5d Wide angle? Which lens is SHARP

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matthew piunno Regular Member • Posts: 210
5d Wide angle? Which lens is SHARP

I'm going 5d. I'm a prime wide-angle kind of guy.

had an xt with the 17-85 is. good walkaround, but my 18-55 killed it in sharpness. 17-85 not wide enough at (26mm).

for the 5d...

I want to go wide, 16mm or 17mm.

I hear the 24mm prime is good and cheap.

is the 17-40L great or so-so. I shoot city landscapes of chicago. i need sharp.

i need some ideas.

matt

MAC Forum Pro • Posts: 13,826
Re: 5d Wide angle? Which lens is SHARP

stay with a 30d and 10-22; for the 5d, wide isn't a match yet

matthew piunno wrote:

I'm going 5d. I'm a prime wide-angle kind of guy.

had an xt with the 17-85 is. good walkaround, but my 18-55 killed
it in sharpness. 17-85 not wide enough at (26mm).

for the 5d...

I want to go wide, 16mm or 17mm.

I hear the 24mm prime is good and cheap.

is the 17-40L great or so-so. I shoot city landscapes of chicago.
i need sharp.

i need some ideas.

matt

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Jack_DC Senior Member • Posts: 2,442
Re: Which lens is SHARP ... none till f/11

Both the 16-35 and 17-40 need f11 to have sharp corners with minimal light falloff.

The 10-22 fairs much better in the corners on 1.6x cameras, but may be softer in the center.

blackhawk13 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,742
Re: Which lens is SHARP ... none till f/11

The 16-35 L is about as good as it gets for a wide Canon zoom. I normally stop it down 3 stops or more on the 5D. Many times the 24-70 L is as wide as I need and a more versatile zoom. Some say the 16-35 is over priced, but I would buy it again, rather than the 17-40. I like it when I need it.

imacken Contributing Member • Posts: 814
Re: 5d Wide angle? Which lens is SHARP

I use the Sigma 12-24 to supplement my 24-10 on the 5D. I have no complaints about the results - I love it!

Michael Thompson Contributing Member • Posts: 634
5D - good Wide angle primes, erm which?

Matthew,

nice sharp prime lenses on a Canon 5D?

Sigma EX20 - sharp and very wide indeed needs good skills technique and F8 for crisp sharp images, a specialist lens for big huge open Vistas imo. massive dof at 20mm.

Sigma EX24 - sharp and less fussy than the 20mm above, very nice lens at F8 very nice price as well.

Sigma EX28 - sharp and versatile lens, very cheap to buy, mine was superb and now regret selling it.

the above Sigmas can vary with QC issues but iv been lucky so far! as a Canon alternative they are very competitive being very sharp and of better build quality, all are f1:8? never used mine at f1:8 just landscapes at F8 -F11 where there very sharp and contrasty with good colour rendition.

Canon Ef 20 - sharp and very wide and just as fussy as the Sigma Ex20mm, used at F2:8 its disappointing (why shoot wide open at f2:8 though?) at F5.6 to F11 its a very sharp Lens a little prone to flare but then that's down to the photographer, slight vigg shading at F8 but not intrusive around .25 stop at the extreme corners. again massive dof at 20mm.

Canon Ef 24L - very sharp and wonderful but so very expensive!

Canon Ef - 24 f2:8 - sharp lovely little Lens not best build quality and zero USM AF but so what? very sharp at f5:6 - F11, another bargain WA lens.

Canon Ef 28 F2:8 - bargain of a Lens wonderful IQ and very sharp at F8, build quality is shall we say basic? but it works very well nevertheless and with care should last many years, image sharpness is 'L' standard or better.

Canon Ef 35 f2:0 - best WA lens Canon makes full stop! very very sharp at F8 contrast lovely rich colours absolute bargain, but again basic build quality, also add its tiny Lens! on a 5D you don't know its there and nobody else does either, again sharpness is 'L' standard or even better.

just some ideas thoughts and observations, on FF 1DsmkII and 5D bodies.

Michael.

matthew piunno wrote:

I'm going 5d. I'm a prime wide-angle kind of guy.

had an xt with the 17-85 is. good walkaround, but my 18-55 killed
it in sharpness. 17-85 not wide enough at (26mm).

for the 5d...

I want to go wide, 16mm or 17mm.

I hear the 24mm prime is good and cheap.

is the 17-40L great or so-so. I shoot city landscapes of chicago.
i need sharp.

i need some ideas.

matt

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gium Senior Member • Posts: 1,199
Re: 5d Wide angle? Which lens is SHARP

there isn't much in image quality between the 16-35 and 17-40, so you might want to get the 17-40 if you don't need the f/2.8. A good sample will provide you with usable corners even at f/5.6, but the corners will be definitely be supersharp at f/11. A 5D+17-40 also resolves more detail than a 30D+10-22. (probably due to its lower pixel density and higher pixel resolution). Petteri has a side by side comparison review on his website (don't have the link at hand, use google :P).

Sharp WA primes for the 5D are the 35mms, the L and the f/2.0 both have a good reputation and can be very, very sharp. Same goes for the 24-70L and 24-105L zooms at focal lengths below 50mm. I've also heard a lot of positive remarks about the Sigma 30/1.4.

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drioannis Regular Member • Posts: 484
Re: 5d Wide angle? Which lens is SHARP

I think that the 17-40 is just fine on a 5D.If you want extra sharp go prime or even CZ...

misha Forum Pro • Posts: 18,768
Re: Which lens is SHARP ... none till f/11

blackhawk13 wrote:

The 16-35 L is about as good as it gets for a wide Canon zoom. I
normally stop it down 3 stops or more on the 5D. Many times the
24-70 L is as wide as I need and a more versatile zoom. Some say
the 16-35 is over priced, but I would buy it again, rather than the
17-40. I like it when I need it.

But since you normally stop it down, is there any advantage over the 17-40?
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Lee Jay Forum Pro • Posts: 54,144
Probably the 17-40L

I use it on the 5D. It does need f11-f13 for sharp corners. But this combo beats a crop camera and 10-22 easily and probably beats the 16-35 just barely.

http://wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/16-35/index.htm

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Eduardo Elortegui New Member • Posts: 19
Re: Probably the 17-40L
Stephen Kathnelson Forum Member • Posts: 58
Re: 5d Wide angle? Which lens is SHARP

For wide angle I use the 17 - 40mm F4L. I love the lens myself, very sharp, excellent contrast. Some vignetting at 17mm, but I'd still but it all over again. Good luck
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Re: Which lens is SHARP ... none till f/11

The 16-35 L is about as good as it gets for a wide Canon zoom. I
normally stop it down 3 stops or more on the 5D. Many times the
24-70 L is as wide as I need and a more versatile zoom. Some say
the 16-35 is over priced, but I would buy it again, rather than the
17-40. I like it when I need it.

But since you normally stop it down, is there any advantage over
the 17-40?

A brighter viewfinder and f/2.8 "emergency mode." This took advantage of both ( so I'd be able to focus ), and is a 25 second f/2.8 exposure at 400 ASA:

Also, the lens has decent bokeh, and it can be fun to do insane closeups. Here's one from the 15-30 Sigma, that might have been in focus if I still had the 16-35 L:

The 'need' for any of this stuff ( except a brighter VF ) is pretty rare.

blackhawk13 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,742
Re: Which lens is SHARP ... none till f/11

misha wrote:

blackhawk13 wrote:

The 16-35 L is about as good as it gets for a wide Canon zoom. I
normally stop it down 3 stops or more on the 5D. Many times the
24-70 L is as wide as I need and a more versatile zoom. Some say
the 16-35 is over priced, but I would buy it again, rather than the
17-40. I like it when I need it.

But since you normally stop it down, is there any advantage over
the 17-40?
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Misha

Even when stopped down, AF uses a f/2.8 aparatur to obtain lock up. Lens above f/2.8 can't take full advantage of the AF system. Low light lock up is noticeable faster and more possble.

It's wider too, that silly 1 mm longer.

Everyone I know that has one, likes it. I see no sense in putting slow lens on EOS cameras, they'll shoot ok in brigt sunlight, but a quick AF lock means less lost shots.

tlg Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: Which lens is SHARP ... none till f/11

What is your opinion about the sigma 15-30 DG EX ??

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