FZ 20 / What SD Card?

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trusgar Forum Member • Posts: 53
FZ 20 / What SD Card?

What would you recommend as an SD Card for the FZ20. Is any brand faster than the other as far as write and download speed?

Thanks,
Gary

lovelife Senior Member • Posts: 2,683
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card? any 10mbs card(m)

trusgar wrote:

What would you recommend as an SD Card for the FZ20. Is any brand
faster than the other as far as write and download speed?

Thanks,
Gary

The FZ writes at 2mbs, the slower cards should have been good but they lied about speed.
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I like Lexar 32x...

they are fast and I've never had a corrupted card or lost file.
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Michael Ma Contributing Member • Posts: 539
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card?

get the Kingmax 1GB card from newegg.

trusgar wrote:

What would you recommend as an SD Card for the FZ20. Is any brand
faster than the other as far as write and download speed?

Thanks,
Gary

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Bill kb7vkl Regular Member • Posts: 164
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card?

trusgar wrote:

What would you recommend as an SD Card for the FZ20. Is any brand
faster than the other as far as write and download speed?

I use the KingMax 1GB 60X card and like it.

Newegg has a rebate going on them right now, $65 +$4.81 S&H after the rebate. I hate rebates but this is too good of a deal to pass up.
Here's the link:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-155-266&depa=1

Bill

optix Forum Member • Posts: 54
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card? any 10mbs card(m)

lovelife wrote:

The FZ writes at 2mbs, the slower cards should have been good but
they lied about speed.
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I'm pretty sure its faster than 2 MB/s. My tests using the Kingmax 60x 1GB indicates its writing at closer to 4 MB/s using the high speed burst mode, and timing the time it needs to flush the buffers. I would not get a card slower than 32x for the FZ-20.

Ken Nichols Junior Member • Posts: 45
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card?

I have no problem with the Sandisk 512Mb Ultra and rather than buy one 1Gb card, I would buy 2x 512Mb cards........it is all about not putting all your eggs in on basket. Just my humble opinion. Cheers Ken

scloh1 New Member • Posts: 15
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card?

I mainly keep my card in the camera and use the USB cable, so a 1GB UltraII would suit me. The only problem is the USB is fairly slow.

As for the analogy, it depends how careful you are with your cards. I don't use a carry bag so i'd be putting a card in my pocket.

Sandisk come with a plastic case for the card which makes it harder to lose, but a card inside a camera is even harder to lose. Your only problem then is if the card become damaged/corrupted. A card inside a camera is pretty safe except for water. Also, if one of your cards dies on you, then the images on that card are lost. Having another empty card just means you can take more shots immediately. You still can't get those lost shots back.

If the card in the camera becomes corrupt and it's the first card, then all your eggs were in one basket. If the card outside the camera gets corrupted, then it might have been better off inside the camera.
I think losing even half your eggs is pretty damn tragic.

With two cards, the best case scenario is the blank card you just put in is corrupted, you haven't lost anthing. But now you have no room for a shot.

Worst case scenario, you have a full card that gets lost/damaged/corrupted and you've lost half your images.

With a single card, the worst thing would be you lose all 1GB of images. This is also the best case. But because you aren't as prone to losing/damaging a card, the chances of this happening is simply the failure rate of the card(and perhaps the chance of getting the camera/card compartment wet). With two cards, the chance of disaster is (IMHO) greater as you can also lose the card (This would be the most likely case) or it can be damaged while outside the camera.

Personally, I would get the largest card I could afford, then I wouldn't have to worry about carrying an extra card which may get lost/damaged while outside the camera. When a larger capacity card comes around, trade up and sell the old card second hand, or use it as an emergency card.

Also, the Sandisk card I got comes with a lifetime gaurantee and Ted's said that if it EVER fails I can get is replaced no questions askes(other than reciept, of course).

Just my opinion.

And get a card reader. I don't and USB cable is SLOOOOW

Wow, that was a lot of writing.

Ken Nichols wrote:

I have no problem with the Sandisk 512Mb Ultra and rather than buy
one 1Gb card, I would buy 2x 512Mb cards........it is all about not
putting all your eggs in on basket. Just my humble opinion. Cheers
Ken

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Tony 2 Senior Member • Posts: 1,091
Re: What's your source of info?

lovelife wrote:

trusgar wrote:

What would you recommend as an SD Card for the FZ20. Is any brand
faster than the other as far as write and download speed?

Thanks,
Gary

The FZ writes at 2mbs, the slower cards should have been good but
they lied about speed.
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Lovelife, you've cited 2MB/s before. How do you know this spec?
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manapua New Member • Posts: 12
get an ATP card

Check out this review and you'll understand why ATP is the one basket you might be willing to put all your eggs in (personally, I subscribe to the 2 card strategy).
http://www.auphanonline.com/articles/view.php?article_id=1498

So while some manufacturers (ATP) build their products beyond industry standards, others (Kingmax comes to mind) build their products below standards (thin casing and no write-protect mechanism). Only you can decide whether the ATPs are worth the few extra dollars.

Got my 60X at Zipzoomfly.com others have gotten theirs at Onecall.

HTH

scloh1 wrote:
I mainly keep my card in the camera and use the USB cable, so a 1GB
UltraII would suit me. The only problem is the USB is fairly slow.
As for the analogy, it depends how careful you are with your cards.
I don't use a carry bag so i'd be putting a card in my pocket.
Sandisk come with a plastic case for the card which makes it harder
to lose, but a card inside a camera is even harder to lose. Your
only problem then is if the card become damaged/corrupted. A card
inside a camera is pretty safe except for water. Also, if one of
your cards dies on you, then the images on that card are lost.
Having another empty card just means you can take more shots
immediately. You still can't get those lost shots back.
If the card in the camera becomes corrupt and it's the first card,
then all your eggs were in one basket. If the card outside the
camera gets corrupted, then it might have been better off inside
the camera.
I think losing even half your eggs is pretty damn tragic.

With two cards, the best case scenario is the blank card you just
put in is corrupted, you haven't lost anthing. But now you have no
room for a shot.
Worst case scenario, you have a full card that gets
lost/damaged/corrupted and you've lost half your images.

With a single card, the worst thing would be you lose all 1GB of
images. This is also the best case. But because you aren't as prone
to losing/damaging a card, the chances of this happening is simply
the failure rate of the card(and perhaps the chance of getting the
camera/card compartment wet). With two cards, the chance of
disaster is (IMHO) greater as you can also lose the card (This
would be the most likely case) or it can be damaged while outside
the camera.

Personally, I would get the largest card I could afford, then I
wouldn't have to worry about carrying an extra card which may get
lost/damaged while outside the camera. When a larger capacity card
comes around, trade up and sell the old card second hand, or use it
as an emergency card.

Also, the Sandisk card I got comes with a lifetime gaurantee and
Ted's said that if it EVER fails I can get is replaced no questions
askes(other than reciept, of course).

Just my opinion.

And get a card reader. I don't and USB cable is SLOOOOW

Wow, that was a lot of writing.

Ken Nichols wrote:

I have no problem with the Sandisk 512Mb Ultra and rather than buy
one 1Gb card, I would buy 2x 512Mb cards........it is all about not
putting all your eggs in on basket. Just my humble opinion. Cheers
Ken

Bill kb7vkl Regular Member • Posts: 164
Re: get an ATP card

manapua wrote:

So while some manufacturers (ATP) build their products beyond
industry standards, others (Kingmax comes to mind) build their
products below standards (thin casing and no write-protect
mechanism).

Do you have a URL to a site that tested the KingMax and found it to be sub-standard? Do you have any cite for the information you offer here about the Kingmax?

Thanks,
Bill

manapua New Member • Posts: 12
visit the Kingmax and SDA sites...

While "below standards" was a bit overstated, they definitely build their SD cards to different standard than most other manufacturers. A small sampling of other manufacturers that make their card dimensions easily accessible (Dane-Elec, Kingston, Lexar, ATP) show that they build their SD cases to a thickness of 2.1mm (the SD standard), while Kingmax builds theirs to 1.4mm (the mini-SD standard for thickness) as stated in their FAQ below:
http://www.kingmaxdigi.com/support/faq.htm
SD Association standards:
http://www.sdcard.org/minisd/index.html

anecdotal citations regarding thickness as well as the lack of write protect mechanism:
http://www.epinions.com/content_155458637444
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=10212733
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1023&message=11214246
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=11440866
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=11385820
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4499
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-59452.html
http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/11011

It's clear that Kingmax builds their SD cards to hybrid dimensions and chooses not to include a write-protect mechanism. Again, only you can decide if their cheaper price outweighs their deviation from industry standards. Many here seem to like them. For me, I'll stick with ATP.

Bill kb7vkl wrote:

manapua wrote:

So while some manufacturers (ATP) build their products beyond
industry standards, others (Kingmax comes to mind) build their
products below standards (thin casing and no write-protect
mechanism).

Do you have a URL to a site that tested the KingMax and found it to

be sub-standard? Do you have any cite for the information you offer
here about the Kingmax?

Thanks,
Bill

LaRee Forum Pro • Posts: 19,944
Re: visit the Kingmax and SDA sites...

The Kingmax is a bit thiner than the SanDisk cards I have but I don't think that automatically translates into inferior. I also have a Kingmax 1G 60x card in my hand right now that has a write protect tab on it. My platinum 60x 1G Kingmax doesn't have a write protect on it though. I've never used the write protect tab anyway, I have another method to keep my used and unused cards separate. That's the only reason I can think of using the protect tab is to ensure against accidental eraser. All I know is that I love my Kingmax cards. I've had nothing but outstanding performance and I own 3, (2)1G and 1(512).

manapua wrote:
While "below standards" was a bit overstated, they definitely build
their SD cards to different standard than most other manufacturers.
A small sampling of other manufacturers that make their card
dimensions easily accessible (Dane-Elec, Kingston, Lexar, ATP) show
that they build their SD cases to a thickness of 2.1mm (the SD
standard), while Kingmax builds theirs to 1.4mm (the mini-SD
standard for thickness) as stated in their FAQ below:
http://www.kingmaxdigi.com/support/faq.htm
SD Association standards:
http://www.sdcard.org/minisd/index.html

anecdotal citations regarding thickness as well as the lack of
write protect mechanism:
http://www.epinions.com/content_155458637444
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=10212733
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1023&message=11214246
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=11440866
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=11385820
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4499
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-59452.html
http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/11011

It's clear that Kingmax builds their SD cards to hybrid dimensions
and chooses not to include a write-protect mechanism. Again, only
you can decide if their cheaper price outweighs their deviation
from industry standards. Many here seem to like them. For me,
I'll stick with ATP.

Bill kb7vkl wrote:

manapua wrote:

So while some manufacturers (ATP) build their products beyond
industry standards, others (Kingmax comes to mind) build their
products below standards (thin casing and no write-protect
mechanism).

Do you have a URL to a site that tested the KingMax and found it to

be sub-standard? Do you have any cite for the information you offer
here about the Kingmax?

Thanks,
Bill

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Sakedad Contributing Member • Posts: 674
Kingston, Viking, Sandisk...???

Ecost.com has the Kingston 512 for $30.99usd after rebate...but they also have Viking, Sandisk and others at $40-49.00 I just ordered my FZ20 and am confused as to which 512 I should buy. I've read the above posts and I'm STILL confused as to which I should get. Thanks for your help.

iowaiter Regular Member • Posts: 163
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card? any 10mbs card(m)

dpreview sites 5.7 in the review....
probably only noticable when flushing the buffer and when shooting tiff though.

Henrik

broken1 New Member • Posts: 16
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card? any 10mbs card(m)

I have a 1gb kingmax and a 1 gb ridata pro which i got both off of new egg. They are both excellent cards. Its good to have 2 cards just in case one goes bad on you. As for speed it depends on the type of shooting your going to do. Sports,bursts, fast shooting id get a high speend card. other wise anything over 32x is fine in my opinion.

Tawfique Hasan Regular Member • Posts: 122
Re: FZ 20 / What SD Card?

Michael Ma wrote:

get the Kingmax 1GB card from newegg.
this card and its simply amazing. can't beat the price and the
performance.

how do u know its 60X???
are you talking about this one??
http://gsmstore.co.uk/gsmproduct/811?PHPSESSID=8672e56659cae9b11f5e77cec38996e9
hasan

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