5D images from India - the best yet

Started Nov 5, 2005 | Discussions
Inge Stubdal Regular Member • Posts: 266
Barca

Yeah. I would like to have 45 point AF + weather sealing in a 5D.

I thought you might be from Barcelona, when I saw your pic from Las Ramblas

Again, very nice work! An inspiration for me! I hope I will have time to get a few interesting shots in Barca next week, unfortunately I'll be working long days all week.

Anything you'd recommend to shoot this time of year, early afternoon (sunday) or later in the evening?

ps. I've been there a couple of times before, so I know my way around and have done most of the obligatory tourist visits A lovely city!! If you'd care to grab a bite on sunday night, Nov 13th, I'd love to.

-Inge

jrodrigo wrote:

Comparing to 1D MarkII, the only thing I would miss is the 45
points of AF. But I don't like 1.3x crop, nor complicate menus,
size and weight... With the 5D I can choose to use a grip to have a
more consistent camara and to shot vertically, but also take off
the grip to go on road.

Also I would choose to have always the ISO indicator.

Cheers!

P.S. I'm from Barcelona

cybercare Regular Member • Posts: 386
Re: Huh?

http://www.pbase.com/jrodrigo/india_pobreza

Petteri Sulonen 05-Nov-2005 22:00
[snip]

The only thing wrong with this gallery is the commentary. "Great stuff, the 5D does well in B&W, amazing gallery, WOW!" All true, but aren't you at all ashamed of yourselves? Look at the pictures, folks. These are people, not interesting artifacts with light and shade.
[ snip]

bayguy Regular Member • Posts: 161
Re: Somewhat sympathetic, for a different reason...

Tony Victor wrote:

I just looked through all the India samples just now, and I have to
admit, I do get a slightly sick feeling seeing them.

You should. Otherwise you are not human.

Here I am, a serious amatuer, very happy I have purchased a $3300
camera, and I'm hit the face with the abject poverty illustrated in
that series. I feel guilty.

Yes, I understand this too.

Look of the title of the thread. Emphasis on "5D" and "best."
Perhaps he should have said "worst."

He was describing the technical performance of the camera, not the subject matter.

I guess PJ's risk falling into the same habit. "Hey, I got an
excellent pic of that guy setting himself on fire!"

I doubt this. A professional photojournalist does not have this kind of attitude. For example, do you think a PJ will go into a war zone risking his life just to obtain an excellent pic of someone being killed?

We all know why we're here, to learn and discuss photography, and,
in thread specifically, to see what the 5D is capable of. But
perhaps we should get in the habit of intorducing these threads in
a slightly more serious, reverant way.

Perhaps you're right.

Also, a link to a site that one could take action against poverty
and hunger might be a good idea.

Agreed.

Petteri Sulonen Forum Pro • Posts: 24,585
Yes, I know...

I wrote that. Did you read the paragraph below it too?

If not, here it is again:

"And to the photographer, you've done a remarkable job of portraying them. This is great photography in every way, and it's abundantly clear to me that you didn't shoot these to "show what your camera can do." Perhaps a bit of commentary might do no harm, since most of your viewers seem to be approaching this like a tech demo."

Now, what was your problem again?

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Hamming Regular Member • Posts: 240
NGOs

Also, a link to a site that one could take action against poverty
and hunger might be a good idea.

I apologize if this is not the right forum for this -- but since you ask -- the following are a list of good non-profit NGOs working in India, the first of which my wife is intimately familiar with, the others are equally good as well:

ASHA: http://www.ashanet.org
AID: http://www.aidindia.org
CRY: http://www.cry.org

bayguy Regular Member • Posts: 161
Re: Huh?

I can see why such commentary might bother you.
But still, you are making a huge assumption.
You know nothing about the commentor's feeling toward poverty.
You only know his feelings about the 5D.
Yet you are making a judgment regarding his morality.
This is a photography forum.
It is perfectly ok to comment only on the technical aspect of images.
You have no basis to make moral judgments here.

cybercare wrote:

http://www.pbase.com/jrodrigo/india_pobreza

Petteri Sulonen 05-Nov-2005 22:00
[snip]
The only thing wrong with this gallery is the commentary. "Great
stuff, the 5D does well in B&W, amazing gallery, WOW!" All true,
but aren't you at all ashamed of yourselves? Look at the
pictures, folks. These are people, not interesting artifacts with
light and shade.
[ snip]

bayguy Regular Member • Posts: 161
Excuse my ignorance

From what I read and hear, India's economy is booming. India is building the world's tallest building in New Delhi. India is purchasing all sorts of companies and property in the States. I understand that there are poor people in India and that they require help. But this is a job for the Indian government. India has a democratic government and a properous economy. I think foreign aid should go elsewhere such as Africa where governmets are incompetent and there is no sustainable economy.

Mike Griffin Regular Member • Posts: 344
I don't agree

The images stand on their own merrit without the viewer being hit over the head by high contrast and over sharpening. I think the images on this guy's site have more value.
http://www.pbase.com/vikasmal/varanasi_two

steve constable wrote:

The biting high contrast is fitting for these images to emphasize
the stark reality of the peoples situation. There are so many flat
lack lustre images from digital from many people who try to hold
onto every ounce of detail captured in the shadows. Shadows create
a sense of mystery.

Had these images presented the day the 5D was announced I bet some
bright spark on DP would have complained about the cameras lack of
tonal range!

It is refreshing to see images presented that do not look typically
digital. I accept there are softer subjects which will require a
different approach.

bondul New Member • Posts: 22
Re: 5D images from India - the best yet

Wow... How do you convert them to BW? I never got BW such that perfect !!!!

Ian S Senior Member • Posts: 2,257
Dissagree with all of you on the poverty issue

I am neither disgusted nor inspired by this gallery.

My objection to this gallery is simply that it does not accurately portray the subject. The use of B&W and reference to "poverty" creates a grim impression which (IMO) a deeper analysis of the place and even these images shows to be incorrect.

Many of the people, even in this gallery, and certainly the others, are not destitutes, they are people going about their business. For all we know some of them are middle class tourists from other parts of India. Varanasi in particular is a "tourist trap" for those people, and people bathing and on the Ghats are more likely to be from that background than destitute.

A loin cloth does not a beggar make.

Striking images do not journalism make (and to be fair the photographer never pretended otherwise)

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