80-400 VR vs 70-200 VR-G plus 2x teleconverter

Started Jan 31, 2007 | Discussions
Bathastronomy Regular Member • Posts: 142
80-400 VR vs 70-200 VR-G plus 2x teleconverter

OK - getting ready for trips time.

I need a long reach zoom: whats the quality comparison (and usability and all that - including VR) between the 80-400 VR and the 70-200 VR plus the TC20E teleconverter?

Any one tried them out head to head?

Jamie
Bath

Peter Patricelli Regular Member • Posts: 334
Re: 80-400 VR vs 70-200 VR-G plus 2x teleconverter

Wow, I really don't understand your question.

First, I would be blown away if anyone suggested that the smaller lens WITH the TC 2.0 was the resolution equivalent of the longer lens without. The consistent message here in discussions about the TC's is that the 1.4's do pretty well but there is noticeable drop-off with the 2.0's.

Secondly, if one already has the 400mm AND the TC 2.0 why would one NOT bring both those and really have a long distance possibility.

Maybe this was a purchase decision question?
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Chuck Yadmark
Chuck Yadmark Veteran Member • Posts: 3,969
Re: 80-400 VR vs 70-200 VR-G plus 2x teleconverter

Welll this thread happens about once a week, and a search will find about several hundred comments on this topic, but I'm really bored right now so I'll jump in...

The general consensus seems to be that the 80-400 VR is a very good lens if you can work within it's limitation of focus speed (it's AF and not AFS). With good light and proper technique it's pictures are great.

The 70-200 VR AFS is much more expensive for a few reasons, its AFS, it's glass is superior, it's a 2.8 lens, it's build is better, but heavier. It's image quality is superior at 70-200, of course. Focus speed is much faster.

At 400, the 80-400 is easier to shoot in good light than the 70-200 with TC 20e, though as Pradipta Dutta will tell you (as his technique seems to be stellar) good results can be had with the TC with great care, and some stopping down.

I have a hard time recommending the 80-400 right now as it seems very overdue for a switch to AFS

Bathastronomy wrote:

OK - getting ready for trips time.

I need a long reach zoom: whats the quality comparison (and
usability and all that - including VR) between the 80-400 VR and
the 70-200 VR plus the TC20E teleconverter?

Any one tried them out head to head?

Jamie
Bath

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gonzalu
gonzalu Forum Pro • Posts: 10,389
I regularly use a 70-200 VR with TC17

and never used a 80-400 for any length of time (other than playing with it at PhoPlus Expo)

Given that, I would say the 70-200 + TC is a GREAT combo. I have shot two airshows with this combo and it is stellar, far above the old 70-300 I used to use.

Now, I do believe the 80-400 at 400mm will surpass the "quality" of the 70-200 w/ a TC20. Usability may also be much better.

From 70-200 the 70-200VR will trounce the 80-400 at f/4 to f/11 hands down.

So it depends on what you're after. If you need maximum reach, leave the 70-200 behind and pack the 80-400 with a TC14 or TC17 and be happy. If you really need longer, a TC20. But it will be poor for large reproductions. If only publishing for web or newspaper, it should be fine.

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