angle
28-280mm,7MP).

Which do you think out of the above would have the best quality
pictures in both day and night (indoor) lighting conditions?

All will perform similerly. That is the hard fact as all of these have similar pixel size. So you should take a decision based on features. So Casio followed by Nikon S10.

If best IQ you want then think Only & Only Fuji among consumer P&S. e.g. Fuji F20/F40fd,F30/ F31fd. As these have larger pixel size & optimize space better leading to low noise results. But these don't has Image-stabilisation.
See links below for more details:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf30/page6.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf30/page16.asp

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OP Kim Preece New Member • Posts: 13
Re: Which is the best ultra compact for me?

Thanks for the tips Ajay, much appreciated.

I've looked at F20 comments from other users, they seem to suggest the low light shooting is good, daytime shooting however in good light doesn't show brilliant results.

I've seen to many bad user comments of the Casio EX-V7 to go with that one. So I'm swaying towards to S10.

Do you have any thoughts on the Ricoh Caplio R6, Olympus Stylus 780 or the Canon SD800 IS?

Another thought. Is the 6 MP of the S10 enough, or should I be looking for 7+ MP?

Again thanks for your help.

Best Regards,

Kim

All will perform similerly. That is the hard fact as all of these
have similar pixel size. So you should take a decision based on
features. So Casio followed by Nikon S10.
If best IQ you want then think Only & Only Fuji among consumer P&S.
e.g. Fuji F20/F40fd,F30/ F31fd. As these have larger pixel size &
optimize space better leading to low noise results. But these don't
has Image-stabilisation.

ajay0612
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Re: Which is the best ultra compact for me?

Kim Preece wrote:

Thanks for the tips Ajay, much appreciated.

I've looked at F20 comments from other users, they seem to suggest
the low light shooting is good, daytime shooting however in good
light doesn't show brilliant results.

I've seen to many bad user comments of the Casio EX-V7 to go with
that one. So I'm swaying towards to S10.

Do you have any thoughts on the Ricoh Caplio R6, Olympus Stylus 780
or the Canon SD800 IS?

All these have tiny sensors (1/2.5") & too many pixels crammed on that. So noisy & clipped highlights.

Another thought. Is the 6 MP of the S10 enough, or should I be
looking for 7+ MP?

Good enough on such tiny sensor (1/2.5"). 6 & 7MP difference is not much anyway (Linear dim. of equivalent print is proportional to square root of MPs.). Less, the better on such small size. S10 has the versatility of Swival LCD and 10x I.S.zoom in compact body (although no A/P/S modes). It will be useful (due to above) even when you upgrade to a DSLR in near future.

Again thanks for your help.

Welcome. I am lucky to be of any help;-)
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OP Kim Preece New Member • Posts: 13
S10 vs TZ3

I've narrowed it down to two choices, I think.

Nikon S10 and the Panasonic TZ3.

I invite any comments from anyone regarding my two options.

I've read all the positive aspects of these two cameras. What I would like is for anyone to offer up any negative aspects of either the S10 or the TZ3 they have noticed from personal experience, as I think personal experience is far more useful than detailed reviews.

I've searched various forums and sample photos but unless the two are compared side by side with identical test photos it's hard to judge which is best.

I'm after IQ, the chances of me doing much PP is slim.

Thanks in advance.

Kim

ajay0612
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Re: S10 vs TZ3

Dear Kim

Start a new thread with this in subject (Nikon S10 or TZ3, Please help)? And see the responses.
Regards
Ajay

Kim Preece wrote:

I've narrowed it down to two choices, I think.

Nikon S10 and the Panasonic TZ3.

I invite any comments from anyone regarding my two options.

I've read all the positive aspects of these two cameras. What I
would like is for anyone to offer up any negative aspects of either
the S10 or the TZ3 they have noticed from personal experience, as I
think personal experience is far more useful than detailed reviews.

I've searched various forums and sample photos but unless the two
are compared side by side with identical test photos it's hard to
judge which is best.

I'm after IQ, the chances of me doing much PP is slim.

Thanks in advance.

Kim

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