Zenitar 16 FE- presentation and samples

Started Mar 18, 2006 | Discussions
Rupert60 Forum Pro • Posts: 12,731
Re: Zenitar 16 FE- presentation and samples

Jonas, thanks so much for taking the time to do this. The Z is indeed a fine piece of fun and gives some quality shots. Here are a couple of my first shots, could have been better if I hadn't shot wide open!

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Jim King Veteran Member • Posts: 8,396
Re: Resolution and flare

I have seen a bit more flare with the sun in the image than you show in these images, but I see a similar pattern of flare. Interestingly, my Pentax A16/2.8 FE shows more flare around to the sun's image than my Zenitar, and more PF at high contrast edges too. IMO the Zenitar is really a bargain for what it delivers. Now if Pentax will only restore the aperture sensing mount in the upcoming D replacement the Zenitar will be almost perfect...
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jthommo Veteran Member • Posts: 3,735
Re: Zenitar 16 FE- presentation and samples

How did you know my Zenitar arrived yesterday Thanks for this e-manual, it's brilliant.
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janneman02 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,733
Some ZeniJannemans

and a zenipano

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Chuck A Wulla Contributing Member • Posts: 618
Thanks

I don't shoot much WA but the Z looks like fun.

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RoscoT Senior Member • Posts: 2,943
Another sample

I've posted this before, but it is one of my favorite "Z" shots.
DS ,Zenitar 16mm f/2.8 MC Fisheye 1/90s f16.0 iso200

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OP Jonas B Forum Pro • Posts: 14,596
Re: Resolution and flare

You are saying "No thanks to crippled mounts!"? Yes, indeed, it would be great with a restored and improved lens mount.

The level of flare...

all flare test images are unaltered. I shot them in raw format, used ACR for the conversion and had curves and sliders at neutral. In the first two the sun isn't really shining right into the front lens. I placed myself in the position where the sun just barely dissapeared behind the house. So, they show the expected lower contrast level. The last image with the sun over the bridge and the cars was taken the day before yesterday, in the afternoon. I can only guess it gets worse in the summertime. I can also think of sample variations.

Jonas

Jim King wrote:

I have seen a bit more flare with the sun in the image than you
show in these images, but I see a similar pattern of flare.
Interestingly, my Pentax A16/2.8 FE shows more flare around to the
sun's image than my Zenitar, and more PF at high contrast edges
too. IMO the Zenitar is really a bargain for what it delivers.
Now if Pentax will only restore the aperture sensing mount in the
upcoming D replacement the Zenitar will be almost perfect...

OP Jonas B Forum Pro • Posts: 14,596
About thank you posts from me

Thank you for the samples. I mention noone, adressing all of you.

Hey, I'm not gonna watch the thread and clutter it with a lot of "Thank you for the sample" posts. Your samples are all valuable as they show the abilities and limits of the lens. I hope for a lot moore of different samples. Contributing with a sample, or a comment or a correction means you are helping people interested the lens. That is a good thing. It increases your possibilities for getting resurrected in a world with an improved version of mankind in it. What goes around comes around...

Cheers,

Jonas

DonKey New Member • Posts: 14
Another sample

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philzucker Veteran Member • Posts: 8,657
Samples ....

I love the Zenitar - and realize that I do a lot of my pictures and panos with it.

Okay. I was asked to post samples, and here they are:

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Rupert60 Forum Pro • Posts: 12,731
Re: Samples ....

Great! I love that last one. BTW, is that you hanging from the cable? I don't know which is scarier, hanging upside down from a cable, or letting someone else use your Pentax to take the shot!
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jackfrost15 Regular Member • Posts: 332
Re: How to buy

Jonas B wrote:

How to buy
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Most people here in the forum have bought there Zenitar from
Victor. You find him at eBay - do a search for ebay user "zenitar".
Dealing with Victor has been easy and free from hassles. There are
also a few shops selling the Zenitar. Rugift may be one of them,
there can be others as well.

Opening the box from Victor is a moment of time travelling. The
smell of bakelite, the quirky feeling of the aperture ring, the
uneven coating of the front lens, the text on the hood and the
small extra coloured filters...
The lens comes with a front cap of low quality. Search for a post
by Frank for another approach. At the rear end of the lens there is
a little 26.5mm filter. It is made of clear glass and most probably
don't think of it. It can be replaced by one of the coloured
filters coming with the lens. Now we are at DPR and for digital use
these filters are obsolete. Leave the clear glass filter at place.
It's part of the optical construction and removing it will make the
lens focusing scale out of clibration.

Heard of focusing problems? It happens that the lens needs to be
adjusted to get the infinity mark on the distance scale to really
mean infinity. It isn't hard to do this adjustment at the kitchen
table. The steps to take are described elsewhere.
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Where are the steps described please? Do they all have focusing issues? I got mine yesterday and I haven't had a chance to use it yet.
Looks great though, nice and solid.

Bummer about the colored filters, I was looking forward to playing with those things.
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LuzArt Veteran Member • Posts: 6,643
Re: A contribution

I think this may be the first Zen shot i saw from you Guy, before i had mine. Nice shot too. Hope to see some more on here from you.

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asad_masede Senior Member • Posts: 2,719
Re: Zenitar 16 FE- presentation and samples

The usefulness of this thread cannot be over-stated, at least for me. It's interesting because I am thinking of ordering one in M42 version so it can fit on the Spotmatic as well. This is a very nice and handy read, thanks a bunch!

Two Russian lenses that I want, the Z and a Jupiter-9, both in M42 mount.
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jetseteclipse500 Regular Member • Posts: 477
Re: How to buy

Thanks for the tip! I have been wondering where I might unearth one... no one locally has ever heard of Zenitar.
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GuyM Senior Member • Posts: 1,167
Thanks

Thanks Ben. Surprised I hadn't already bored you with it. Funny, due to this forum I bought the Zen waaay before picking up my DS. No regrets at all. It's become a real favourite.

I should've added for those who are contemplating picking up a Zen that this shot has no digital persepective correction. Align the horizon with the centre of the lens and it remains dead straight.

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OP Jonas B Forum Pro • Posts: 14,596
Focus fix here

Not all zenitars comes with badly adjusted focusing ring. But some obviously do. You can fix it yourself with no problems. The first time I read about how to do it was a year ago, in a post by John Bean:

"Oh - you have got the clear filter screwed in the back? If not it won't focus correctly.

Assuming you have the filter in place and you want to adjust the infinity focus point it's very easy to do. Peel back the rubber of the focus grip to reveal three set screws. Set to infinity then loosen the screws so you can turn the ring back to (say) 1m and re-tighten. Find the true infinity point visually. Slacken screws, reset ring to the infinity mark, tighten screws. Job done."

And at another place:

"Which can be adjusted in seconds

1. Peel back rubber grip to expose set screw
2. Slacken screws slightly, move focus ring well past infinity
3. Retighten screws. Focus lens on infinity by eye
4. Slacken scress, align focus ring with infinity mark.
5. Tighten screw, job done. "

Sources:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=12799095
and
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=14712175
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DaleDrechsler Contributing Member • Posts: 710
Example two shot pano image - DL + Zenitar

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Stuart_M New Member • Posts: 18
More Zeni Zamples

Here are the first two shots I took with the Zenitar:

Nothing fancy, but hopefully will give you some idea of this lens in use.

janneman02 Forum Pro • Posts: 15,733
Example three (or four??) shot pano image - Ds + Zenitar

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