What the....black ink in my yellow cartridge

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ldkronos Contributing Member • Posts: 935
What the....black ink in my yellow cartridge

About a month ago, my yellow cartridge on my Canon i950 ran out, so I pulled a spare out of the drawer, unwrapped it and put it in. No problem...it kept on printing fine. Then, the last thing I printed I later noticed it had black streaks in the yellow areas. I thought maybe I just needed to clean the print heads, but forgot about it and never did anything. Now I go to print for the first time in several weeks and I noticed all my colors are printing really strangely

So, I run a nozzle check in the printer properties dialog, and what do you know...the yellow sections come out black. So I pull out the yellow cartridge and sure enough, it's got what appears to be black ink in it. Except it's not really solid black...inside the cartridge, it looks like it has a yellow tint to it.

I bought these cartridges off of ebay from a seemingly reputable dealer (several thousand transactions over the course of a year, almost 100% positive feedback). They were listed as genuine canon cartridges. They came in what appeared to be genuine packaging...the ordinary canon box, then the air tight plastic bag, then the peel away plastic that wraps around the cartridge, then that little orange seal you have to twist off.

The only odd thing is, while the cartridges do say "Canon" on them, they look different than my previous ones. I just assumed that was a marketing change. In the below photo, the Photo Cyan is still an older cartridge...the other 5 have been replaced.

So what do you think about this. Was there just a mixup at the Canon factory? Or should I be worried about whether I got counterfeit ink? The counterfeit idea popped into my mind once this happend, and I took a quick look around and found this disturbing article:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,110835,00.asp

Now I'm paranoid. What did I buy? And how do I fix it? If I put a fresh yellow in there, is the black going to contaminate it? Will I just be able to print a full sheet of solid yellow so as to clear the lines of black ink (while not wasting any other colors)?

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moT Regular Member • Posts: 287
Very Odd

I too, have bought ink off of E-Bay...so far so good.

I can tell you that the 5 cartridges you show as replaced are what I received in both my i9900 and i960 (looks wise). To me, your remaining cartridge looks odd.

I'd chalk it up to a Canon error...print out a few pics with lots of yellow and then see what you get.

I'd think ink-is-ink and will continue to flow whether yellow or black...and the black would not contaminate the yellow.

I have compared my "local store bought" to my E-Bay inks and while some writing on the celephan (spelling) is different, everythink else is the same. To me, I'd think that a counterfit operation would spend serious money to get ALL the details right and wouldn't bother...so I feel comfortable.

Then again...what the heck do I know about counterfit operations?!?!?

chibimike Senior Member • Posts: 1,090
some possibilities

The cartridge isn't the problem, the black ink has seeped into your yellow cartridge.

Some possible reasons:

1) some black ink dripped out down the side of the yellow ink and contaminated it.

2) Your printhead has a crack or internal problem allowing the black ink to seep into the yellow

3) Your purge tank sponge is saturated and/or making contact with the printhead, causing your head to wick ink out out the purge tank into your cartridge.

Good luck, I would ask canon.

mike

OP ldkronos Contributing Member • Posts: 935
Re: some possibilities

Thanks for your opinion on the matter. Now I'm even more worried. I'd rather it have been a counterfeit cartridge. Now I have to consider there is something wrong with my printer.

1) some black ink dripped out down the side of the yellow ink and
contaminated it.

I pulled out the cartridges and didn't see anything...no stray ink or anything, and the way the cartridge holder is designed, I'm not sure how that could happen without there being significant leakage. I suppose anything's possible, but this doesn't seem likely

2) Your printhead has a crack or internal problem allowing the
black ink to seep into the yellow

Ouch. Please don't let that be the problem

3) Your purge tank sponge is saturated and/or making contact with
the printhead, causing your head to wick ink out out the purge tank
into your cartridge.

Any idea how I would check for and fix that? I tried searching these forums to see if anyone else has had this happen, but the search seems to be down.

Good luck, I would ask canon.

Thanks. Unfortunately, I won't have the time to call them up for at least a couple of days here. Maybe tonight I'll try printing a full page of yellow just to see if the ink is fully contaminated (visually, it kind of looks like that) or maybe its just some black in the cartridge sponge.

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batski Contributing Member • Posts: 728
Canon's response

Makes interesting reading.

http://www.canon-europe.com/About_Us/About_Canon/045_Counterfeit/#171574

I have had two cartridges that look like your different one in amongst my last couple of orders of 14 cartridges. Both worked OK but you now have me wondering whether they were the real deal or not.

OP ldkronos Contributing Member • Posts: 935
Thanks...now I have some leads

Well I guess I overreacted when I saw the black ink in there and thought about the whole counterfeit thing. It looks like I was way off base, and you were right with the ink leakage/contamination thing. With your suggestion, I started looking around in a new direction and found this:

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=47

This guy had the same thing happen...black ink got into his yellow cart. and turned it muddy brown. Seems it was the sponge. I'll have to give his suggestion a try later today and see how it works for me.

So thanks once again for leading me in the right direction.

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OP ldkronos Contributing Member • Posts: 935
Re: Canon's response

batski wrote:

Makes interesting reading.

http://www.canon-europe.com/About_Us/About_Canon/045_Counterfeit/#171574

Yes, I saw that also before I made my original post.

I have had two cartridges that look like your different one in
amongst my last couple of orders of 14 cartridges. Both worked OK
but you now have me wondering whether they were the real deal or
not.

Nope, don't worry. As moT posted above, those are what his original cartridges looked like when he bought the printer, so that is definitely authentic. It seems I overreacted. My initial thought was that there was black ink in the cartridge when I bought it, and so I thought "what's more likely: canon screwed up or its a poor quality counterfeit". I guess I didn't want to believe canon made that sort of a screw up (and it looks like they didn't) so I jumped to a conclusion. Sorry to have gotten you worried

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Renard DellaFave
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Re: What the....black ink in my yellow cartridge

I have seen a number of yellow BCI-3 come through the shop looking like this and had assumed someone put them in the black slot before realizing their mistake. If not, I guess black ink could have leaked across either where the cartridges seat, or at the printhead.

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OP ldkronos Contributing Member • Posts: 935
Re: What the....black ink in my yellow cartridge

Renard DellaFave wrote:

I have seen a number of yellow BCI-3 come through the shop looking
like this and had assumed someone put them in the black slot before
realizing their mistake.

I guess next time you see it, you'll know what happened. I can guarantee that I certainly did not mix up my cartridges. This is my 4 set of cartridges, and other than the initial install when I bought it a few years ago, I've never had more than 1 cartridge removed at a time, so it's kind of hard to mix them up

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chibimike Senior Member • Posts: 1,090
You're welcome

I remember reading about it here.
You probably would have found it if searching worked.

mike

Ace d New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Thanks...now I have some leads

Hi

Please advice me how this was fixed.

I am currently having same issue on canon MX924

My yellow ink is turning black.

And I have nowhere to go and it's really frustrating.

Thank you.

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