D60 - not rumor!!!

Started Dec 31, 2001 | Discussions
boarderphreak
boarderphreak Senior Member • Posts: 1,862
Re: Too harsh?

Paul S. wrote:

Lack of an LCD backlight was one of the reasons I sold my Elan 7
and bought an EOS 3. Now with the D30 I'm running into some of the
same headaches, though they aren't as severe, IMHO.

Yeah, it's not a big issue. Just a "wish it had..."

Oddly enough, on my A-1, I never really needed more than the basic photographic settings - granted it was a less-complicated camera... So no big thing.

The ISO setting
can be changed from the menu on the rear LCD. Also, if you push
the "Info" button while not in playback mode, it will display some
info about the camera's current state. I think it will show the
metering pattern, etc.

This is true... You can at least see most of the information that the top LCD conveys via the "info" function on the rear LCD. That's a good thing at least - as long as you don't have to change any of the settings - but even then, you could handle the one-off change here and there with this method. Good thinking - I hadn't thought of that!

What would be really nice is a mode where
the D30 displays a clone of the top LCD on the rear LCD. This
would not only be handy at night, but also when the camera is on a
tripod and you can't see the top LCD.

Now you're talking... That would be a really nice feature, I would think easy to implement - and would solve the backlighting issue.

As for flashlights, I'm a big convert to LED-based lights (huge
battery life, and very dependable). I always carry a
"Micro-Light(tm)" on my keychain for these occasions.

http://www.photonlight.com/

Very true - LED flashlights are really the way to go. Not only for battery consumption, but they really take a beating, and are often small in size. Normal flashlight bulbs are notoriously flaky and always seem to break their filaments when you needed them most...

Having said that, I'm currently still using my double AA cell mini Maglite. However, I'll definately be on the lookout for a smaller LED-based flashlight.

Good tip!

Trenton Regular Member • Posts: 409
Re: D60? That name suggests lower model than D30.

It seems pretty consistant to me. (I'm talking about EOS cameras only) Is there an instance where a higher number camera is marketed above a lower numbered one? I can't think of one, but maybe I'm wrong. Sure... the intervals are not always consistant, but...

Canon's product numbering schemes are even more confused than
Nikon's. I think about the only conclusion you can draw from them
is that the numbers are obtained by having chimpanzees throw darts
at a large board with numbers painted on it.

RichW Forum Pro • Posts: 12,838
Re: D60? That name suggests lower model than D30.

Amazing. We are reduced to wanting a camera because of the NUMBER!! Reminds my when Bill Gates went form Word 3 (or whatever) to Word 6 to keep up with WordPerfect.. and it sold like crazy!! Personally I like big numbers and will wait for the D100...... It's sure to be at least 3 times as good as the D30.

Rich

Trenton wrote:
It seems pretty consistant to me. (I'm talking about EOS cameras
only) Is there an instance where a higher number camera is
marketed above a lower numbered one? I can't think of one, but
maybe I'm wrong. Sure... the intervals are not always consistant,
but...

Canon's product numbering schemes are even more confused than
Nikon's. I think about the only conclusion you can draw from them
is that the numbers are obtained by having chimpanzees throw darts
at a large board with numbers painted on it.

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mark kay Veteran Member • Posts: 5,477
Re: D60? That name suggests lower model than D30.

There has been talk about a "rebel" like digital SLR. Perhaps the D60 is that camera rather than a true D30 upgrade? Remember when the 1D rumors were flying about it being a D30 replacement etc. with every imaginable configuration of megapixels, sensors etc. mark

Trenton wrote:
It seems pretty consistant to me. (I'm talking about EOS cameras
only) Is there an instance where a higher number camera is
marketed above a lower numbered one? I can't think of one, but
maybe I'm wrong. Sure... the intervals are not always consistant,
but...

Canon's product numbering schemes are even more confused than
Nikon's. I think about the only conclusion you can draw from them
is that the numbers are obtained by having chimpanzees throw darts
at a large board with numbers painted on it.

Trenton Regular Member • Posts: 409
Re: D60? That name suggests lower model than D30.

Who said I wanted this camera? And because of the number, at that?

I was questioning whether or not the original poster had his facts straight, because his information doesn't agree with Canon's 12 year history with EOS bodies, be they film or digital.

RichW wrote:
Amazing. We are reduced to wanting a camera because of the
NUMBER!! Reminds my when Bill Gates went form Word 3 (or whatever)
to Word 6 to keep up with WordPerfect.. and it sold like crazy!!
Personally I like big numbers and will wait for the D100......
It's sure to be at least 3 times as good as the D30.

Rich

Trenton wrote:
It seems pretty consistant to me. (I'm talking about EOS cameras
only) Is there an instance where a higher number camera is
marketed above a lower numbered one? I can't think of one, but
maybe I'm wrong. Sure... the intervals are not always consistant,
but...

Canon's product numbering schemes are even more confused than
Nikon's. I think about the only conclusion you can draw from them
is that the numbers are obtained by having chimpanzees throw darts
at a large board with numbers painted on it.

Trenton Regular Member • Posts: 409
Re: D60? That name suggests lower model than D30.

That's what I'm inclined to think too, Mark - if in fact it will go to market as the D60.

mark kay wrote:
There has been talk about a "rebel" like digital SLR. Perhaps the
D60 is that camera rather than a true D30 upgrade? Remember when
the 1D rumors were flying about it being a D30 replacement etc.
with every imaginable configuration of megapixels, sensors etc. mark

Trenton wrote:
It seems pretty consistant to me. (I'm talking about EOS cameras
only) Is there an instance where a higher number camera is
marketed above a lower numbered one? I can't think of one, but
maybe I'm wrong. Sure... the intervals are not always consistant,
but...

Canon's product numbering schemes are even more confused than
Nikon's. I think about the only conclusion you can draw from them
is that the numbers are obtained by having chimpanzees throw darts
at a large board with numbers painted on it.

mark kay Veteran Member • Posts: 5,477
Re: D60? That name suggests lower model than D30.

Perhaps there will be more than one release but they may not be made at the same time. Of course all of this is speculation. we can start a betting pool.. like they do for Sporting events in Vegas. mark

Trenton wrote:
That's what I'm inclined to think too, Mark - if in fact it will go
to market as the D60.

mark kay wrote:
There has been talk about a "rebel" like digital SLR. Perhaps the
D60 is that camera rather than a true D30 upgrade? Remember when
the 1D rumors were flying about it being a D30 replacement etc.
with every imaginable configuration of megapixels, sensors etc. mark

Trenton wrote:
It seems pretty consistant to me. (I'm talking about EOS cameras
only) Is there an instance where a higher number camera is
marketed above a lower numbered one? I can't think of one, but
maybe I'm wrong. Sure... the intervals are not always consistant,
but...

Canon's product numbering schemes are even more confused than
Nikon's. I think about the only conclusion you can draw from them
is that the numbers are obtained by having chimpanzees throw darts
at a large board with numbers painted on it.

Daniel Lauring
Daniel Lauring Veteran Member • Posts: 9,343
This would fit some earlier rumors/comments by Canon

Previously, I recall comments from Canon that they would release digital SLR's across the board, similar to their film range and that there would be a digital Rebel. Quite possibly the D60 could be their digital Rebel with a smaller consumer CCD.

Danny

Trenton wrote:

Are you sure you got the name right, Pete?

Usually with Canon, the lower the number, the higher up the camera
is on the food chain. A D60 would indicate it's a less
feature-laden camera than the D30. It seems like a D20 or a D3
would follow Canon's naming ideology. (i.e. EOS 1, 3, 5, 10s, 30,
50, 300, 500, etc...)

Trenton

Trenton Regular Member • Posts: 409
Re: D60? That name suggests lower model than D30.

This winter has been torure. I want to get a new Mac too, but it's been "strongly suggested" I wait until MacWorld Jan. 8. Ugh.

mark kay wrote:
Perhaps there will be more than one release but they may not be
made at the same time. Of course all of this is speculation. we can
start a betting pool.. like they do for Sporting events in Vegas.
mark

Trenton wrote:
That's what I'm inclined to think too, Mark - if in fact it will go
to market as the D60.

mark kay wrote:
There has been talk about a "rebel" like digital SLR. Perhaps the
D60 is that camera rather than a true D30 upgrade? Remember when
the 1D rumors were flying about it being a D30 replacement etc.
with every imaginable configuration of megapixels, sensors etc. mark

Trenton wrote:
It seems pretty consistant to me. (I'm talking about EOS cameras
only) Is there an instance where a higher number camera is
marketed above a lower numbered one? I can't think of one, but
maybe I'm wrong. Sure... the intervals are not always consistant,
but...

Canon's product numbering schemes are even more confused than
Nikon's. I think about the only conclusion you can draw from them
is that the numbers are obtained by having chimpanzees throw darts
at a large board with numbers painted on it.

Michael Martin Senior Member • Posts: 1,440
Re: This would fit some earlier rumors/comments by Canon

Daniel Lauring wrote:

Previously, I recall comments from Canon that they would release
digital SLR's across the board, similar to their film range and
that there would be a digital Rebel. Quite possibly the D60 could
be their digital Rebel with a smaller consumer CCD.

Danny

Since this new camera was announced by Monte Zucker (albeit accidentally) on another forum website, I really doubt that he would endorse any camera more consumer-like than the D30.

I have a feeling this is a 6mp CMOS camera mid-range camera, better than the D30 but lacking the 45 autofocus points of the EOS 1D.

Trenton wrote:

Are you sure you got the name right, Pete?

Usually with Canon, the lower the number, the higher up the camera
is on the food chain. A D60 would indicate it's a less
feature-laden camera than the D30. It seems like a D20 or a D3
would follow Canon's naming ideology. (i.e. EOS 1, 3, 5, 10s, 30,
50, 300, 500, etc...)

Trenton

Andrew Grant Senior Member • Posts: 2,219
Re: This would fit some earlier rumors/comments by Canon

Michael Martin wrote:

Daniel Lauring wrote:

Previously, I recall comments from Canon that they would release
digital SLR's across the board, similar to their film range and
that there would be a digital Rebel. Quite possibly the D60 could
be their digital Rebel with a smaller consumer CCD.

Danny

Since this new camera was announced by Monte Zucker (albeit
accidentally) on another forum website, I really doubt that he
would endorse any camera more consumer-like than the D30.

Why not. Perhaps he was paid to.

I have a feeling this is a 6mp CMOS camera mid-range camera, better
than the D30 but lacking the 45 autofocus points of the EOS 1D.

Possibly, but something between the D30 and the 1D is just as likely to have the 45 focus points. It could be called the 3D or the D3.

Scott Olds Senior Member • Posts: 1,112
Re: Two examples...

JCDoss wrote:

When's the last time you've seen Furrukh Khan contribute to this
forum? Now, it could be that his busy professional life took him
over, but he used to be a regular contributor and an extremely
helpful person. He simply vanished a few months ago.

Funny that you brought up Furrukh Kahn. I was wondering what had happened to him just the other day. I always enjoyed his posts and miss his participation.

Scott

Scott Olds Senior Member • Posts: 1,112
Re: Thoughtful, intelligent and helpful people...outnumbered?

Mike Kelley wrote:
I actually think most of the people who have participated here over
the last six months (and those going back even longer, before there
was a separate Canon SLR forum) are intelligent, thoughtful and
helpful individuals whom I'd love to buy a cold one. Someone like
Scott (who indeed I have disagreed with at times) fits that
category. I am desperately not trying to be elitist but it does
seem there are more and more people participating here who do not
fit that category -- it's very useless to engage in discussion with
those people.

Mike

Thanks Miike, the funny thing is that I agree with you probably about 99% of the time. Some of our disagreements have even led to my rethinking an approach or two. As for the Wacom, I really did appreciate your bringing this up. It is a big help.

Scott

Bill too Senior Member • Posts: 1,570
Re: Yeah, but...

After the Nikon 990 came the 995 and now the 5000.

billtoo

boarderphreak wrote:

Well, call me skeptical... But if Canon improved upon the D30, I
don't think they'd call it a D60. The better the camera, the LOWER
the number I would think, just like the film-based cameras.

Unless this is an internal name or temporary one... It could imply
a 6MP sensor...

Who knows.

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bill too

vpera Senior Member • Posts: 1,682
Re: D60? That name suggests lower model than D30.

Trenton wrote:

Are you sure you got the name right, Pete?

Usually with Canon, the lower the number, the higher up the camera
is on the food chain. A D60 would indicate it's a less
feature-laden camera than the D30. It seems like a D20 or a D3
would follow Canon's naming ideology. (i.e. EOS 1, 3, 5, 10s, 30,
50, 300, 500, etc...)

Trenton

I think Canon has five series of EOS SLRs:

EOS-1?, EOS-x (x > 1), EOS-x0, EOS-x00, EOS-x000.

'x' may be anything that has not been used before so in my opinion
EOS-(D)30 could be followed by e.g. EOS-(D)40. The newer camera the
better features it has, thus the whole EOS-(D)4xxx line would exceed
the current EOS-(D)3xxx line in features and functionality. The value of
'x' has no meaning or order in itself except that it identifies the "family".

EOS-1? is an exception for obvious reasons.

My opinion of course only. Any arguments against?

Vesa

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