Official WSSA Application Thread

there are limitations due to the glass being dirty and backlighting.


I like the second photo, but you're not finished with it. Three
things:

1. Crop. Get rid of some of the blurry stuff on the left (and the
dirty window effect).

2. Sharpen. Nothing major, but it's a bit soft.

3. Color Balance. The whole photo has a green cast to it. Warm it
up and the photo looks better.

I'll look forward to seeing the revised photo! :)

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Thank you for the comments!
  1. 2 Overexposed
Yes, now looking it again I think so too.
  1. 3 Interesting, but it's hard to tell it's a squirrel (the head is
so pointy!).
This was just for fun and the feeling of the speed these little critters move. I had also some wonderfull shots of empty birdfeeder and tree bark...
The reason I thought you might want to re-shoot is that it's a bit
awkward how the tail and rear of the squirrel are closest to us,
but they're out of focus. Perhaps a change in f stop would help,
something like f/5.6 or so. If you can't re-shoot, just make a
couple of changes to help the first one emphasize the squirrel
more, and it'll be good enough.
I see your point. I think the little robber was just moving its tail preparing to jump for the bird feeder, and my shutter speed was not up to that. I will see what I can do about this photo first, and if it doesn't work then its time for reshoot.

Thanks Todd, it is always good the get feedback from the ultimate authority of squirrel shooting! :-)

Regards,

Jokke
 
Todd,

This time tighter crop to eliminate the fence, a bit more sharpening, but the tail was obviously moving. I don't think I can make much more out of this picture, so I quess reshoot will be the solution. What do you think?



Regards,

Jokke
 
I just don't like the idea of shooting a flash off in the face of an animal, but I do see your point.

Regards
Christian.
I really like this one. That red fur is just fantastic! If you
ever get to take a photo like this again, I'd recommend using a
fill flash because you've lost some detail on the side facing us
due to it being in shadow. However, the red fur glowing on the
edges makes up for it.

Congratulations! You are WSSA Member #25
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Yes, you've asked for it! Here it is! Your chance to join the
ranks of the Worldwide Squirrel Shooters Association!!! This
window of opportunity only lasts until May 5, so get those squirrel
photos up quickly!!!!

Our roster so far is:

1 Todd Art
2 Brenda in TX
3. sapro
4, Uncle Frank
5. Kamron
6. Vinod Menon
7. Philippe Roger
8. Uncle Wally
9. CAT
10. miggy
11. Duece
12. Steven S
13. Kaj E
14. Paul G.
15. Vernon
16. Sandra Jackson
17. Toughguy 91
18. Sheila
20. Elias
21. Gail
22. Midnight2
23. Big Lar

Good luck, and don't whine if I'm a bit picky. I'll be looking for
good exposure, good sharpness, etc., etc.

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Todd
http://www.muskopf.org
Hi Todd and the WSSA gang,

I thought I would pay my dues for the season... :-)



The squirrel is kind of smallish, but he was way up in the tree and making a really loud noise... until he spotted the camera: then this is the look he gave me for interrupting whatever he was doing up there, LOL.
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Philippe
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Yes, you've asked for it! Here it is! Your chance to join the
ranks of the Worldwide Squirrel Shooters Association!!! This
window of opportunity only lasts until May 5, so get those squirrel
photos up quickly!!!!

Our roster so far is:

1 Todd Art
2 Brenda in TX
3. sapro
4, Uncle Frank
5. Kamron
6. Vinod Menon
7. Philippe Roger
8. Uncle Wally
9. CAT
10. miggy
11. Duece
12. Steven S
13. Kaj E
14. Paul G.
15. Vernon
16. Sandra Jackson
17. Toughguy 91
18. Sheila
20. Elias
21. Gail
22. Midnight2
23. Big Lar

Good luck, and don't whine if I'm a bit picky. I'll be looking for
good exposure, good sharpness, etc., etc.



--
Todd
http://www.muskopf.org
Hey Todd, Just returned from a Squirrel Safari in the woods nearby. Hope this makes the grade.
Please don't make me go back in there!



CHeers,
RobG

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Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have film!
 
It's OK, but I think setting yourself up with a reshoot would be the best thing. You've got some wonderful squirrels in your part of the world. I think it'd be nice to come away from all of this with a wonderful photo as well, not just an "OK" one. Since you applied during the May 1-5 time period, if it takes a bit longer to get an opportunity for a more definitive shot, just resubmit it when you can, even if it's past May 5.
Todd,

This time tighter crop to eliminate the fence, a bit more
sharpening, but the tail was obviously moving. I don't think I can
make much more out of this picture, so I quess reshoot will be the
solution. What do you think?



Regards,

Jokke
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Todd
http://www.muskopf.org
 
Which camera were you using here? It doesn't look like you were able to zoom in real close, which isn't so bad, but it looks like the shutter speed was a touch too slow and you didn't get the details crisp. With some cameras, this might be as good as you can get, with others, I might send you back in that dark forest of the bushy-tailed villains.

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Todd
http://www.muskopf.org
 
No, WSSA doesn't discriminate, so 10D pics are just fine.

I didn't know which one you wanted me to look at, but I liked 9739 the best, so I'll talk about it. I liked the composition and the "candidness" of the pic. I think you can do a couple of things to make it better, though. Try these things:

Gamma: Your pics of squirrels in general have an underexposed feel to them. I upped the gamma to 1.3 and it looks brighter without blowing highlights.

Color Balance: I slid the Cyan-Red +5 (towards red) and the Yellow-Blue -5 (toward yellow). This gave a much warmer and yet natural look.

Sharpen: A slight USM adjustment restored crispness to the paw and face.

Give it a shot, see what you think.
My application resides at:
http://gpb.seanet.com/10d/pictures/index.php?action=gallery&theme=tree_rat

It didn't find a full set of the requirements for joining WSSA, so
if a Nikon camera is required, please ignore this application.
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Todd
http://www.muskopf.org
 
Which camera were you using here? It doesn't look like you were
able to zoom in real close, which isn't so bad, but it looks like
the shutter speed was a touch too slow and you didn't get the
details crisp. With some cameras, this might be as good as you can
get, with others, I might send you back in that dark forest of the
bushy-tailed villains.

--
Todd
http://www.muskopf.org
You ever see the teeth on a Canadian Squirrel after a hard winter. OK, I used an 8700,and the shutter speed was only about 1/26th but, he just looked so mean. Right eh... ok, I made another attempt, I knew you would require it.
Its a bit washed out, but PS and I have are getting to know each other.



Cheers,
RobG

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Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have film!
 
I didn't know which one you wanted me to look at, but I liked 9739
If it has to be a specific picture, rather than the the group as a whole, I think

http://gpb.seanet.com/10d/pictures/?action=show&image=9772_squirrel_planning_something_evil
is the best one of the bunch.
Gamma: Your pics of squirrels in general have an underexposed feel
to them. I upped the gamma
To me, upping the gamma made it look washed out and severly lacking in contrast. In general, I prefer a dark tonal balance in most images.
Color Balance: I slid the Cyan-Red +5 (towards red) and the
Yellow-Blue -5 (toward yellow). This gave a much warmer and yet
natural look.
I like the current color settings. A "natural look" is rarely what I try to achieve. For this particular image, the only change that I made in Photoshop was a large increase in saturation.

As far as color balance and gamma: I do my editing with Photoshop CS on a Mac, and keep the ICC profile in the image when I export for the web. I realize that is unconventional, but the way I see it is that since the only browser that does a really good job of displaying images is Safari for Mac, that I should target that browser. Your browser is probably not using the ICC profile, and it is possible that either your editing software isn't, or one of our monitors is out of calibration.
Sharpen: A slight USM adjustment restored crispness to the paw and
face.
Lately, I haven't been using USM. It does make detail more apparent, but I think it also makes the image appear a bit more "coarse" as well as giving a bit of a "video" look.
Give it a shot, see what you think.
I tried your ideas, but liked my original better.
 
Greg, your pictures look severely underexposed on both my Windows machines calibrated with sRGB, despite that I think that it appears that you have tried to dodge the squirrels. You told you are using a Mac as the majority standard is Windows. Does this link give you some thoughts?

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/gamma_mac_pc.html

Kind regards
Kaj
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WSSA member
I didn't know which one you wanted me to look at, but I liked 9739
If it has to be a specific picture, rather than the the group as a
whole, I think

http://gpb.seanet.com/10d/pictures/?action=show&image=9772_squirrel_planning_something_evil
is the best one of the bunch.
Gamma: Your pics of squirrels in general have an underexposed feel
to them. I upped the gamma
To me, upping the gamma made it look washed out and severely lacking
in contrast. In general, I prefer a dark tonal balance in most
images.
Color Balance: I slid the Cyan-Red +5 (towards red) and the
Yellow-Blue -5 (toward yellow). This gave a much warmer and yet
natural look.
I like the current color settings. A "natural look" is rarely what
I try to achieve. For this particular image, the only change that
I made in Photoshop was a large increase in saturation.

As far as color balance and gamma: I do my editing with Photoshop
CS on a Mac, and keep the ICC profile in the image when I export
for the web. I realize that is unconventional, but the way I see
it is that since the only browser that does a really good job of
displaying images is Safari for Mac, that I should target that
browser. Your browser is probably not using the ICC profile, and it
is possible that either your editing software isn't, or one of our
monitors is out of calibration.
Sharpen: A slight USM adjustment restored crispness to the paw and
face.
Lately, I haven't been using USM. It does make detail more
apparent, but I think it also makes the image appear a bit more
"coarse" as well as giving a bit of a "video" look.
Give it a shot, see what you think.
I tried your ideas, but liked my original better.
 
Yes, I am aware of the gamma issues between Mac and PC.

I save my images in AdobeRGB (ICC profile in the image).

The reasons I do this:
Most Macs are fairly well calibrated, very few Windows PCs are.

Most Macs have decent monitors attached, a lot of people using Windows have bargain monitors.

The Safari browser is, to the best of my knowledge, the only browser that understands color management. With current browsers, the only way I can be reasonably certain that people are seeing the image properly is to have them use Safari.

I use my Mac much more than my Windows system. I'm not a fan of Microsoft. Given the choice of optimising for Microsoft, or for Apple, I'll always choose Apple for my personal work, and Windows for situations where the client is targeting the general Internet.

sRGB might be better supported, but it is vastly inferior to AdobeRGB.
Greg, your pictures look severely underexposed on both my Windows
machines calibrated with sRGB, despite that I think that it appears
that you have tried to dodge the squirrels. You told you are using
a Mac as the majority standard is Windows. Does this link give you
some thoughts?

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/gamma_mac_pc.html
 
It's OK, but I think setting yourself up with a reshoot would be
the best thing. You've got some wonderful squirrels in your part
of the world. I think it'd be nice to come away from all of this
with a wonderful photo as well, not just an "OK" one. Since you
applied during the May 1-5 time period, if it takes a bit longer to
get an opportunity for a more definitive shot, just resubmit it
when you can, even if it's past May 5.
Todd,

I agree, I want to do better! And thank you f this extended chance, it may be that it takes a bit longer. But I will get back to you as soon as I can. Now off to buy some nuts I think...

Regards,

Jokke
 

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