What is your favorite RAW converter with the D2x

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Rob Tobler Regular Member • Posts: 487
What is your favorite RAW converter with the D2x

I have been doing everything in PSCS2 with the D2h, but am wondering if Capture will do a better job with the WB. I hate how it slows down the flow to have to use two separate pieces of software.

Those of you using CS2 to fully process your NEFs, are you happy with how the ones form the D2X turn out?

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Robin Casady Forum Pro • Posts: 12,898
I like ACR

On the Mac, Capture 4.3.1 puts some odd crenelations on some edges.

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Jeremy Shervell Regular Member • Posts: 198
Capture One Pro

Great workflow, excellent results.

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David L. Moore
David L. Moore Contributing Member • Posts: 827
Bridge and ACR

Calibrated ACR works very well for me and with the upgrade that decodes NEF’s I don’t get the odd white balance shot I use to get every once and awhile. I have the latest Nikon Capture but never use it as I did not want to learn a new software program. What I use NC for is to program custom settings and curves to the camera.

But ACR is only half of the workflow. Bridge has become the place I do all my editing, sorting, captioning and key wording. Bridge and ACR is where I spend most of my time and I now use Photoshop mostly for batch processing NEFs (tweaked with ACR) into other formats.

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v_ Senior Member • Posts: 1,926
Nikon Capture

I have tried a bunch of different converters, but still love Nikon Capture!
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Cresence Regular Member • Posts: 251
A similar thread + some additional references

Dear Mr. Tobler,

We just spent a day beating to death the general topic of RAW conversion. You might want to check out those portions of the thread dealing with specific converters. The link is:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=15791677

Articles of interest to anyone using Nikon's NEF files, and more broadly on some of the challenges of RAW conversion for third-party developers, are located here:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0504/05041901nikon_encryptnef.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0504/05042701davecoffininterview.asp

In the thread cited above, no one converter emerged as best. Those posting seemed to favor the following third-party converters the most:

Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) converter:
http://softwareupdates.adobe.com/updates/detail.jsp?cid=3035

RawShooter:
http://www.rawworkflow.com/products/rse/index.html

Raw Magick (beta version):
http://www.rawmagick.com/

Digital Outback has published what look to be informative e-books on RAW conversion, with specific write-ups on ACR, RawShooter, and other converters. Links include:

http://www.outbackphoto.com/booklets/dop3002/DOP3002.html
http://www.outbackphoto.com/booklets/dop3002rsp/DOP3002RSP.html

For PS users, Adobe has published "Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS2" by Bruce Fraser. Others on the forum have nice things to say about this book. The link is:

http://store.adobe.com/store/products/master.jhtml ;store?id=catBook_RealWorld_CamRaw_PHSP&ref=Secondary

If you do a Google search on "RAW converter comparison", you will get a number of promising Internet links. Thom Hogan in particular has a comparative analysis of RAW converters for Nikon DSLR's. The link is:

http://www.bythom.com/raw.htm

I hope this helps. Others in the forum were kind enough to help me out on this matter, so they should really get the credit for any help rendered.

Best regards,
Ross

mapix Forum Member • Posts: 66
Re: CS & File Browser

I use PS cs and was looking forward to the CS2 upgrade til I heard that the file browser (called Bridge) was a seperate application. My workflow is just as important as actually shooting the images. I like the fact that I can open one application and get everything done with out switching from here to there. I may be wrong and if people out there know some thing better than this, please let me know. I shoot both Raw and Jpeg and get it all finished with one program.

I have Capture and find it dreadfully slow and will not use it for anything but non-work related images.

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jeminijoseph Veteran Member • Posts: 6,185
David..

I'm trying to use ACR most of the time as Capture too slow on my computer. But I found I could never get Red right with ACR.It's more Orange than Red. How's it for you? Can you please tell us your caliberated settings? I tried the ACR Caliberator once and the result was dissappointing. When I input those values the picture became B&W..
I do have a Macbeth color checker.

Would you mind sharing the settings?

About WB. I always use ACR's WB. Never depend on what ACR tells me. Just adjust the tint and color temperature to get it right.

Thanks
Jemini

David L. Moore wrote:

Calibrated ACR works very well for me and with the upgrade that
decodes NEF’s I don’t get the odd white balance shot I use to get
every once and awhile. I have the latest Nikon Capture but never
use it as I did not want to learn a new software program. What I
use NC for is to program custom settings and curves to the camera.

But ACR is only half of the workflow. Bridge has become the place I
do all my editing, sorting, captioning and key wording. Bridge and
ACR is where I spend most of my time and I now use Photoshop mostly
for batch processing NEFs (tweaked with ACR) into other formats.

David L. Moore
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anotherMike Veteran Member • Posts: 8,514
Capture

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Steve Regular Member • Posts: 321
Re: Nikon Capture

No offense but how can you use Nikon Capture. Its slow to use and the results are horrible color wise when you compare them to any other peice of software. I'm not asking this trying to put you down but rather hoping that you will tell me something that will change my mind and maybe I'm missing something completely in the software.
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padeye Veteran Member • Posts: 3,863
What is the latest version you've used?

I'm still happy with capture as it has all the control I need and I don't have problems with speed or getting the color I want. I haven't tried any other products in the past year so what do you suggest instead?
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Steve Regular Member • Posts: 321
Re: What is the latest version you've used?

Phase One Capture 1 is far superior to Nikon Capture. The color is much cleaner and more accurate, and if you are doing any sort of batch color correction... without a question Phase One software will blow the socks off of even Adobe software. The processing into jpegs is not super fast... but no software is. The beauty of Phase one is that it will run in the background while you keep working on other images. It's great.
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Cresence Regular Member • Posts: 251
Competitive matrix

The following link is to a feature comparison of RawShooter, Capture One, and ACR/Bridge. It's from pixmantec, the producers of RawShooter, but still appears useful for getting a handle on RAW converters:

http://www.pixmantec.com/pdf/rawshooter_premium/competitive.pdf

tomoo1000 Senior Member • Posts: 1,933
Bibble & Capture
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jb_va2001 Veteran Member • Posts: 7,741
Nikon Capture. /nt

Rob Tobler wrote:

I have been doing everything in PSCS2 with the D2h, but am
wondering if Capture will do a better job with the WB. I hate how
it slows down the flow to have to use two separate pieces of
software.

Those of you using CS2 to fully process your NEFs, are you happy
with how the ones form the D2X turn out?

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Jim Fenton Veteran Member • Posts: 4,432
Nikon Capture (nt)
Bartman01 Contributing Member • Posts: 535
ACR Doesn't use custom Curves.

David L. Moore wrote:

...What I
use NC for is to program custom settings and curves to the camera...

You do realize that ACR will not use any custom curves you have loaded to the camera? It applies it's own curve (now user configurable with CS2) to the image.

Of course you could be using custom curves for those times you shoot straight to JPG.

David L. Moore
David L. Moore Contributing Member • Posts: 827
My settings

Jemini,

If you are using ACR I highly recommend the book “Real World Camera Raw with Adobe PhotoShop CS2”. In the book I found a link to script that calibrates the Macbeth color checker image taken with your camera automatically in PhotoShop.

http://fors.net/chromoholics/download/

This script did all the work but it took over an hour to do it. Below are the settings that it produced for MY CAMERA so I don’t know how well they will work for YOUR CAMERA. I would recommend that you take the time and calibrate ACR for your camera. Using the script it is very easy to do.

Color Temp: 4950
Tint: -6
Exposure: -0.15
Shadows: 2
Brightness: 37
Contrast: -21
Saturation: 0
Shadow Tint: 3
Red Hue: -18
Red Sat: 35
Green Hue: -13
Green Sat: -9
Blue Hue: 6
Blue Sat: 3

I shoot mostly using automatic white balance and use a WhiBal to set the color in ACR.

Bartman,

Ok you got me, I don’t use NC, and it is just taking up hard disk space.

I hope this helps,

David L. Moore
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Julius Contributing Member • Posts: 854
Nikon Capture

I have Bibble, RSP, Breezebrowser Pro, PS CS2 ARC 3.2, but nothing comes even close in color and details to Nikon Capture.

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hurtsme Senior Member • Posts: 1,883
Raw Shooter Premium...

After initially not taking a liking to it (or RSE), after making my custom preferences and playing with it a bit I find it the best of the lot. Great Capture-like color, with the speed and flexibility of Adobe Camera Raw. The key was getting my "tweaks" just right, and setting them up to use as custom looks.

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