Cleaning sensor with tape?

Started Jan 2, 2006 | Discussions
Bill Karadimos Veteran Member • Posts: 4,675
Cleaning sensor with tape?

Here ia a like for different cleaning methods..

Scotch Tape - Use the sticky tape to remove unwanted dust.

Pros: Tape is real cheap.

Cons: You might get that piece of dust, but what about all that adhesive goo left behind. Not only no, but heck no!
http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/methods.html
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Thomas Bauer Senior Member • Posts: 2,923
~(Some people swear by it...

...I woudn't clean my lenses with it
So...
I would never trust it on my 10,000,000.00 pixle sensor
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OP Bill Karadimos Veteran Member • Posts: 4,675
Re: ~(Some people swear by it...

I agree...
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raymondox Veteran Member • Posts: 3,680
Re: ~(Some people swear by it...

If you had a piece of dust in your eye would you prefer to clean it with a soft cloth soaked in the right cleansing liquid or clean by stickinh cellotape to it.

Just a thought but I think I'd use a soft cloth with the right cleaning fluid.

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GPSMapNut Senior Member • Posts: 1,986
Re: ~(Some people swear by it...

raymondox wrote:

If you had a piece of dust in your eye would you prefer to clean it
with a soft cloth soaked in the right cleansing liquid or clean by
stickinh cellotape to it.

Just a thought but I think I'd use a soft cloth with the right
cleaning fluid.

Obviously you are trolling but I'm game ;-))

Yeah, stick soft cloth in your eye and drag the grid across your eye lens… I’m no medical expert but, I advice against it. Just rinse it. Now, if you want to rinse your sensor, go for it. I won’t.

With sensor, first I use a blower. Again, I don’t advice using it when cleaning your eyes which are much softer than the low pass filter on the sensor.

If there is anything left, I use tape. With tape, I don’t drag any grid on the low pass filter but lift it straight out. I used the method few times and haven’t head any residue left.

For the curious soles, more about the tape in:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=14895135

Lionheart, I lost the link to your website with details. Can you post it, please.

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SebastianJ Senior Member • Posts: 1,893
Re: ~(Some people swear by it...

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NoFunBen Contributing Member • Posts: 579
good info on that website

Cons: You might get that piece of dust, but what about all that
adhesive goo left behind. Not only no, but heck no!
http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/methods.html
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i have used tape with out any stuff left, but i have seen most of the ways of cleaning used with good results. but i have also seen most of the methods used with bad results. skill is a big part of any cleaning going well.

I have even seen one guy use a camel hair brush to pull dust off the sensor with static electricity

Lionheart 705 Senior Member • Posts: 1,941
GPS - Scotch Tape cleaning method
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This a copy of something I posted before:

I do not advocate anyone else using Scotch Tape, but for those asking for advice on the different methods of cleaning, here are my thoughts:

I have used Scotch Magic Tape to clean my sensor filter many times without any ill-effects. I know that to be the case because I had my local Nikon service agent check-out the sensor for damage and residue after approximately 10 cleans and after explaining what I had done. They reported nil damage and nil residue - just a perfectly clean sensor.

I find it a quick, simple, inexpensive and effective way of cleaning. I also believe it to be the method least likely to cause damage, although damage is very unlikely, whichever method you choose (see below)

Here is what I do................

1. Use only Scotch Magic Tape no 810 or 811. .

2. Use only a clean piece of tape (check it visually for contamination and discard if necessary) and store the roll in a sealed plastic bag. Use it ONLY for this purpose and take care not to touch the surface to be used with your fingers or allow it to come into contact with anything else.

3. Cut a piece approximately 6" long. Fold it in half, "sticky" side facing out.

4. Perform a mirror lock-up, making sure you have a fully charged battery to avoid shut-down during cleaning

5. Make sure you work under a good light - a desk light is ideal. A magnifying glass in invaluable and better than a jewellers loupe. With a loupe the magnification is so great that you need your head inside the camera to focus and this will also cut down the light available.. A magnifying glass allows you to focus from some inches away. You only need the glass to check for dust before and after cleaning.

6. Using a non-sharp plastic spatula, pen top or similar, gently push the centre of the folded tape inside and onto the sensor amd press it down along the length of the filter. You will find the tape is almost the same width as the filter.

7. When the tape is evenly spread along the filter, with no air bubbles visible, pull on one of the "tails" you are holding (hence the reason for a 6" piece) and lift the tape off. Most times this will be enough to remove all dust specs, although now and again you will need to repeat.

For & Against

Pros:

1. It cleans by a "lifting" action, not a "dragging" action. Having tried pads & liquid and failed miserably after even 11 separate passes to clean the sensor, during which all the debris (which may include minute pieces of grit of course) was dragged backwards & forwards across the sensor, I believe the potential for damage is far higher using this method. My experience of pads is not at all uncommon and has frequently been mentioned on this forum. Realistically, whichever method you use is highly unlikely to cause damage, so it's academic in any case - see 4 below.

2. Tape is a method that can be used anywhere out in the field, is inexpensive and highly portable.

3. Although I use a blower first, you do risk blowing debris & dust into other parts of the camera, unlike with tape.

4. A poster stated that the low-pass filter that sits on top of the CCD is made of lithium niobate. This is a crystal with a Mohs hardness rating of 5, meaning you can scratch it with a pocket knife, but just barely. In other words, it is a very hard substance and unlikely to be damage by tape, pads & liquid, brushes or anything else within reason that anyone other than a complete idiot is likely to use to clean it. It is after all only the filter, not the CCD itself we are cleaning.

Cons:

I personally know of none, but in the interests of objectivity, here are one or two that others have claimed.

5. "The tape leaves residue". Never in my experience. Like a computer, put c* p in, get c p out, so make sure the tape is used only for the purpose , is stored cleanly and is not obviously contaminated with dust before using. If it did leave residue, so what? It will have done no damage and you just clean it off with liquid & pads, (but make sure you have some method of cleaning off the smears that it frequently leaves). Both methods can be used together. I promise you Armageddon will not follow. When all is said and done, the filter must have needed cleaning in the first place, otherwise why would you be doing it? You have nothing to lose by trying and can be no worse off.

6. "You can damage your sensor using tape". Heard often but never a single example posted. In fact I can't recall anyone ever reporting a damaged sensor or filter caused by any means at all.

7. "The tape left oil all over my sensor". It may have done but not in my experience and I have never heard of anyone else stating it. The poster making that claim (which he does almost every time this subject comes up) says others have had the same experience, but when asked to post the links to them he is either unable or unwilling to do so and goes away. You must judge how seriously to take that claim. I don't say it couldn't happen but is clearly so rare that if it did happen it was sheer bad luck and we would certainly have heard by now if it was anything else. Again, so what if it did? In the unlikely event that you have a roll of tape smothered in oil, clean it off............

That's the method. You must decide whether to use it or not. The other methods are all perfectly fine in my view and each has its advantages and disadvantages.

Each of us needs to clean the filter at some time. You either pay Nikon

around £30 each time in the UK, lose you camera for a couple of weeks and pay Special delivery charges both ways or take it in yourself and wait around every few weeks, or find a way to do it yourself.

Lionheart

Lionheart 705 Senior Member • Posts: 1,941
Another satisfied user.......

Hot off the press - I just spotted this from Daniel posted yesterday....

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=16532653

Lionheart

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Tore Lund Senior Member • Posts: 2,657
What about Post-It?

Lionheart 705 wrote:

1. Use only Scotch Magic Tape no 810 or 811. .

Someone said somewhere that the glue used in one of these tapes is identical to the glue in Post-It scraps. So has anyone tried Post-It? Any reason to believe it will/won't work as well as Scotch Tape?
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Lionheart 705 Senior Member • Posts: 1,941
Re: What about Post-It?

Tore Lund wrote:

Lionheart 705 wrote:

1. Use only Scotch Magic Tape no 810 or 811. .

Someone said somewhere that the glue used in one of these tapes is
identical to the glue in Post-It scraps. So has anyone tried
Post-It? Any reason to believe it will/won't work as well as
Scotch Tape?
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Tore
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Good point Tore - several people have used it with good results, so I think probably just as good.

Lionheart

Dragons slain, trolls hung, drawn & quartered, (this is a completely free public service), witches burnt at the stake, serfs freed, maidens rescued, crusades fought, moats dug, sieges mounted, armour de-rusted, swords sharpened, boils lanced, teeth pulled, night soil collected, scolds bridled, outlaws hunted, virgins deflowered - call for free estimate

GPSMapNut Senior Member • Posts: 1,986
Re: What about Post-It?

I'd be hesitant using Post-It - they are stacked with adhesive touching paper paper. When you seperate them, it's (I think) possible that some fine dust of the paper will be picked by the adhesive and than applied to the sensor's filter... OTOH, that dust in the adhesive more than likely will stay in the adhesive and not be left behind. In any case, if you want to try it, try it first on a piece of glass.

Hmm, I've seen some 3M page markers - a colored plastic strips with adhesive at one end. May be easy to manipulate. If I remember when going to Staples, I'll pick a package and try it.
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knickerhawk Veteran Member • Posts: 6,402
Re: What about Post-It?

GPSMapNut wrote:

I'd be hesitant using Post-It - they are stacked with adhesive
touching paper paper. When you seperate them, it's (I think)
possible that some fine dust of the paper will be picked by the
adhesive and than applied to the sensor's filter... OTOH, that dust
in the adhesive more than likely will stay in the adhesive and not
be left behind. In any case, if you want to try it, try it first on
a piece of glass.
Hmm, I've seen some 3M page markers - a colored plastic strips with
adhesive at one end. May be easy to manipulate. If I remember when
going to Staples, I'll pick a package and try it.
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Yes, the plastic versions are what I've used with good results. I went this route rather than tape because it's easier to handle the little plastic pieces. Plus they come in a little container that seals out contaminants pretty well. Of course, as with any cleaning method, one should test thoroughly on a filter or mirror first to make sure the chosen technique and material works.

George Senior Member • Posts: 1,358
Re: What about Screen Protectors?

I was thinking that even though you don't have a issue with residue I still cant bring myself to use the tape. I thought of the screen protectors because of the lack of residue they have from using them on my LCD screens as they are good to the plastic on them. What do you guys think? Thanks!
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GPSMapNut Senior Member • Posts: 1,986
Re: What about Screen Protectors?

It may work. Try it on a piece of glass (a UV lens filter?) first.
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