Preliminary report on D80

Started Sep 7, 2006 | Discussions
ARClark
ARClark Veteran Member • Posts: 3,703
Re: D200x?

Thomas Karlmann wrote:

I would like to see Nikon come out with a D200-class camera that
incorporates the IQ of the D80 into a D200 body. (if all this
bears true)

Couldn't this happen? I keep thinking about the relatively
lame-duck transition from D70 to D70s.

Why not a slight alteration to the D200?
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J Mankila
J Mankila Veteran Member • Posts: 4,234
Question about the NR...

Walter S Matthews wrote:

Today I shot the D80....

All I can say is wow.

Iso 1600 and Nikon 35mm F2.0, 85mm F2.0 and finally Nikon 18-55 F2.8.

All I can say is WOW! Thanks for your post!

What can you say about the different noise reduction options? What did you use in those weddings? I'm asking this because I like how the NR Off and also NR Low look like... I'm not into the NR High, because it looks a bit overprocessed. What do you think?

Janne Mankila

OP Walter S Matthews Veteran Member • Posts: 3,311
Not so fast there young man...

Three weddings this weekend with me using the D80 often. Not exclusively as it ends up not as good as the S3 for shots in the sun, or with sunlight in the picture. As mentioned, when the light is low the camera will focus nicely, about as well as the D200 and the color at high iso, 1600, is excellent and although there is digital noise in the shadows it is not too much to live with. Overall I am pleased with the performance of the D80 in very low light conditions. Specifically conditions where the S3 and any other Nikon will struggle.

However, outside in the sun the horses change color too fast for the D80. It just doesn't handle the DR in the same league as the S3. My wife shot the S3 along side of me for the formals in two different weddings, outdoors, where I shot the D80. We were shooting identical ISO, identical shutter speed and we were both using the SB800 flash for fill. The bottom line is that in my shots with the D80 about 1/3 of the shots had the dress blown or at least so white that there was just not much detail left. This did not happen to my wife's shots. Yes, I know, you say she is a better photographer than I am,that may be true, but the fact remains, that she does what I suggest for exposure and I am trying to do the same thing with my D80 that she is doing with her S3 and it just won't hold the highlights. It is certainly bettert than the D2X but about the same as the D200 and clearly not adequate. Part of the problem is that I have learned to skate very close to the edge with the S3 because I can and with the D80 you just cannot get that close. Next time I will dial in at least a minus .7 ev which should cover the blown highlights but then again maybe not. I'll have to drag my dummy and white wedding dress out to the back yard to experiment some more.

Overall the D80 is a very nice camera, quick, responsive and with good color. However, it ain't no S3 and when you are in bright sunlight, you better reach for your S3.

limlh Senior Member • Posts: 1,168
Re: Not so fast there young man...

S3 is still the DR champ. A100 has another way of doing it, and with D80 you can set -0.7ev and use in-camera D-lighting.

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David Martin Forum Pro • Posts: 17,056
Other cameras used with the S3

Walter S Matthews wrote:

SNIP

However, outside in the sun the horses change color too fast for
the D80. It just doesn't handle the DR in the same league as the
S3. My wife shot the S3 along side of me for the formals in two
different weddings, outdoors, where I shot the D80. We were
shooting identical ISO, identical shutter speed and we were both
using the SB800 flash for fill. The bottom line is that in my shots
with the D80 about 1/3 of the shots had the dress blown or at least
so white that there was just not much detail left. This did not
happen to my wife's shots. Yes, I know, you say she is a better
photographer than I am,that may be true, but the fact remains, that
she does what I suggest for exposure and I am trying to do the same
thing with my D80 that she is doing with her S3 and it just won't
hold the highlights. It is certainly bettert than the D2X but
about the same as the D200 and clearly not adequate. Part of the
problem is that I have learned to skate very close to the edge with
the S3 because I can and with the D80 you just cannot get that
close. Next time I will dial in at least a minus .7 ev which
should cover the blown highlights but then again maybe not. I'll
have to drag my dummy and white wedding dress out to the back yard
to experiment some more.

Overall the D80 is a very nice camera, quick, responsive and with
good color. However, it ain't no S3 and when you are in bright
sunlight, you better reach for your S3.

Isn't this going to apply to any camera you use in conjunction with a S3?

You are going to need very different shooting parameters - sounds like it can cause a bit of change-around blues.
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Johnnymg2 Regular Member • Posts: 349
Thanks Walter.......... :)

Walter

Thanks for the review of the new Nikon and particularly your comments re the 'sun shots'.

FWIW, I really liked my D200 with the exception of how it handled whites in strong sun. Got to S3 for those kind of shots..................... alas the S3 is a little awkward to use because of the modest body performance. That being said, I did keep the S3 and sell the D200.

It sounds like Nikon has a big winner with this new D80 and I may get it to replace my D50.

Kind regards
JohnG

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