Can you imagine such a web site ?

I talked to the admin at the Fujimugs website (Dan Wolf) and he said it would be fine to meet in his chat room to discuss this. It's very easy to get to and use -- just go to the fujimugs.com website and clik the CHAT link. You can sign in to chat even if you are not a member. Now the question is... when? :)
Well i am interested, so i would be disappointed if it went to a chat room which was erased in 12 hours:( i would suggest something like a Wiki where we could build a base of community knowledge. Or a Blog would allow more authorship information, but be less subject oriented... i could probably help with a blog, as i have access to the Harvard blog.
greg
 
I talked to the admin at the Fujimugs website (Dan Wolf) and he said it would be fine to meet in his chat room to discuss this. It's very easy to get to and use -- just go to the fujimugs.com website and clik the CHAT link. You can sign in to chat even if you are not a member. Now the question is... when? :)
Well i am interested, so i would be disappointed if it went to a
chat room which was erased in 12 hours:( i would suggest something
like a Wiki where we could build a base of community knowledge. Or
a Blog would allow more authorship information, but be less subject
oriented... i could probably help with a blog, as i have access to
the Harvard blog.
greg
Hi Greg --

The chat may be just a way to kick start things (if all the threads in here are not enough to kick start something... :)

Chats are very informal and can be looked at as a brainstorming sort of thing, rather than a blog where your words are down for the ages (unless your server horks, or your service goes away, or the internet dies a wicked death... eek!)

Just a thought.

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best,
shudder
 
1. you take photos but you don't know how to post-process them very well. You come on the site, you register and you publish your photos a la pbase. You propose a retouching job and any comments that go with it (the max price you can offer, technical data, wishes, etc...).
i wonder how well this would work with the Serveo technology?
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=9203580
http://www.serveo.com
In theory a lot of editing could be done "by the numbers" and the
ability to cutout the "online" storage could be a big help.
Essentially you just need a central server for an online market,
not for moving/storing pixels ... or maybe even edits. Would make
it a lot more practical for big/raw originals.
greg
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Alan
 
I went to Fujimugs, nobody was in the chat room. I think for that to work, everyone would have to be notified ahead of time about a specific time when we'd all "meet" there. I can't see this working out too well due to the fact that we are all in various parts of the world. In other words time of day and differing schedules would really put a crimp on this.

So I would be inclined to go with the blog idea, or Wiki. Except... what IS wiki? I've never heard of it; I tried http://www.wiki.com , that led nowhere.

Bob Quinn

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I talked to the admin at the Fujimugs website (Dan Wolf) and he said it would be fine to meet in his chat room to discuss this. It's very easy to get to and use -- just go to the fujimugs.com website and clik the CHAT link. You can sign in to chat even if you are not a member. Now the question is... when? :)
Well i am interested, so i would be disappointed if it went to a
chat room which was erased in 12 hours:( i would suggest something
like a Wiki where we could build a base of community knowledge. Or
a Blog would allow more authorship information, but be less subject
oriented... i could probably help with a blog, as i have access to
the Harvard blog.
greg
 
I went to Fujimugs, ... In other words time of day and differing schedules would really put a crimp on this.
Yes my experience too, that and there is no end result, poof, bitbin.
So I would be inclined to go with the blog idea, or Wiki. Except... what IS wiki? I've never heard of it; I tried http://www.wiki.com , that led nowhere.
Not really sure what the best starting place for wiki is. One can google it
http://www.google.com/search?q=wiki

Or here is a prototypical example of an encyclopedic entry describing wiki itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki

Wikis primarily excel at documenting communal knowledge. Sort of mass written encyclopedias. i don't know what the best servers are. i know it is possible to get them for free, though you have to be careful freebies don't pull the rug on you if you let them lapse unused (ie someone should keep them carefully archived). And as always with group process someone needs to ensure someone does not trash the enterprise.

Blogs tend to have better membership control functionality, and more definitive authorship, but at the loss of flexibility in precisely editing wording.
greg
 
I went to Fujimugs, ... In other words time of day and differing schedules would really put a crimp on this.
Yes my experience too, that and there is no end result, poof, bitbin.
We use the chat at fujimugs all the time, but it is true -- it is a sort of catch as catch can esperience, though I am often in there with several folks from Australia, the UK, Norway, Finland, Denmark and various parts of the US... It is hard to work things out unless you set up predetermined times. Of course this could be difficult. It was just a thought.
So I would be inclined to go with the blog idea, or Wiki. Except... what IS wiki? I've never heard of it; I tried http://www.wiki.com , that led nowhere.
We use TWiki at work (go to http://twiki.org/ for more info). It looks like standard html, except instead of having to work on and upload html pages, you simply click an edit button on the page you wish to edit and have at it. By design, this means that you better trust everyone who's in on the project. It ispossible to go back to a previous rev of a doc, but we have had problems with that at work (doesn't always work!). It's a great way to write collaborative web docs though, that is for sure. We put all of our department documentation and processes into TWiki and it is running very smoothly.
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best,
shudder
 
If you all agree, let me setup a blog on my server ? Then we could agree on a wau to proceed with it...

Nicolas
Thoughts anyone? Does anyone have any ideas for an alternate
e-meeting-place? A blog or something like that? I really can't
think of anything off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone will
have a GREAT idea.

Thanks,
Bob Quinn

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feivel
A few issues as a graphic/website designer that I can immediatly
think of is this..

1) Would need some serious bandwidth, not talking 20k images here
either. Each image could be 2-3 megs. With that many people
downloading and uploading the costs would be enormous. So, having
said that would need some financial backing. Memberships,
advertisements something that would generate money for the server
and bandwidth cost.

2) Would need each image to be approved my admins before it was
uploaded. Surely there might be images that should clearly not be
worked on. Humourous or from a legal standpoint. So that means a
hand full of people working around the clock to ensure the standard
and quality a site like this needs to be maintained properly.

3) I personally think that if I was to upload an image to a server
to have people to work on it then I would hope the "worker" has a
colour calibrated monitor. Paying good money for someone to
"correct" your image(s) only to find out when you printed it or had
them printed, and they turned out poorly. What looks orange on one
monitor could infact be brown. Contrast and colours would need to
be bang on.

Yeah, it's a good idea, but it needs more thought.

Oh, and if anyone wants to go ahead with it.

http://www.edgeflowmedia.com

I'll design it!! :P
 
bong...
If you all agree, let me setup a blog on my server ? Then we could
agree on a wau to proceed with it...
wau = way, of course

Nicolas
Thoughts anyone? Does anyone have any ideas for an alternate
e-meeting-place? A blog or something like that? I really can't
think of anything off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone will
have a GREAT idea.

Thanks,
Bob Quinn

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feivel
A few issues as a graphic/website designer that I can immediatly
think of is this..

1) Would need some serious bandwidth, not talking 20k images here
either. Each image could be 2-3 megs. With that many people
downloading and uploading the costs would be enormous. So, having
said that would need some financial backing. Memberships,
advertisements something that would generate money for the server
and bandwidth cost.

2) Would need each image to be approved my admins before it was
uploaded. Surely there might be images that should clearly not be
worked on. Humourous or from a legal standpoint. So that means a
hand full of people working around the clock to ensure the standard
and quality a site like this needs to be maintained properly.

3) I personally think that if I was to upload an image to a server
to have people to work on it then I would hope the "worker" has a
colour calibrated monitor. Paying good money for someone to
"correct" your image(s) only to find out when you printed it or had
them printed, and they turned out poorly. What looks orange on one
monitor could infact be brown. Contrast and colours would need to
be bang on.

Yeah, it's a good idea, but it needs more thought.

Oh, and if anyone wants to go ahead with it.

http://www.edgeflowmedia.com

I'll design it!! :P
 
If you all agree, let me setup a blog on my server ? Then we could agree on a way to proceed with it...
If you would like to use the Harvard Manila Blog server i have reserved two blognames, retouch and retouchers there. Email me at dpreview.biz~at~gheil.mm.st and we can work together on using it.
greg
 
This may have already been mentioned, so I apologize in advance if it has, but.....

Hasn't this already been roughly done?

I used http://www.guru.com/ to have my logos done and it was a great and economical process.

If I recall correctly, there is a section for photography on there.

If you haven't seen it, it's worth checking out, especially how they handle payment processing, bidding, etc. If you've already seen it, I apologize for taking bandwidth.

Glenn
 
The best of the best who use photoshop don't all use this forum...
OK, forget about reality and just try to imagine the following web
site:

1. you take photos but you don't know how to post-process them very
well. You come on the site, you register and you publish your
photos a la pbase. You propose a retouching job and any comments
that go with it (the max price you can offer, technical data,
wishes, etc...). The next day you go on the site and you discover
that 3 professionnals have retouched one of your test photos (with
a watermark on it of course). You are amazed by one of them and you
decide to let him continue on all the pack. When done, you pay the
guy and that's it.

2. Inversely you are the guy who knows how to retouch photos and
you would like to make some money with it. You come on the site,
you register and you browse all the job offers. You propose your
skills to some of them by retouching some photos and some people
will hire you to continue all the pack. When done you are paid via
the site and that's it.

What do you think about such a web site ? Pros, cons, anything ?
Consider this topic as a brainstorming session.

Nicolas
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If the world was a logical place, men would ride horses sidesaddle.

Gary Willson
http://willsononline.com
 
This may have already been mentioned, so I apologize in advance if
it has, but.....

Hasn't this already been roughly done?

I used http://www.guru.com/ to have my logos done and it was a
great and economical process.

If I recall correctly, there is a section for photography on there.

If you haven't seen it, it's worth checking out, especially how
they handle payment processing, bidding, etc. If you've already
seen it, I apologize for taking bandwidth.
Roughly... They do have a photo section, but I did not see anything about any sort of post-processing services. Maybe I just missed it (but, then so too would most consumers...).

Seems to me that guru.com is a HUGE grab bag of different services ("366,000 Professionals" yada yada), and that's cool, but over the top. The venture here may find success in pursuing one thing, and doing it very well. We shall see...

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best,
shudder
 

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