new d200 spec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Started Oct 22, 2005 | Discussions
Joe Hoddinott Veteran Member • Posts: 3,792
I hope no more than 10MP

I'm glad to see that most rumors (and leaks) are saying 10.5MP. I want two D200 bodies to backup my D2x so I can get rid of my D2h. I shoot weddings, and there are times when I don't want the big 12MP files - but I want something a little more than 4MP of the D2h.

I'm also glad to hear of the 1/500 x-sync... not because I think it will overly benefit me, but I think it will finally get Ken Rockwell to stop obcessing over the D70!

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Dennis Meyler Contributing Member • Posts: 646
If true: 10.4MP = DOA

10.4 million effective pixels

Nikon, a day late and 2MP short.

buntcake Junior Member • Posts: 37
Re: I hope no more than 10MP

my source says that the special feature, or one of them anyway, might be integrated Wi-fi.... like they did with one of the coolpix models. I think it is plausible, but of course, all speculation

daytontp Veteran Member • Posts: 3,738
Can you prove that...

It would appear the 6mp is doing good, look at the D50, D70 and D70s. Also consider most Canon pros are using something less than 10mp and at $1700 the D200 will not be competing against the EOS 5D.

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downunderdude Forum Member • Posts: 79
What about if D2X price drops

We've been hearing rumours of a D2X price drop on here in recent weeks,if that happens it may only be a 1500k price difference,also given that the D200 might not actually sell as cheaply at first as everyone is predicting.

Joe Hoddinott Veteran Member • Posts: 3,792
10.4mp = DOA = BS

Dennis Meyler wrote:

10.4 million effective pixels

Nikon, a day late and 2MP short.

MP isn't everything. I'll take a D2x file over a 1DsII or Med Format file any day of the week for what I do.

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Norwen Senior Member • Posts: 2,648
What's the big deal?

You people talk like if we're all Ballerinas in here...

1.5 crop is good. If it's a 1.25 crop, so what? Most people use Zooms, anyways, so zoom in zoom out.

Am I really that Cool or are some people in need of some kind of help? I mean what's the biggie?

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Norwen Senior Member • Posts: 2,648
Yawn... 12-24 please...

the soft corners and light fall off that still leave me with a larger work space than the DX sensor crop?

Man, c'mon! Larger space? Ever heard of the 12-24? Do you need to go even wider??? What space? 1mm fisheye?

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photoship Contributing Member • Posts: 517
Re: MultiCam 2000 + AF Assist White light lamp??

Maybe the Multi CAM2000 II is an abridged CAM2000 (meaning less full-featured) so that there is a reason for customers to still purchase the D2X for alot more $$$ after the intro of the D200.

JC wrote:

Well, from the post it seems that Multi CAM2000 II is LESS capable
than the Multi CAM2000 is the D2x -- 3 cross sensors versus 9. So
although Nikon could have put the same AF in the D200, they might
be saving $$$ this way.

Then again, maybe they've gotten rid of the focusing problems some
have had with the D2x; and that earns the "II" even with fewer
cross sensors.

JC

photoship Contributing Member • Posts: 517
Re: Who speaks about FF ?????....

Please, not another color-blind LBCAST ...

Kurt wrote:

... but maybe a sensor from Fuji or a new LBCAST (or both)...

photoship Contributing Member • Posts: 517
Re: new d200 spec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No mention of i-TTL Balanced Fill-Flash compatible with Nikon Speedlights SB-800/600?

EYANDA wrote:

US: $ 1750
UK: £ 1500

Body material Magnesium alloy
Sensor • 23.7 x 15.7 mm CCD sensor
DX format
RGB Color Filter Array
Built-in fixed low-pass filter
10.4 million effective pixels
3:2 aspect ratio

High speed cropped - NO

File formats
NEF (12-bit RAW)
NEF + JPEG
JPEG (EXIF 2.2)

Color space
sRGB (2 modes)
Adobe RGB (2 modes)
sYCC

Lens mount
Nikon F mount
Full size image: 1.5x field of view crop
High speed cropped: NO

Auto Focus
11 area TTL
Multi-CAM2000-ll ( 3 cross sensor)
AF working range: -1 to 19 EV (ISO 100, normal temperature)

AF Assist White light lamp

Sensitivity
Auto
ISO 100 - 1600

Metering modes
3D Color Matrix
Center-Weighted
Spot

Metering range
3D Color Matrix Metering: EV 0 to 20
Center-Weighted Metering: EV 0 to 20
Spot Metering: EV 2 to 20
[at normal temperature (20°C/68°F), ISO 100 equivalent, f/1.4 lens]
Meter Coupling CPU and AI (Automatic maximum aperture indexing)
AE Lock Locked using AE-L/AF-L button

Shutter

Combined mechanical and CCD electronic shutter
30 to 1/16000 sec
Steps of 1/3 or 1/2 EV
Flash X-Sync: up to 1/500 sec
Bulb

Metering TTL full-aperture exposure metering system

3D color matrix metering II
1005 segment RGB sensor
Center-weighted: Weight of 75%(8mm circle) given to 6, 8, 10, or
13-mm circle in center of frame, or weighting based on average of
entire frame
Spot: Meters 3.5 mm circle (about 2.5% of frame) centered on active
focus area

LCD monitor
2.5 " TFT LCD
Tempered glass coating
235,000 pixels
Backlight / brightness adjustment

Shooting modes
Single
Continuous Full image - 5 fps

shooter2 Senior Member • Posts: 1,331
10.4 is a good compromise

I don't understand this DOA junk if it is "only" 10 mp. I think many wedding, event and portrait , not to mention advanced hobbyists that are not hung up on "my p*cker is bigger than yours" syndrome will welcome and embrace this resolution. Who cares how many mp the latest greatest Canons will have? Not me. More dynamic range and I might be interested. Will they have accurate focus and ittl? Will they be intuitive to use? Or will they just be more mp. And how many mp do you really need. How big do you regularly print? 16x20s should be no problem, as long as the file is properly exposed and in focus. I have done 16x20s from my 6mp cameras and they look pretty good. There is always a smart a** at bridal shows spouting off about how digital is not as good as film. I then ask them to tell me out of the dozen or so 16 x20s on display, which were done with the Mamiya 6x7 or 645 and which were done with the 6mp Nikons. Their guesses are usually way off. And I have enough CDs/DVDs and external hard drives already. My .02.
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TimK5 Senior Member • Posts: 1,065
D200 will fail to compete with 20Dupdate

daytontp wrote:

at $1700 the D200 will not be competing against the EOS 5D.

Right! At $1700 it will be competing against the 20D. But it should compete against the 20D-update. Do you really think that the 20D-update is going to have only 2 MP more?

I know FF isn't everything (at the current stage I would prefer DX for quality), but what if Canon uses an updated 11 MP sensor from the 1Ds. Or more likely the 5D sensor in a cheap Rebel body. FF is a huge psychological thing. The D200 would be dead in the water.

Thomas Karlmann
Thomas Karlmann Senior Member • Posts: 2,761
10MP?

I think all the talk about how this D200 fits in with the D100 and the D2x and the F100 and the D2Hs is just keyboard diarrhea. Everyone knows that the D200 had better compete favorably with the Canon 5D or it is over!

I don't mean to offend anyone here -- many of us -- myself included -- have a LOT of $$$ invested in Nikon. Have any of you DL'd any 5D images? They are gorgeous.

I was thinking that a 5D would be a nice addition to my kit to use at the backdrop and for times when I need higher rez. Obviously I want to see what Nikon anf Fuji have to offer, but if they are not up to what that Canon 5D can do, I may keep my existing Nikon and Fuji stuff but get a 5D and a portrait lens for my high rez needs.

I truly hope that Nikon can make a D200 with > 12Mp and with 9 cross sensors and the very BEST AF they can devise. Today one has other attractive options...

I know my competition will be looking at all the same hardware I am. If Nikon cannot surpass the Canon 5D, then shall I stay behind just to keep with Nikon? I think not.
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Thomas Karlmann
Thomas Karlmann Senior Member • Posts: 2,761
1/500 sec was about the only good thing I read!

I really need that 1/500 sec flash sync. I don't care if the sensor is made of CCD, CMOS, or recycled WWII battleship scrap iron as long as I get my 1/500sec flash sync AT ISO 100.
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Pradipta Dutta
Pradipta Dutta Veteran Member • Posts: 9,782
Who is stopping you from buying 5D?

Thomas Karlmann wrote:

I was thinking that a 5D would be a nice addition to my kit to use
at the backdrop and for times when I need higher rez. Obviously I
want to see what Nikon anf Fuji have to offer, but if they are not
up to what that Canon 5D can do, I may keep my existing Nikon and
Fuji stuff but get a 5D and a portrait lens for my high rez needs.

You really don't have to cry in front of us. Just get the 5D. No one is stopping you to go get it!

I truly hope that Nikon can make a D200 with > 12Mp and with 9 cross
sensors and the very BEST AF they can devise. Today one has other
attractive options...

So, you want a D2X at the price of D100? Duh!

I know my competition will be looking at all the same hardware I
am. If Nikon cannot surpass the Canon 5D, then shall I stay behind
just to keep with Nikon? I think not.

Unfortunately you will keep oscillating between brands if you don't get down to rational fact-based thinking.

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Thomas Karlmann
Thomas Karlmann Senior Member • Posts: 2,761
Unfortunately, my clients do...

Sure it may not make any difference to us, but the most frequently-asked question I get when doing a Wedding is "How many MP is that camera?"

It's just a fact. That along with a gorgeous file I DL'd taken with a 5D...

People don't know what else to ask because they are uninformed. I cannot take the time to explain anything to them, I'm way too busy with the Wedding.

The 5D is there.

shooter2 wrote:

I don't understand this DOA junk if it is "only" 10 mp. I think
many wedding, event and portrait , not to mention advanced
hobbyists that are not hung up on "my p*cker is bigger than yours"
syndrome will welcome and embrace this resolution. Who cares how
many mp the latest greatest Canons will have? Not me. More dynamic
range and I might be interested. Will they have accurate focus and
ittl? Will they be intuitive to use? Or will they just be more mp.
And how many mp do you really need. How big do you regularly print?
16x20s should be no problem, as long as the file is properly
exposed and in focus. I have done 16x20s from my 6mp cameras and
they look pretty good. There is always a smart a** at bridal shows
spouting off about how digital is not as good as film. I then ask
them to tell me out of the dozen or so 16 x20s on display, which
were done with the Mamiya 6x7 or 645 and which were done with the
6mp Nikons. Their guesses are usually way off. And I have enough
CDs/DVDs and external hard drives already. My .02.
Shooter2

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Henry Goh Senior Member • Posts: 2,018
A 12.4MP Nikon already exists in the form of D2X. U Can't afford it?

I guess not.

Henry Goh Senior Member • Posts: 2,018
It will be a very sweet camera

just like brendan said. Just be patient.

bimmerman Senior Member • Posts: 2,406
Disgusting!!!

But if what you've said was true about the surprise feature my guess would be a live LCD view like those on non-SLR digicams. Correct?

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