K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

Started Feb 6, 2007 | Discussions
Joseph Tainter Forum Pro • Posts: 10,752
K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

I wasn't sure if this lens would have enough resolution for the 10 mp sensor. But I believe it does. This was shot at F8, and the lens's best aperture is actually F11:

Shot from a distance of 4-4.5 meters, and cropped from the center of the image area.

ISO 200; 1/750 @ F8; Noise Ninja; very slight sharpening with nik Sharpener Pro.

Joe

Scott Rylance Senior Member • Posts: 2,571
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

Hi Joe,

Nice shot. I have this Lens also, and even though F8-F11 is at its best, wide open isn't too bad either.
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Krazy_Kow Senior Member • Posts: 1,417
me too .... or should that be 3 ??!!??

Im enjoying mine as well ... its so much fun exploring this lens .... finding its pros and cons ...
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LaRee Forum Pro • Posts: 19,943
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

Sharp shot Joe. I'd say the lens looks like it work right fine with the k10d. Thanks for sharing.
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chris gunn
chris gunn Veteran Member • Posts: 8,723
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

Joseph Tainter wrote:

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/11740/2003620684155360062_rs.jpg

ISO 200; 1/750 @ F8; Noise Ninja; very slight sharpening with nik
Sharpener Pro.

Are you using JPG with in-camera sharpening?

Don Allison Veteran Member • Posts: 6,163
Joe: Nice to see you're getting squat out of that old lens...

Sharp as a tack as usual. Cheers. Don
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CopCarSS
CopCarSS Senior Member • Posts: 1,967
How does it do wide open? (nt)
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nznhut Regular Member • Posts: 468
Re: me too .... or should that be 3 ??!!??

me three! or four!

I really like this lens.

fwcetus
fwcetus Senior Member • Posts: 1,524
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

Nice and sharp, Joe - a nice shot of a nuthatch there (white-breasted?).

I assume that the build quality on that lens is typical AT-X style - correct?

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OP Joseph Tainter Forum Pro • Posts: 10,752
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

chris gunn wrote:

Joseph Tainter wrote:

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/11740/2003620684155360062_rs.jpg

ISO 200; 1/750 @ F8; Noise Ninja; very slight sharpening with nik
Sharpener Pro.

Are you using JPG with in-camera sharpening?

No, I always shoot RAW. As I mentioned in the original post, I gave it some light sharpening in nik Sharpener Pro.

Joe

OP Joseph Tainter Forum Pro • Posts: 10,752
Re: How does it do wide open? (nt)

CopCarSS wrote:

Wide open is this lens's weak spot. It is okay wide open, but much better at F8-F11.

At F8 and F11 the Tokina 400 and the FA* 400 F5.6 rate about equally sharp. But the FA* 400 is sharper wide open. Often one wants to shoot a lens like this wide open, to gain shutter speed. This is the one characteristic of the FA* 400 that from time to time tempts me to get one. But I hope that Pentax will bring out a D FA 400.

Joe

OP Joseph Tainter Forum Pro • Posts: 10,752
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

fwcetus wrote:

Nice and sharp, Joe - a nice shot of a nuthatch there
(white-breasted?).

Thanks.

I assume that the build quality on that lens is typical AT-X style

  • correct?

Oh, yes. It is solid but lightweight--a real joy to handle.

Joe

tocarver Veteran Member • Posts: 3,640
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

Nice shooting Joe, I enjoy mine too, just always want more reach (+: Tack sharp and thanks for the heads up on it's sweet spot, being new to a DSLR and the whole lens thing, it would have taken me awhile to stumble on to that on my own. As much as I like this lens, I'd like more reach and am considering the Bigma, but have seen a Tokina 150-500 at this seller in the US, haven't checked him out or anything, but just as a piont of interest and am curious if anyone has every heard of or used this lens??

Saw one on ebay for sale in Pentax mount, but already had the 400mm and had not seen any posts about this focal lenght. Would love to know how it stacks up against the bigma.
At any rate, very well done
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OP Joseph Tainter Forum Pro • Posts: 10,752
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

tocarver wrote:
. As much as I like this

lens, I'd like more reach and am considering the Bigma, but have
seen a Tokina 150-500 at this seller in the US, haven't checked him
out or anything, but just as a piont of interest and am curious if
anyone has every heard of or used this lens??
Saw one on ebay for sale in Pentax mount, but already had the 400mm
and had not seen any posts about this focal lenght. Would love to
know how it stacks up against the bigma.
At any rate, very well done
http://www.hotbuyselectronics.com/tokina_zoom_lenses.htm

Jerry, I don't see that lens listed at B&H. Is it available in Pentax mount?

Joe

tocarver Veteran Member • Posts: 3,640
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

Hi joe, what made me search this out was there was one for sale on Ebay a couple of weeks ago in pentax mount, so I assume it is available for Pentax. Now the question is whether it could compete when it comes to the more modern Sigma when it comes to digital and coatings and all that.

I'm thinking this is an older lens, not a new release or anything. I'm going to do some google research on it and see what comes up. My concern is that Sigma decides to update the Bigma and I fork out 1200. and then the new model has HSS for Pentax. Or Tokina jumps on the bandwagon with some of their more modern long reach stuff for Pentax, to fill the holes that exist. They have some nice stuff for N&C mount.

If I can be patient, I think in 6 months someone is going to fill this void properly and alot of new Pentax owners would be very interested. Just imho.

Haven't seen it on any of the major players sites, did see it on a site in the UK. along with the 80-400, which was what started my search in the first place.

Like many, would just like some options, as Sigma seems to be the only game in town, if your pockets aren't deep enough )+:
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fwcetus
fwcetus Senior Member • Posts: 1,524
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

I'd like more reach and am considering the Bigma, but have
seen a Tokina 150-500 at this seller in the US, haven't checked him
out or anything, but just as a piont of interest and am curious if
anyone has every heard of or used this lens??
Saw one on ebay for sale in Pentax mount, but already had the 400mm
and had not seen any posts about this focal lenght. Would love to
know how it stacks up against the bigma.

I used to have a Tokina AT-X 150-500/5.6. It's very well built (just like every other AT-X lens I've ever owned). However, it's the only one I didn't like (and I kept it only perhaps half a year before selling it). It works very well up to about 300mm or so, but above that it starts getting softer - it's definitely not as sharp at 400mm, and it's downright mushy at 500mm. (At least, that's my experience with my one sample, which did seem to be in very good shape - i.e., this did not seem to be an "abused" lens or anything like that.)

I have not had the chance to use a Bigma (I'd love to), but, from reports and sample images that I've seen online, it looks like a winner. About the closest thing to the AT-X 150-500/5.6 I have is the newer AT-X 80-400/4.5-5.6 AF-II, which is built very well (despite being an AF lens) and is a lot sharper than the 150-500 above 300mm (although, of course, it doesn't go to 500mm). The 80-400 is just so portable and hand-holdable, compared to either the 150-500 or the Bigma, though...

I guess that my bottom line for the 150-500/5.6 is that "it's the only [AT-X] I didn't like".

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tocarver Veteran Member • Posts: 3,640
Re: K10D w/Tokina SD AT-X AF 400 F5.6

Thanks alot Fred, that's that then, back to the wishing board (+:

Yep, the Bigma may not be perfect, but unless ya got afew grand to spare, that's probably the best option in that price range.
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