Show off your 50/1.4 photos

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traxiii Regular Member • Posts: 104
Re: Lots o' pics

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William DIllard Senior Member • Posts: 2,492
Re: Show off your 50/1.4 photos
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keithallenlaw Veteran Member • Posts: 3,435
OK, heres one but...

its an f/4.0

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30D ISO 400 w/onboard flash

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michaelbs Senior Member • Posts: 2,739
Question: Joe Mama

would you please share your sharpening routine?

These pics are very impressive. My 50 1.4 + 5D is nowhere near your results in terms of sharpness, which seems so natural in your pics.
Please share your sharpening routine.

Thanks
Michael

joe mama Forum Pro • Posts: 12,623
I'll tell you my secret (shhhh!):

would you please share your sharpening routine?

OK, but don't tell it to anyone: post only the good ones. : )

These pics are very impressive. My 50 1.4 + 5D is nowhere near your
results in terms of sharpness, which seems so natural in your pics.
Please share your sharpening routine.

Glad you like the pics. My standard workflow is: convert from RAW using BreezeBrowser Pro, combined, aRGB, +0 saturation, -4 contrast, +3 sharpening, HQ style sharpening. After that, it's all up in the air, depending on the pic -- I have no standard processing aside from the RAW conversion.

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Psychic1 Senior Member • Posts: 2,226
Re: Show off your 50/1.4 photos

Shot with a 1D @ 1.4

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ePan Contributing Member • Posts: 527
Re: Show off your 50/1.4 photos

I think I finally figured out how to embed.

@ f/4.0

@ f/2.5

@ f/1.8

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Luna9 Regular Member • Posts: 379
I love it for low light

f1.8, 1/160, 1600

mswlogo Senior Member • Posts: 1,029
Re: Lots o' pics

Ditto, that's my favorite too.

thejaybird wrote:

joe mama wrote:

Canon 5D + 50mm / 1.4 @ f / 1.4, 1/250, ISO 3200

http://www.pbase.com/joemama/image/66492693

Wow, that's a classic!

Craig Craver Forum Member • Posts: 93
Re: Lots o' pics

Joe ... these images are fabulous.

I've been considering the purchase of a new camera - the two front runners have been the 30D and the D200. The reason Canon is appealing to me is the low noise levels. I'm just wondering if you did any noise reduction in these images. The first and last of your images posted here at ISO 3200 are mind blowing. (As a side question ... is ISO 12800 a typo?) It doesn't sound like you did any noise reduction, but I just wanted to verify.

Also, would a 30D + 50 1.4 combo (+ a skilled photographer :)) achieve similar results ... or is the 5D playing a huge role here?

I hadn't considered the 5D before, but after looking at your images ... it just got me thinking. Unfortunately I could only afford the 50 1.4 if I went with the 5D

Thanks,
Craig

drdee Junior Member • Posts: 36
Re: Show off your 50/1.4 photos

This is one I liked taking.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4063703

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genrxr Regular Member • Posts: 430
Re: Lots o' pics

your high iso shots are some of the best ive ever seen

impressive and thanks for sharing

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bali Contributing Member • Posts: 552
I like this one..

joe mama Forum Pro • Posts: 12,623
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Joe ... these images are fabulous.

Thanks!

I've been considering the purchase of a new camera - the two front
runners have been the 30D and the D200. The reason Canon is
appealing to me is the low noise levels. I'm just wondering if you
did any noise reduction in these images. The first and last of your
images posted here at ISO 3200 are mind blowing. (As a side
question ... is ISO 12800 a typo?) It doesn't sound like you did
any noise reduction, but I just wanted to verify.

I'm pretty sure I did use NR on the pics -- I often do. I use NoiseNinja, but use NR only sparingly. If you use NR at full strength, it ruins the pic. Better noise than plastic. So, I do a few tries at various settings and use what looks most appealing to my eye, but it's usually very little.

Also, would a 30D + 50 1.4 combo (+ a skilled photographer :))
achieve similar results ... or is the 5D playing a huge role here?

Actually, you'd be using the 30D + 35 / 1.4L if you were looking for results like this (50mm on FF has the same FOV as 31mm on 1.6x). However, as you correctly note, the 5D does play a huge role here. However, the photographer also plays a huge role. If you suck at taking pics or PP, then the equipment is not going to do it for you. But if you's gots skills, then, yeah, the equipment makes a difference that is immediately noticable.

I hadn't considered the 5D before, but after looking at your images
... it just got me thinking. Unfortunately I could only afford the
50 1.4 if I went with the 5D

Obviously, I cannot tell another person what's right for them. I can only say what's right for me and post examples as to why I feel that way. People in these fora talk trash about this and that, but don't post pics to back it up, so you've no idea how to weigh their opinion. Then there are those that do post pics, but often the pics are so small, so uninteresing, so stopped down, or just plain bad that you have to wonder what all the fuss is about. I mean, what if I were asking me about some chick, and I said she's a hottie, and then I posted pics of some other girl who fell off the ugly tree, hitting every branch on the way down, and said that she's hot? What stock would you put in my opinion after that?

Lastly, you have to keep in mind that I take lots and lots and lots of pics, and don't post the bad ones. I mean, you're seeing only my best, and might come to the conclusion that every pic out of my camera is gold. Not so. Now I'm not saying that it's just a crapshoot for me to get a good pic -- I don't just hold the shutter down and hope to get lucky. The truth of the matter is that many of my pics are very similar and I just pic the best one out. Sometimes the smallest detail can make one pic shine over another. Other times, they're simply uninteresting, but technically proficient. That is, they usually are sharp and in focus (except when using the 50 / 1.4 below f / 2.8), but nothing "artistic". And, of course, some of them just plain suck (although I usually delete those before they ever get downloaded onto my machine -- yes, I do chimp!).

I mean, it's like anything else. Put some joker on a GSXR1000 and all they'll do is be another emergency room statistic or a poser on a great bike. Give a kid with some skills an old CBR600, and they'll have helicopters hunting for them daily. But put that same kid on a moped and he'll just be a payment away from a skateboard.

Yes, it is the photographer. But the equipment makes a difference. That difference can be anywhere from subtle to huge depending on the type of pic and the skills, both with the camera and with PP, that were used to create the image. In other words, if you're just taking a pic of your kid on the couch with a flash at f / 10, then, no, the 5D is not what you're looking for. But if you're a high ISO shooter and/or looking for a shallow DOF along with a few more MP, then you don't have many choices that are better than the 5D if your skills are up to par.

And yes, as much as I disklike the 50 / 1.4, I'd still take the 5D + 50 / 1.4 over the 30D + 35 / 1.4L. But papa just sold his three 580 EXs to afford that 50 / 1.2L (kept the ST-E2 to help with low light AF, though). Will it be money well spent? I'll let you know. : )

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joe mama Forum Pro • Posts: 12,623
Thanks!

your high iso shots are some of the best ive ever seen

impressive and thanks for sharing

I appreciate the kind words!

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joe mama Forum Pro • Posts: 12,623
Oh you give me too much credit, sir!

The only thing I'm a master of is my own domain, if you get my
obsure allusion. : )

Invictus?

A Seinfeld show about masturbation. Did you honestly think I was educated enough to have read poetry that didn't come off a bathroom stall or subway wall? : )

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dotborg Veteran Member • Posts: 8,510
A couple more at f/1.4

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Joss Delage
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Equipment

Joe - what aspect of the 5D gives it the most important edge over say the 20D / 30D, from a pic quality standpoint? I'm completely new to this...

Thanks,

JD

joe mama Forum Pro • Posts: 12,623
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Joe - what aspect of the 5D gives it the most important edge over
say the 20D / 30D, from a pic quality standpoint? I'm completely
new to this...

Onto that point, I wish I could be specific. I'll do my best. The 5D pics are usually much sharper, but I don't know if this is because of its weaker AA filter, more MP, more accurate AF, or both. Not that the 20D was unsharp, mind you, but the 5D is amazing.

I'll try to support my case. Here are some pics with the 20D and 17-85 IS:

http://www.pbase.com/joemama/1785is

And here are some with the 5D and Tamron 28-75 / 2.8:

http://www.pbase.com/joemama/tamron_2875__28

I know they're different lenses, but the 17-85 IS was as sharp at 85mm as my 85 / 1.8, so I think that, if not fair, it's a least close.

The 5D also handles high ISO noise much better. Again, I was never disappointed with the 20D, it's just that the 5D is a step up. In addition, the 5D just seems to handle light better. I'm not sure how to quantify that, but I'll try to explain. I just read a thread talking about he DR of the 5D vs 30D. One person noted that while the DR is pretty much the same, the transition from non-blown to blown is much more smooth on the 5D, even though it blows out at the same level.

I just know that I very much prefer the quality of the 5D pics to the 20D pics, and that I preferred them right from the start. There was no learning curve.

Lastly, let me offer this, a 100% crop from the 5D on the 85 / 1.8 at f / 1.8:

http://www.pbase.com/joemama/image/55523320

I just didn't get that on the 20D.

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