efillink refill kits

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migla9 Regular Member • Posts: 357
efillink refill kits

Does anyone here have experience with the spongeless refill kits for the 1800 from http://www.efillink.com? I've seen quite a few helpful posts from easyrefill, but none from anyone outside the company.

David W Hitchcock New Member • Posts: 1
Re: efillink refill kits

Hello,

Although I have not used the cartridges for the printer that you are looking for advice on, I can give you feedback on the cartridges for Epson R200 and Epson R300. I have purchased and used both the cartridges and the inks. The cartridges have performed flawlessly and the inks are the quality of Epson's or better. I have been using these cartridges for several months now and the more that I use them, the more I like them. I do a lot of printing for my business and by using these products, I have saved a ton of money. I particularly like not having to remove the cartridges to reset the chips or to refill them. I am not new to refilling Epson cartridges, I have been doing it for years, but I have to admit these cartridges are the best. I know as I have tried other cartridges and other companies methods and inks although I have received satifactory results, these cartridges are far superior and much easier to use. I personally have to thank Ronnie Luk, his service is commendable. I would not hesitate to recommend anybody to him or his products. I hope that this information is helpful to you and that you end up using these products, I assure you that you will not regret your decision.
David W Hitchcock

JeanMarie GERARD New Member • Posts: 14
Re: efillink refill kits

My first language is French, but I am happy to share my review of one of 5 CIS systems I have tested. Hope this will help those of you looking for a good CIS for your R2400 or R1800.

You can also see my reviews in French in other French forums.

I've tested several continuous ink systems and I was disappointed either by the quality of the inks or the CIS

I had first tested the MIS system but after too many problems I had given up:

  • the cartridges reset did not work

  • the ink feed ribbons/lines were wedged

  • I have waited for 3 weeks and no reply from MIS

I had also tested a system from Ebay seen in the URL below:

  • the system functions well but inks are not of the quality I expected

There are 2 other system I have not yet tested:
Lyson
Inkfly

Here is a system I found which gives me complete satisfaction from efillink:

http://www.efillink.com/index.html

I received my package from Efillink last week. Packing is of quality and the parts are well protected in the package.

I do not find the details of the installation in the package, but the videos on the web site at Efillink details the installation step by step and it is very easy to implement:

http://www.inkfillshop.com/R1800CIS-1.html

In my web site you can see the mounting of the ink feed ribbons and their support mounting bracket

the system requrires 3 batteries LR6 and there is a button on-off switch that controls the low ink alert systems and the air inlet to the ink bottles.

LEDS on the front indicates when the bottles should be refilled. This is the low ink alert to indicate when the bottle is almost empty.

This is very important: if a bottle is empty, air will goes in the ink feed ribbons and move into the cartridge. Running the printer with an empty cartridge could potentially damage the print heads.

There is a version of the R2400 Ink System Pro that allows exchange of the PK and MK cartridges. Both cartridges are connected to the system and they are easily interchangable:

http://www.inkfillshop.com/efillinkR2400_Swap.html

I did not find other suppliers who has the chip/cartridge that reset so nicely.(The chip will reset at 20% to 90% )

9 syringes are provided with the system for filling the bottles and the cartridges.

Extra items makes it easy:

The package contains a bottle of cleaning fluid and a syringe with a flexible tube. I did not use it initially.

After two prints from the printer, the print did not come out right.
I realized that the system used bad quality inks previously.

To convert to the new ink and the Ink System Pro, I use a syringe and fitted a small flexible tube and fit it on the nipple which comes with the cartridge.

I put 1 ml of the cleaning fluid and await 1 min then. I used the syringe to purge the air in the cartridge. After the print nozzle was purged of the old inks, the printer works fine.

Another easy way: to feed ink into the lines, I used SSC Service Utility with the function Head Cleaning ==> Powerful
cleaning: http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml

On the site of the supplier, the recommendation is : The ink tank must be positioned slightly below the cartridges.

The inks that came with the package are of exceptional quality. My prints are identical to inks of the original inks, color and B&W.

For the moment I have tested with of Premium Glossy, Semi-gloss and Moab KOKOPELLI. I use with Photoshop CS2 with Epson profiles (and Moab)

without having any problem. I also compare to the monitor screen (Dell Trinitron 21" gauged with 5500?K).

The system functions perfectly

Here is a picture of the system in action. If you want to see more photographs of the Efillink system, you can go on my web site:
http://www.jmg-photos.fr/photos/thumbnails.php?album=37

People from Efillink are really responsive and answer very quickly when I email and with questions. A quality of service which I really appreciate.

Prices for R2400:

  • complete system with 8 inks 247$

  • complete system with 9 inks 287$

Also exist for various printers Epson, Canon and Hp

Dominic.Chan Veteran Member • Posts: 6,168
Re: efillink refill kits - credibility?

migla9 wrote:

Does anyone here have experience with the spongeless refill kits
for the 1800 from http://www.efillink.com? I've seen quite a few helpful
posts from easyrefill, but none from anyone outside the company.

Well, there has been three posts speaking highly of efillink.com. All three were from people who joined the forum just the day before the post, and who have posted nothing else:

monaco mirco
David W. Hitchcock
JeanMarie GERARD

Quite a coincident, don't you think?

JeanMarie GERARD New Member • Posts: 14
Re: efillink refill kits - credibility?

Dominic.Chan wrote:

migla9 wrote:

Does anyone here have experience with the spongeless refill kits
for the 1800 from http://www.efillink.com? I've seen quite a few helpful
posts from easyrefill, but none from anyone outside the company.

Well, there has been three posts speaking highly of efillink.com.
All three were from people who joined the forum just the day before
the post, and who have posted nothing else:

monaco mirco
David W. Hitchcock
JeanMarie GERARD

Quite a coincident, don't you think?

I'm French and my English isn't very fine. A friend help me to translate my precedent post. Before, i read only the review. To post, i must be register...that i do. Yes, it's my first post.. thank you very much Mister migla9 for your welcome..

JeanMarie GERARD New Member • Posts: 14
Re: efillink refill kits - credibility?

Correction: thank you Mister Chan for your Welcome.... ;-(

kkenn Regular Member • Posts: 205
Re: efillink refill kits

I too am looking for a good refillable/CI system for my newly aquired R1800.

I too have tried the CIS for my R300 from e-bay with the same results. I notice that the tanks used in the e-bay system are the same tanks that come with the budget system on efill's home page. This makes me more than a little nervous.

Dominic.Chan Veteran Member • Posts: 6,168
Re: efillink refill kits - credibility?

JeanMarie GERARD wrote:

Correction: thank you Mister Chan for your Welcome.... ;-(

My comment was not directed at any of the individuals. Obviously, we all are new here, at some point in time.

My question was collectively , what is the likelihood that three brand new users just happen to join at about the same time, all commenting positivelly on the same product, and on nothing else.

I apologize it that offended you.

JeanMarie GERARD New Member • Posts: 14
Re: efillink refill kits

I think that the inks are'nt similar...

EJS Veteran Member • Posts: 3,778
Jean,where's the others

That's a really beautiful and nicely laid out description of only one product you said you tested.

It looks almost identical to layouts on sites selling products.

Where are the same type of detailed reviews of all the others you say you tested.?

JeanMarie GERARD New Member • Posts: 14
Re: Jean,where's the others
JeanMarie GERARD New Member • Posts: 14
Re: efillink refill kits

kkenn wrote:

I too am looking for a good refillable/CI system for my newly
aquired R1800.
I too have tried the CIS for my R300 from e-bay with the same
results. I notice that the tanks used in the e-bay system are the
same tanks that come with the budget system on efill's home page.
This makes me more than a little nervous.

This is a pict of the system bought in Ebay:

and see the difference between both:

you know now that i say "the inks aren't similar"

nikonman1957 New Member • Posts: 7
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I've read your review with GREAT INTEREST. Please tell me that these inks ACTUALLY WORK. Price is not an issue with me. I print 400-500 prints a week and have been looking for a way to save on ink... and yes, I've tried several 3rd party ink/CIS systems. My main issue is that I don't want to re-profile all the different papers I use. I like the Epson profiles... THEY WORK! Any feedback is welcome!

nikonman1957 New Member • Posts: 7
Re: efillink refill kits

OK... I'm ready to try yet another Epson replacement! I just tossed Media street's R800-R1800 ink. It was garbage! Even with their own profiles.. total junk and a total waste of my time and money. So... how does your ink compare? Be totally honest with me please... and No, I don't work for Epson. I print for my living and am looking for an after market product that WILL ACTUALLY DELIVER! I just don't want to re-profile all of the papers I use. I like the Epson profiles... THEY WORK! Please convince me that I won't throw your ink out with the trash! If it works I will be a life long customer. I currently print 400-500 prints a week. I use one R800 and Three 2400's

Exul Senior Member • Posts: 1,181
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I doubt that you will find a third party pigment ink that is 100% the same as Epson pigment ink. So you will need to profile all your papers.

If price really is no problem, then you should probably buy the hardware and software to make your own profiles, or just use the Epson inks.

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i3c Regular Member • Posts: 261
Re: efillink refill kits

I too have been following the 3rd Party ink discussions with great interest.

Could you expand a bit on what was junky about Media Streets? I'm just curious because I see opinions that go both ways and i don't really feel better informed.

Who knows where these inks come from? Who knows if they'll be the same next time you order a refill?

It seems the only way i'm going to what works and what doesn't is to try them all myself.

Wouldn't it be great to see and independant, scientific evaluation of the 3rd party inks!

ChillPill2 Regular Member • Posts: 204
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nikonman1957 wrote:

If it works I will be a life long customer.
I currently print 400-500 prints a week. I use one R800 and Three
2400's

If that is the case, you really need to use CIS, that can make your life so much easier if you have CIS installed correctly and properly.

The most reliable system is from InkRepublic.com

http://www.inkrepublic.com/ProductDetail.asp?item=R800

different tubes, different desgin, different cartridge from ebay and any other made-in-china flow system.

it may help you to understand the difference if you read the online feedbacks before you heading to ebay.

http://www.inkrepublic.com/reviews.asp
http://www.inkrepublic.com/testimonials.asp

also, always make sure you re-order inks from weink, mediastreet, lyson, inkrepublic, mis. definitely not from ebay. This is for quality purpose.

i3c Regular Member • Posts: 261
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ChillPill2 wrote:

it may help you to understand the difference if you read the online
feedbacks before you heading to ebay.

http://www.inkrepublic.com/reviews.asp
http://www.inkrepublic.com/testimonials.asp

i agree it makes sense to listen to other people's experience but relying on the testimonials that are posted by the company that is selling the product doesn't.
Of course they are only going to display glowing reviews.

most of the ebay sellers have 98-100% positive feedback.

i still don't feel any better informed.

ChillPill2 Regular Member • Posts: 204
of course, they are just reference.

on the other hand, several websites posting InkRepublic's reviews.
Most of the reviews are posted on end user's sites, not from IR directly.

they are good and authentic reference anyway.

http://www.jondokken.com/EpsonCIS/EpsonCIS.htm
http://www.ningalooreefteach.com/inkrepublic/ink.htm
http://www.brandonstaggs.com/epson-r200-continous-ink-system-review.html

good luck!

JohnJ80 Senior Member • Posts: 1,894
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It is unrealistic to presume that Epson's profiles would work with any other ink. You wouldn't use another paper with Epson ink and the Epson profile and presume that would work either.

The only place Epson's profiles are useful is for Epson ink with Epson paper. Period.

You will not find an ink that precisely matches Epson. The gamuts are all slightly different. Some inks are have a better/wider gamut, some don't. You can compare these in the colorsync utility (on a mac). I would guess there is a similar facility on Windows. Then you can see for yourself.

You will need to use profiles for your new ink if you use a CIS. Unless, of course, you find a way to get bulk Epson inks. If so, please tell us.

J.

nikonman1957 wrote:

I've read your review with GREAT INTEREST. Please tell me that
these inks ACTUALLY WORK. Price is not an issue with me. I print
400-500 prints a week and have been looking for a way to save on
ink... and yes, I've tried several 3rd party ink/CIS systems. My
main issue is that I don't want to re-profile all the different
papers I use. I like the Epson profiles... THEY WORK! Any feedback
is welcome!

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