Cold, hard reality sets in...

Wayne, not all of us live in the "Good old US of A, and not all of us have £1000 to throw away on a bad camera. I am buying a camera to replace my Pentax EI2000 which turned out to be a poor choice so I won't be hot footing it to their site tonight. I need a camera with the ability to take good pictures and will be rugged in design, enough so to last me a couple of years of general and outdoor use, a camera that will not stand the rigors of hiking in rough terrain is no good to me.

Therefore I am considering the D7 and the E10, what worries be about the D7 is the problems highlighted in Phil's review about flimsy appearance.

Wayne wrote:

No this camera won't cure your bad breath, get you a date on Friday
night, or stop your balding spot from expanding (or your waistline
for that matter). It's a camera people - get over it! It still has
the best combination of features and performance for the price
(actually still the only game in town). It even has features that
weren't announced that make it more attractive - increased color
space for one.
O.K. it eats batteries - ONLY 100 shots per set. Guess you people
have never used sheet or roll film! There may be a good reason why
it takes so few shots - to save your poor relatives and any other
audience from having to see more of your photos. When was the last
time any of you took 100 keepers at a sitting (don't answer because
this is directly related to your taste, or lack thereof, and I
don't want to know). You CAN change the batteries you know! I have
4 more sets on the way. If it gets bad I'll just build my D-cell
pack - 38 watts of POWER!
It gets hot! Great! For those of you who are unaware of physics
when heat is generated it is either stored or transferred to
surrounding materials. The fact that the body gets warm indicates
that the metal body is conducting the heat AWAY from the interior
of the camera. Wear an oven mitt if it bothers you.
The shutter button locks up! Great! When I take a photo I want it
to be taken when I decide (plus normal delay which I can compensate
for), not two, three, or four seconds later when the camera is
ready. If I miss a shot I'm going to miss it either way - this way
I'm aware of it. Ever hear of "The decisive moment"?
The camera is heavy on the left! HUH? The grip is on the right, the
body is on the left, what do you expect? Physics again guys. How
can you even tell WITH A ONE POUND CAMERA? Try to hold a Mamiya
RB67 with a prism and a 250mm lens attached to an L-grip and you'll
get the idea (maybe not). Cameras were made to be held with two
hands.
Tripod socket offset! Once again refer to the weight distribution.
If the camera is heavier on the left I would expect the tripod
socket to be on the left. I won't know the balace point until I get
it, but it's not a big point with a 1 pound electronic camera.
Panoramas more difficult to perform! Got news for you - unless you
know the nodal point of your lens, and have a mounting plate that
is adjusted properly, you're not doing it right anyway! BTW my
Gitzo 1227CF arrived from Robert White's today (good old UPS),
YAAY! I needed an excuse to get a smaller model.
Good news for me, the Microdrive doesn't have an appreciable effect
on battery consumption, and actually writes large files faster! My
1GB also arrived today, YAAY (good old FEDEX)!
As for the resolution, it's as good as any other consumercam out
there with a 7:1 zoom - LOL! And as for the difference in
resolution between one site and another - EVER HEARD OF SAMPLE
VARIATION? Who knows how well they were focused to begin with (no
shot intended)? There are mechanical tolerances throughout the
camera, could be any number of reasons. If it had tested to 1600 on
this site would you have bought it? It's not at all unusual for
individual lenses to vary by 30% when talking resolution numbers.
Still, considering that 90% of you were never really considering
buying the camera in the first place, there haven't been that many
dumb posts yet (guess we'll have to wait for the Americans to get
home from work). I'm American, and living in the good old US of A.
Before visiting this forum I had thought that Americans had
cornered the market on whining and bitching, I was wrong. They do
still lead the pack though. Any of you ladies (homeboys) out there
who are going to cancel your orders now, if you have a preorder in
at Eppersons please do it quickly - I want to make sure that I'm
one of the ones who gets his camera from the first shipment.
Do any of you actually take photographs??? I'll be out taking them
while the majority of you are still here (or somewhere else)
whining. Hey, I heard that Pentax is about to release their new
camera! Why don't you all stampede over there and set-up shop?
ROFLMAO!

Bit miffed about it not being able to cure my bad breath though.

Bob Jones wrote:
Wayne, not all of us live in the "Good old US of A, and not all of
us have £1000 to throw away on a bad camera. I am buying a camera
to replace my Pentax EI2000 which turned out to be a poor choice so
I won't be hot footing it to their site tonight. I need a camera
with the ability to take good pictures and will be rugged in
design, enough so to last me a couple of years of general and
outdoor use, a camera that will not stand the rigors of hiking in
rough terrain is no good to me.
Therefore I am considering the D7 and the E10, what worries be
about the D7 is the problems highlighted in Phil's review about
flimsy appearance.

Wayne wrote:

No this camera won't cure your bad breath, get you a date on Friday
night, or stop your balding spot from expanding (or your waistline
for that matter). It's a camera people - get over it! It still has
the best combination of features and performance for the price
(actually still the only game in town). It even has features that
weren't announced that make it more attractive - increased color
space for one.
O.K. it eats batteries - ONLY 100 shots per set. Guess you people
have never used sheet or roll film! There may be a good reason why
it takes so few shots - to save your poor relatives and any other
audience from having to see more of your photos. When was the last
time any of you took 100 keepers at a sitting (don't answer because
this is directly related to your taste, or lack thereof, and I
don't want to know). You CAN change the batteries you know! I have
4 more sets on the way. If it gets bad I'll just build my D-cell
pack - 38 watts of POWER!
It gets hot! Great! For those of you who are unaware of physics
when heat is generated it is either stored or transferred to
surrounding materials. The fact that the body gets warm indicates
that the metal body is conducting the heat AWAY from the interior
of the camera. Wear an oven mitt if it bothers you.
The shutter button locks up! Great! When I take a photo I want it
to be taken when I decide (plus normal delay which I can compensate
for), not two, three, or four seconds later when the camera is
ready. If I miss a shot I'm going to miss it either way - this way
I'm aware of it. Ever hear of "The decisive moment"?
The camera is heavy on the left! HUH? The grip is on the right, the
body is on the left, what do you expect? Physics again guys. How
can you even tell WITH A ONE POUND CAMERA? Try to hold a Mamiya
RB67 with a prism and a 250mm lens attached to an L-grip and you'll
get the idea (maybe not). Cameras were made to be held with two
hands.
Tripod socket offset! Once again refer to the weight distribution.
If the camera is heavier on the left I would expect the tripod
socket to be on the left. I won't know the balace point until I get
it, but it's not a big point with a 1 pound electronic camera.
Panoramas more difficult to perform! Got news for you - unless you
know the nodal point of your lens, and have a mounting plate that
is adjusted properly, you're not doing it right anyway! BTW my
Gitzo 1227CF arrived from Robert White's today (good old UPS),
YAAY! I needed an excuse to get a smaller model.
Good news for me, the Microdrive doesn't have an appreciable effect
on battery consumption, and actually writes large files faster! My
1GB also arrived today, YAAY (good old FEDEX)!
As for the resolution, it's as good as any other consumercam out
there with a 7:1 zoom - LOL! And as for the difference in
resolution between one site and another - EVER HEARD OF SAMPLE
VARIATION? Who knows how well they were focused to begin with (no
shot intended)? There are mechanical tolerances throughout the
camera, could be any number of reasons. If it had tested to 1600 on
this site would you have bought it? It's not at all unusual for
individual lenses to vary by 30% when talking resolution numbers.
Still, considering that 90% of you were never really considering
buying the camera in the first place, there haven't been that many
dumb posts yet (guess we'll have to wait for the Americans to get
home from work). I'm American, and living in the good old US of A.
Before visiting this forum I had thought that Americans had
cornered the market on whining and bitching, I was wrong. They do
still lead the pack though. Any of you ladies (homeboys) out there
who are going to cancel your orders now, if you have a preorder in
at Eppersons please do it quickly - I want to make sure that I'm
one of the ones who gets his camera from the first shipment.
Do any of you actually take photographs??? I'll be out taking them
while the majority of you are still here (or somewhere else)
whining. Hey, I heard that Pentax is about to release their new
camera! Why don't you all stampede over there and set-up shop?
ROFLMAO!

I agree with Wayne. There may be a few "issues" with the D7, but it still is the camera for me. I am in no way a photographer, wouldn't even call myself an amateur, but people tell me my photopgraphs are good. I have been watching this forum and information on the D7 since Phil's first review back in May...I still think it is a great camera. For all of you who are complaining about the build and feel of the camera, why not try to wait for it to hit the stores and then go and feel for yourselves....everyones opinion on something is different. Here in the US there are quit a few stores that have the models out for you to play with. As for buying the camera online: i will just make sure the place I get it from has a nice return policy just in case (doubt I will use it).

I assume that most of you are "professional" photographers....and let me just say that most of you have a way of pushing away the amatuer photographer with "horror" stories about the D7. I thought Phil's new review was very favorable...I'm still buying the camera.

Kam

Wayne wrote:

No this camera won't cure your bad breath, get you a date on Friday
night, or stop your balding spot from expanding (or your waistline
for that matter). It's a camera people - get over it! It still has
the best combination of features and performance for the price
(actually still the only game in town). It even has features that
weren't announced that make it more attractive - increased color
space for one.
O.K. it eats batteries - ONLY 100 shots per set. Guess you people
have never used sheet or roll film! There may be a good reason why
it takes so few shots - to save your poor relatives and any other
audience from having to see more of your photos. When was the last
time any of you took 100 keepers at a sitting (don't answer because
this is directly related to your taste, or lack thereof, and I
don't want to know). You CAN change the batteries you know! I have
4 more sets on the way. If it gets bad I'll just build my D-cell
pack - 38 watts of POWER!
It gets hot! Great! For those of you who are unaware of physics
when heat is generated it is either stored or transferred to
surrounding materials. The fact that the body gets warm indicates
that the metal body is conducting the heat AWAY from the interior
of the camera. Wear an oven mitt if it bothers you.
The shutter button locks up! Great! When I take a photo I want it
to be taken when I decide (plus normal delay which I can compensate
for), not two, three, or four seconds later when the camera is
ready. If I miss a shot I'm going to miss it either way - this way
I'm aware of it. Ever hear of "The decisive moment"?
The camera is heavy on the left! HUH? The grip is on the right, the
body is on the left, what do you expect? Physics again guys. How
can you even tell WITH A ONE POUND CAMERA? Try to hold a Mamiya
RB67 with a prism and a 250mm lens attached to an L-grip and you'll
get the idea (maybe not). Cameras were made to be held with two
hands.
Tripod socket offset! Once again refer to the weight distribution.
If the camera is heavier on the left I would expect the tripod
socket to be on the left. I won't know the balace point until I get
it, but it's not a big point with a 1 pound electronic camera.
Panoramas more difficult to perform! Got news for you - unless you
know the nodal point of your lens, and have a mounting plate that
is adjusted properly, you're not doing it right anyway! BTW my
Gitzo 1227CF arrived from Robert White's today (good old UPS),
YAAY! I needed an excuse to get a smaller model.
Good news for me, the Microdrive doesn't have an appreciable effect
on battery consumption, and actually writes large files faster! My
1GB also arrived today, YAAY (good old FEDEX)!
As for the resolution, it's as good as any other consumercam out
there with a 7:1 zoom - LOL! And as for the difference in
resolution between one site and another - EVER HEARD OF SAMPLE
VARIATION? Who knows how well they were focused to begin with (no
shot intended)? There are mechanical tolerances throughout the
camera, could be any number of reasons. If it had tested to 1600 on
this site would you have bought it? It's not at all unusual for
individual lenses to vary by 30% when talking resolution numbers.
Still, considering that 90% of you were never really considering
buying the camera in the first place, there haven't been that many
dumb posts yet (guess we'll have to wait for the Americans to get
home from work). I'm American, and living in the good old US of A.
Before visiting this forum I had thought that Americans had
cornered the market on whining and bitching, I was wrong. They do
still lead the pack though. Any of you ladies (homeboys) out there
who are going to cancel your orders now, if you have a preorder in
at Eppersons please do it quickly - I want to make sure that I'm
one of the ones who gets his camera from the first shipment.
Do any of you actually take photographs??? I'll be out taking them
while the majority of you are still here (or somewhere else)
whining. Hey, I heard that Pentax is about to release their new
camera! Why don't you all stampede over there and set-up shop?
ROFLMAO!

Bob Jones wrote:

Wayne, not all of us live in the "Good old US of A, and not all of
us have £1000 to throw away on a bad camera. I am buying a camera
to replace my Pentax EI2000 which turned out to be a poor choice so
I won't be hot footing it to their site tonight. I need a camera
with the ability to take good pictures and will be rugged in
design, enough so to last me a couple of years of general and
outdoor use, a camera that will not stand the rigors of hiking in
rough terrain is no good to me.
Therefore I am considering the D7 and the E10, what worries be
about the D7 is the problems highlighted in Phil's review about
flimsy appearance.

I would suggest the E-10 then. No one has complained about its build quality.

No Pence, I am as amateur as you can get, I love photography but as a hobby. Relaibility is my main concern, having been dissapointed in the past, I am going to make sure it dosen't happen again. I agree the D7 look excellent in many ways, but so did the last camera I bought. I feel this time I am going to make sure, well as sure as I can that I get the camera that's right form me.

Pence wrote:
I agree with Wayne. There may be a few "issues" with the D7, but
it still is the camera for me. I am in no way a photographer,
wouldn't even call myself an amateur, but people tell me my
photopgraphs are good. I have been watching this forum and
information on the D7 since Phil's first review back in May...I
still think it is a great camera. For all of you who are
complaining about the build and feel of the camera, why not try to
wait for it to hit the stores and then go and feel for
yourselves....everyones opinion on something is different. Here in
the US there are quit a few stores that have the models out for you
to play with. As for buying the camera online: i will just make
sure the place I get it from has a nice return policy just in case
(doubt I will use it).

I assume that most of you are "professional" photographers....and
let me just say that most of you have a way of pushing away the
amatuer photographer with "horror" stories about the D7. I thought
Phil's new review was very favorable...I'm still buying the camera.

Kam

Wayne wrote:

No this camera won't cure your bad breath, get you a date on Friday
night, or stop your balding spot from expanding (or your waistline
for that matter). It's a camera people - get over it! It still has
the best combination of features and performance for the price
(actually still the only game in town). It even has features that
weren't announced that make it more attractive - increased color
space for one.
O.K. it eats batteries - ONLY 100 shots per set. Guess you people
have never used sheet or roll film! There may be a good reason why
it takes so few shots - to save your poor relatives and any other
audience from having to see more of your photos. When was the last
time any of you took 100 keepers at a sitting (don't answer because
this is directly related to your taste, or lack thereof, and I
don't want to know). You CAN change the batteries you know! I have
4 more sets on the way. If it gets bad I'll just build my D-cell
pack - 38 watts of POWER!
It gets hot! Great! For those of you who are unaware of physics
when heat is generated it is either stored or transferred to
surrounding materials. The fact that the body gets warm indicates
that the metal body is conducting the heat AWAY from the interior
of the camera. Wear an oven mitt if it bothers you.
The shutter button locks up! Great! When I take a photo I want it
to be taken when I decide (plus normal delay which I can compensate
for), not two, three, or four seconds later when the camera is
ready. If I miss a shot I'm going to miss it either way - this way
I'm aware of it. Ever hear of "The decisive moment"?
The camera is heavy on the left! HUH? The grip is on the right, the
body is on the left, what do you expect? Physics again guys. How
can you even tell WITH A ONE POUND CAMERA? Try to hold a Mamiya
RB67 with a prism and a 250mm lens attached to an L-grip and you'll
get the idea (maybe not). Cameras were made to be held with two
hands.
Tripod socket offset! Once again refer to the weight distribution.
If the camera is heavier on the left I would expect the tripod
socket to be on the left. I won't know the balace point until I get
it, but it's not a big point with a 1 pound electronic camera.
Panoramas more difficult to perform! Got news for you - unless you
know the nodal point of your lens, and have a mounting plate that
is adjusted properly, you're not doing it right anyway! BTW my
Gitzo 1227CF arrived from Robert White's today (good old UPS),
YAAY! I needed an excuse to get a smaller model.
Good news for me, the Microdrive doesn't have an appreciable effect
on battery consumption, and actually writes large files faster! My
1GB also arrived today, YAAY (good old FEDEX)!
As for the resolution, it's as good as any other consumercam out
there with a 7:1 zoom - LOL! And as for the difference in
resolution between one site and another - EVER HEARD OF SAMPLE
VARIATION? Who knows how well they were focused to begin with (no
shot intended)? There are mechanical tolerances throughout the
camera, could be any number of reasons. If it had tested to 1600 on
this site would you have bought it? It's not at all unusual for
individual lenses to vary by 30% when talking resolution numbers.
Still, considering that 90% of you were never really considering
buying the camera in the first place, there haven't been that many
dumb posts yet (guess we'll have to wait for the Americans to get
home from work). I'm American, and living in the good old US of A.
Before visiting this forum I had thought that Americans had
cornered the market on whining and bitching, I was wrong. They do
still lead the pack though. Any of you ladies (homeboys) out there
who are going to cancel your orders now, if you have a preorder in
at Eppersons please do it quickly - I want to make sure that I'm
one of the ones who gets his camera from the first shipment.
Do any of you actually take photographs??? I'll be out taking them
while the majority of you are still here (or somewhere else)
whining. Hey, I heard that Pentax is about to release their new
camera! Why don't you all stampede over there and set-up shop?
ROFLMAO!

I think that two things that would bug me most about the D7 would be no TTL finder and the incredibly slow burst rate of over a SECOND! You're going to miss pictures with this thing, guaranteed.

Ken

Pence wrote:
I agree with Wayne. There may be a few "issues" with the D7, but
it still is the camera for me. I am in no way a photographer,
wouldn't even call myself an amateur, but people tell me my
photopgraphs are good. I have been watching this forum and
information on the D7 since Phil's first review back in May...I
still think it is a great camera. For all of you who are
complaining about the build and feel of the camera, why not try to
wait for it to hit the stores and then go and feel for
yourselves....everyones opinion on something is different. Here in
the US there are quit a few stores that have the models out for you
to play with. As for buying the camera online: i will just make
sure the place I get it from has a nice return policy just in case
(doubt I will use it).

I assume that most of you are "professional" photographers....and
let me just say that most of you have a way of pushing away the
amatuer photographer with "horror" stories about the D7. I thought
Phil's new review was very favorable...I'm still buying the camera.

Kam

Wayne wrote:

No this camera won't cure your bad breath, get you a date on Friday
night, or stop your balding spot from expanding (or your waistline
for that matter). It's a camera people - get over it! It still has
the best combination of features and performance for the price
(actually still the only game in town). It even has features that
weren't announced that make it more attractive - increased color
space for one.
O.K. it eats batteries - ONLY 100 shots per set. Guess you people
have never used sheet or roll film! There may be a good reason why
it takes so few shots - to save your poor relatives and any other
audience from having to see more of your photos. When was the last
time any of you took 100 keepers at a sitting (don't answer because
this is directly related to your taste, or lack thereof, and I
don't want to know). You CAN change the batteries you know! I have
4 more sets on the way. If it gets bad I'll just build my D-cell
pack - 38 watts of POWER!
It gets hot! Great! For those of you who are unaware of physics
when heat is generated it is either stored or transferred to
surrounding materials. The fact that the body gets warm indicates
that the metal body is conducting the heat AWAY from the interior
of the camera. Wear an oven mitt if it bothers you.
The shutter button locks up! Great! When I take a photo I want it
to be taken when I decide (plus normal delay which I can compensate
for), not two, three, or four seconds later when the camera is
ready. If I miss a shot I'm going to miss it either way - this way
I'm aware of it. Ever hear of "The decisive moment"?
The camera is heavy on the left! HUH? The grip is on the right, the
body is on the left, what do you expect? Physics again guys. How
can you even tell WITH A ONE POUND CAMERA? Try to hold a Mamiya
RB67 with a prism and a 250mm lens attached to an L-grip and you'll
get the idea (maybe not). Cameras were made to be held with two
hands.
Tripod socket offset! Once again refer to the weight distribution.
If the camera is heavier on the left I would expect the tripod
socket to be on the left. I won't know the balace point until I get
it, but it's not a big point with a 1 pound electronic camera.
Panoramas more difficult to perform! Got news for you - unless you
know the nodal point of your lens, and have a mounting plate that
is adjusted properly, you're not doing it right anyway! BTW my
Gitzo 1227CF arrived from Robert White's today (good old UPS),
YAAY! I needed an excuse to get a smaller model.
Good news for me, the Microdrive doesn't have an appreciable effect
on battery consumption, and actually writes large files faster! My
1GB also arrived today, YAAY (good old FEDEX)!
As for the resolution, it's as good as any other consumercam out
there with a 7:1 zoom - LOL! And as for the difference in
resolution between one site and another - EVER HEARD OF SAMPLE
VARIATION? Who knows how well they were focused to begin with (no
shot intended)? There are mechanical tolerances throughout the
camera, could be any number of reasons. If it had tested to 1600 on
this site would you have bought it? It's not at all unusual for
individual lenses to vary by 30% when talking resolution numbers.
Still, considering that 90% of you were never really considering
buying the camera in the first place, there haven't been that many
dumb posts yet (guess we'll have to wait for the Americans to get
home from work). I'm American, and living in the good old US of A.
Before visiting this forum I had thought that Americans had
cornered the market on whining and bitching, I was wrong. They do
still lead the pack though. Any of you ladies (homeboys) out there
who are going to cancel your orders now, if you have a preorder in
at Eppersons please do it quickly - I want to make sure that I'm
one of the ones who gets his camera from the first shipment.
Do any of you actually take photographs??? I'll be out taking them
while the majority of you are still here (or somewhere else)
whining. Hey, I heard that Pentax is about to release their new
camera! Why don't you all stampede over there and set-up shop?
ROFLMAO!

That depends on what kind of pictures you take.

Ken Huckeba wrote:

I think that two things that would bug me most about the D7 would
be no TTL finder and the incredibly slow burst rate of over a
SECOND! You're going to miss pictures with this thing, guaranteed.

Ken

As Phil's crane animation shows, beware automation.

The burst stuff, I guess, is like bracketing exposures. I think something interesting is happening so fire off a burst. Then find that one moment when the tip of Jordan's tongue is just touching his cheek. Of course, as an arteest, I sneer at such automation. Why someday we'll have super fast 1000 shots/s burst mode and neural nets which will instantly select the publishable photos. Hey, I'm not kidding. My master's project was an automated vision processing system for quality control. So I know.

Mike Roberts

P.S. The thesis part is true.

For $1500 you should get oral prophylaxis, too? That's what the D30 is for!

(The D1X, I have heard, comes with its own miniature dentist. He slides into one of the battery compartments and doesn't appear unless you need him -- sort of like the animated paper clip, only with Novocaine.) (I swear, I would not make up a thing like this.)

Bob Jones wrote:

Bit miffed about it not being able to cure my bad breath though.

Try as I did to become Terribly, Terribly Offended by your first message, instead I chuckled all the way through it. Damn, but I hate it when that happens. How can a guy work himself up into a good old self-righteous snit when he's giggling? It's SO undignified.

feel and look terrible next to a good 35mm. My present Casio really
feels like crap, but has taken almost as much abuse as my 35mm
cameras (minus the header onto concrete while on top of a tripod).
The plastic "feeling" (and appearance) doesn't necessarily
translate into flimsy construction.

I hope you were spared the thread in which some poor soul insisted that the way the camera looks actually affects the quality of the pictures taken with it. It was a gen-you-wine milestone in the annals of rocket science, that message. I arranged to have every precious word of it chiseled in stone, and now it's sitting bolt upright in our living room. People come from miles around to be healed by it. Out of the goodness of my heart, I do not charge admission. But I should.

Has anyone here ever actually picked up a D7, held it, or looked thru the "viewfinder"??? If so, you'd see, feel, and realize that it is NOT a $1500 camera...no matter how many "features" it has!!!

John

Bob Jones wrote:
Wayne, not all of us live in the "Good old US of A, and not all of
us have £1000 to throw away on a bad camera. I am buying a camera
to replace my Pentax EI2000 which turned out to be a poor choice so
I won't be hot footing it to their site tonight. I need a camera
with the ability to take good pictures and will be rugged in
design, enough so to last me a couple of years of general and
outdoor use, a camera that will not stand the rigors of hiking in
rough terrain is no good to me.
Therefore I am considering the D7 and the E10, what worries be
about the D7 is the problems highlighted in Phil's review about
flimsy appearance.

Wayne wrote:

No this camera won't cure your bad breath, get you a date on Friday
night, or stop your balding spot from expanding (or your waistline
for that matter). It's a camera people - get over it! It still has
the best combination of features and performance for the price
(actually still the only game in town). It even has features that
weren't announced that make it more attractive - increased color
space for one.
O.K. it eats batteries - ONLY 100 shots per set. Guess you people
have never used sheet or roll film! There may be a good reason why
it takes so few shots - to save your poor relatives and any other
audience from having to see more of your photos. When was the last
time any of you took 100 keepers at a sitting (don't answer because
this is directly related to your taste, or lack thereof, and I
don't want to know). You CAN change the batteries you know! I have
4 more sets on the way. If it gets bad I'll just build my D-cell
pack - 38 watts of POWER!
It gets hot! Great! For those of you who are unaware of physics
when heat is generated it is either stored or transferred to
surrounding materials. The fact that the body gets warm indicates
that the metal body is conducting the heat AWAY from the interior
of the camera. Wear an oven mitt if it bothers you.
The shutter button locks up! Great! When I take a photo I want it
to be taken when I decide (plus normal delay which I can compensate
for), not two, three, or four seconds later when the camera is
ready. If I miss a shot I'm going to miss it either way - this way
I'm aware of it. Ever hear of "The decisive moment"?
The camera is heavy on the left! HUH? The grip is on the right, the
body is on the left, what do you expect? Physics again guys. How
can you even tell WITH A ONE POUND CAMERA? Try to hold a Mamiya
RB67 with a prism and a 250mm lens attached to an L-grip and you'll
get the idea (maybe not). Cameras were made to be held with two
hands.
Tripod socket offset! Once again refer to the weight distribution.
If the camera is heavier on the left I would expect the tripod
socket to be on the left. I won't know the balace point until I get
it, but it's not a big point with a 1 pound electronic camera.
Panoramas more difficult to perform! Got news for you - unless you
know the nodal point of your lens, and have a mounting plate that
is adjusted properly, you're not doing it right anyway! BTW my
Gitzo 1227CF arrived from Robert White's today (good old UPS),
YAAY! I needed an excuse to get a smaller model.
Good news for me, the Microdrive doesn't have an appreciable effect
on battery consumption, and actually writes large files faster! My
1GB also arrived today, YAAY (good old FEDEX)!
As for the resolution, it's as good as any other consumercam out
there with a 7:1 zoom - LOL! And as for the difference in
resolution between one site and another - EVER HEARD OF SAMPLE
VARIATION? Who knows how well they were focused to begin with (no
shot intended)? There are mechanical tolerances throughout the
camera, could be any number of reasons. If it had tested to 1600 on
this site would you have bought it? It's not at all unusual for
individual lenses to vary by 30% when talking resolution numbers.
Still, considering that 90% of you were never really considering
buying the camera in the first place, there haven't been that many
dumb posts yet (guess we'll have to wait for the Americans to get
home from work). I'm American, and living in the good old US of A.
Before visiting this forum I had thought that Americans had
cornered the market on whining and bitching, I was wrong. They do
still lead the pack though. Any of you ladies (homeboys) out there
who are going to cancel your orders now, if you have a preorder in
at Eppersons please do it quickly - I want to make sure that I'm
one of the ones who gets his camera from the first shipment.
Do any of you actually take photographs??? I'll be out taking them
while the majority of you are still here (or somewhere else)
whining. Hey, I heard that Pentax is about to release their new
camera! Why don't you all stampede over there and set-up shop?
ROFLMAO!

Well I will put it this way..my first digital camera was the Kodac DC290...I love the camera takes great pictures but at approximately 9sec between shots, I think the D7s approx 1-3sec between shots is a drastic improvement over what I have! And since I am not a professional, I refuse to pay over $1500 for a camera.

Mike Roberts wrote:
That depends on what kind of pictures you take.

Ken Huckeba wrote:

I think that two things that would bug me most about the D7 would
be no TTL finder and the incredibly slow burst rate of over a
SECOND! You're going to miss pictures with this thing, guaranteed.

Ken

Or...I could take myself to a camera store and physically compare cameras side by side rather than worry over what a review says. That's what I did; I highly recommend it!! :))))

John

Bernard Carns wrote:
Oh shush......

Take your E-10 and your blanket back to the Olympus forum......

BC

Gourdfather wrote:
Has anyone here ever actually picked up a D7, held it, or looked
thru the "viewfinder"??? If so, you'd see, feel, and realize that
it is NOT a $1500 camera...no matter how many "features" it has!!!

John

Bob Jones wrote:
Wayne, not all of us live in the "Good old US of A, and not all of
us have £1000 to throw away on a bad camera. I am buying a camera
to replace my Pentax EI2000 which turned out to be a poor choice so
I won't be hot footing it to their site tonight. I need a camera
with the ability to take good pictures and will be rugged in
design, enough so to last me a couple of years of general and
outdoor use, a camera that will not stand the rigors of hiking in
rough terrain is no good to me.
Therefore I am considering the D7 and the E10, what worries be
about the D7 is the problems highlighted in Phil's review about
flimsy appearance.

Wayne wrote:

No this camera won't cure your bad breath, get you a date on Friday
night, or stop your balding spot from expanding (or your waistline
for that matter). It's a camera people - get over it! It still has
the best combination of features and performance for the price
(actually still the only game in town). It even has features that
weren't announced that make it more attractive - increased color
space for one.
O.K. it eats batteries - ONLY 100 shots per set. Guess you people
have never used sheet or roll film! There may be a good reason why
it takes so few shots - to save your poor relatives and any other
audience from having to see more of your photos. When was the last
time any of you took 100 keepers at a sitting (don't answer because
this is directly related to your taste, or lack thereof, and I
don't want to know). You CAN change the batteries you know! I have
4 more sets on the way. If it gets bad I'll just build my D-cell
pack - 38 watts of POWER!
It gets hot! Great! For those of you who are unaware of physics
when heat is generated it is either stored or transferred to
surrounding materials. The fact that the body gets warm indicates
that the metal body is conducting the heat AWAY from the interior
of the camera. Wear an oven mitt if it bothers you.
The shutter button locks up! Great! When I take a photo I want it
to be taken when I decide (plus normal delay which I can compensate
for), not two, three, or four seconds later when the camera is
ready. If I miss a shot I'm going to miss it either way - this way
I'm aware of it. Ever hear of "The decisive moment"?
The camera is heavy on the left! HUH? The grip is on the right, the
body is on the left, what do you expect? Physics again guys. How
can you even tell WITH A ONE POUND CAMERA? Try to hold a Mamiya
RB67 with a prism and a 250mm lens attached to an L-grip and you'll
get the idea (maybe not). Cameras were made to be held with two
hands.
Tripod socket offset! Once again refer to the weight distribution.
If the camera is heavier on the left I would expect the tripod
socket to be on the left. I won't know the balace point until I get
it, but it's not a big point with a 1 pound electronic camera.
Panoramas more difficult to perform! Got news for you - unless you
know the nodal point of your lens, and have a mounting plate that
is adjusted properly, you're not doing it right anyway! BTW my
Gitzo 1227CF arrived from Robert White's today (good old UPS),
YAAY! I needed an excuse to get a smaller model.
Good news for me, the Microdrive doesn't have an appreciable effect
on battery consumption, and actually writes large files faster! My
1GB also arrived today, YAAY (good old FEDEX)!
As for the resolution, it's as good as any other consumercam out
there with a 7:1 zoom - LOL! And as for the difference in
resolution between one site and another - EVER HEARD OF SAMPLE
VARIATION? Who knows how well they were focused to begin with (no
shot intended)? There are mechanical tolerances throughout the
camera, could be any number of reasons. If it had tested to 1600 on
this site would you have bought it? It's not at all unusual for
individual lenses to vary by 30% when talking resolution numbers.
Still, considering that 90% of you were never really considering
buying the camera in the first place, there haven't been that many
dumb posts yet (guess we'll have to wait for the Americans to get
home from work). I'm American, and living in the good old US of A.
Before visiting this forum I had thought that Americans had
cornered the market on whining and bitching, I was wrong. They do
still lead the pack though. Any of you ladies (homeboys) out there
who are going to cancel your orders now, if you have a preorder in
at Eppersons please do it quickly - I want to make sure that I'm
one of the ones who gets his camera from the first shipment.
Do any of you actually take photographs??? I'll be out taking them
while the majority of you are still here (or somewhere else)
whining. Hey, I heard that Pentax is about to release their new
camera! Why don't you all stampede over there and set-up shop?
ROFLMAO!