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Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...

Almost daily I go back and forth between this forum and the Canon 10D forum, and the pics in the Canon forum always look clearer, sharper, better focus, etc.

So which is it, Canon takes a better picture, or all the people in that forum are more skilled?? I own neither, still trying to decide. I've been hoping that the D70 would be the one based on its features and price, but the picture quality just ain't there IMHO. Go look for yourselves and compare the pics..

Yeah, flame away and call me a troll, whatever, just posting what I continually observe..
 
Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
Almost daily I go back and forth between this forum and the Canon
10D forum, and the pics in the Canon forum always look clearer,
sharper, better focus, etc.
So which is it, Canon takes a better picture, or all the people in
that forum are more skilled?? I own neither, still trying to
decide. I've been hoping that the D70 would be the one based on
its features and price, but the picture quality just ain't there
IMHO. Go look for yourselves and compare the pics..
Yeah, flame away and call me a troll, whatever, just posting what I
continually observe..
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Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
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...you could actually post some images you've capture to let us all know that your skills are so obviously superior to the obviously inferior D70.

You post obviously inflammatory and then follow it up with "whatever"?

Your wealth of ignorance astounds we simple folk.

Brendan
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Hey, I said that I own neither. I'm just observing what I see on both forums. Oh, and then there is that backfocusing thing...but thats obviously just a skill issue with everyone here as well, right???

99.9% of the people here no doubt have more photographic skill than I do. Again, just going by what I observe on these forums..
GagBagger said:
Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
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...you could actually post some images you've capture to let us all
know that your skills are so obviously superior to the obviously
inferior D70.

You post obviously inflammatory and then follow it up with "whatever"?

Your wealth of ignorance astounds we simple folk.

Brendan
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There are a few issues here.

1. the 10D has been out for quite some time so folks know its quirks ect.

2. can't compare pix w/out comparing glass on the camera

3. D70 is true entry level as opposed to 10D so the skill level of the some of photographers on the whole may be higher especially when coupled with extensive use of the camera. This is not to say there are no highly skilled photographers here, there are, but there are also alot like me who are not.

4. Phil's reviews show the image quality comparison to the 300D which is the same as 10D so there is a controlled experiment with similar level of glass.

5. If you like the 10D better, buy it. It costs $500 more. If you want that image quality and don't want to spend the extra money, get a 300D and live with the built in restrictions. If you want to spend $1000 and get a camera with options and settings, the D70 is it.

Ron
Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
Almost daily I go back and forth between this forum and the Canon
10D forum, and the pics in the Canon forum always look clearer,
sharper, better focus, etc.
So which is it, Canon takes a better picture, or all the people in
that forum are more skilled?? I own neither, still trying to
decide. I've been hoping that the D70 would be the one based on
its features and price, but the picture quality just ain't there
IMHO. Go look for yourselves and compare the pics..
Yeah, flame away and call me a troll, whatever, just posting what I
continually observe..
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Just my nickels worth.
Happy Snappin'!

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More newbies here now now than there. Check back on the Canon forum to just after the 10D came out!
Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
Almost daily I go back and forth between this forum and the Canon
10D forum, and the pics in the Canon forum always look clearer,
sharper, better focus, etc.
So which is it, Canon takes a better picture, or all the people in
that forum are more skilled?? I own neither, still trying to
decide. I've been hoping that the D70 would be the one based on
its features and price, but the picture quality just ain't there
IMHO. Go look for yourselves and compare the pics..
Yeah, flame away and call me a troll, whatever, just posting what I
continually observe..
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I had a D30 and a 10D. I sold my canon stuff to buy the D70. I really like the DX lenses. It seems it will be awhile before the canon makes a DX lens or an affordable full frame sensor. I like the D70 a lot. It is an extremely fast camera. Very similiar to a film camera. It does have more noise at each ISO setting than the 10D, BUT I really think it is much sharper than my 10D. Both cameras can make great images. But again the 18-70 lens is what sold me on Nikon. I can now have one lens and not two that I used to have in the canon world. I like travelling light so that is important to me.
Kevin said:
GagBagger said:
Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
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...you could actually post some images you've capture to let us all
know that your skills are so obviously superior to the obviously
inferior D70.

You post obviously inflammatory and then follow it up with "whatever"?

Your wealth of ignorance astounds we simple folk.

Brendan
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I too find the average image quality on the web not as high as those from 10D or even 300D. However, I don't think it's the fault of D70 but rather of users. This is a new camer that takes time to learn. The large number of newbies that it attracts (than 10D or D100) likely matters too.

It is why I started this thread:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=8515886

Check it out and you will find many great images from D70. So, blame the photographers and not the camera. I guarantee to you that soon we'll see high quality D70 images soon.

Heck, here are some from me. I don't thnk they are unclear, unsharp, or badly focused (excep the f/2.8 shot that I intentionally focused on the horn for OOF on everything else).

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=8541920

Keep your eyes and mind open.

Photobug
Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
Almost daily I go back and forth between this forum and the Canon
10D forum, and the pics in the Canon forum always look clearer,
sharper, better focus, etc.
So which is it, Canon takes a better picture, or all the people in
that forum are more skilled?? I own neither, still trying to
decide. I've been hoping that the D70 would be the one based on
its features and price, but the picture quality just ain't there
IMHO. Go look for yourselves and compare the pics..
Yeah, flame away and call me a troll, whatever, just posting what I
continually observe..
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I own the digital rebel and my buddy just bought the D70 and I was debating getting rid of my canon. But after a day comparing shot to shot I will keep my Rebel. Why? It isnt much different and I think my photos look better on my rebel. I had a hard time taking indoor night shots with the D70. The D70 at night look terriable compared to Canon. I am not trolling but I think they dogged out the rebel on the review for the D70.
 
Inconsistent flash exposure with internal flash is one the main reasons (the other being slow start) that I sold my 300D for D70. My experience is the exact opposite of yours.
zackman said:
I own the digital rebel and my buddy just bought the D70 and I was
debating getting rid of my canon. But after a day comparing shot
to shot I will keep my Rebel. Why? It isnt much different and I
think my photos look better on my rebel. I had a hard time taking
indoor night shots with the D70. The D70 at night look terriable
compared to Canon. I am not trolling but I think they dogged out
the rebel on the review for the D70.
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all we need are the image samples.. anyone can have a different view.. Phil can say that moire isn't an issue (although it appears in almost every test he did) and how some other problems are minor cuz parameters can be changed or customized etc.. and then point out how 300D sharpening produces halo artifacts when you can back off that by choosing a different parameter or shooting RAW..it's just his comments and the way he sees the test images.

The images show me the D70 is a very good camera.. it's too bad for me ISO100 and low noise are a VERY HIGH priority.. and D70 missed that.. Being able to use focus modes and metering is another priority which is why i can't bring myself to spend $800 on a camera with fixed metering/focus modes (300D) and/or $14000 for one that is heavier, larger but has the same sensor, not to mention needs a very expensive lens to be able to go wide angle.

I so wish D70 was an answer but judging from the photos so far, as you have noticed, the majority lacks that 'zing'... i wish there were more Albert Ho's who would give lurkers more confidence in the ultimate image quality of this wonderful new camera.
zackman said:
I own the digital rebel and my buddy just bought the D70 and I was
debating getting rid of my canon. But after a day comparing shot
to shot I will keep my Rebel. Why? It isnt much different and I
think my photos look better on my rebel. I had a hard time taking
indoor night shots with the D70. The D70 at night look terriable
compared to Canon. I am not trolling but I think they dogged out
the rebel on the review for the D70.
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Both cameras obviously take fantastic pictures (dependent on lens) but both have their own asthetic. D70 have a more photo-realistic tones to them (they might as well have been scanned in from velvia) and 10D have a sort of surrealistic, Dali aspect to them (I read that someone described the photos as if taken under water). I see what you mean in terms of image difference, but quality is another matter. Photography has always been subjective. Your eyes aren't my own. I personnaly can't see purchasing either of the cameras and being disappointed, the 10D being clean and sleak and producing photos that no 35mm film camera could match in terms of resolution and noise free images. For me, personnaly, when I look at a photo that I've taken, I don't want it to looked airbrushed and super perfect. I like imperfections (Why did the Persions always leave one knot untied in their rugs? Otherwise it would be perfect). The D70 (and all Nikon cameras) to me have an unpolished look; and more importantly, a feel that I can relate to. That's just me. They're more of a man's man type of set-up that I prefer.

Are supermodels beautiful? You bet. Would I want to date one? Not a chance.

ep
Kevin said:
GagBagger said:
Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
Click to expand...
...you could actually post some images you've capture to let us all
know that your skills are so obviously superior to the obviously
inferior D70.

You post obviously inflammatory and then follow it up with "whatever"?

Your wealth of ignorance astounds we simple folk.

Brendan
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Things that make you go, hmmmm...
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I don't buy that that picture was taken with a D70, straight out of the camera.

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RecalcitrantRon said:
This shot was posted by Albert Ho with his D70 and 85mm 1.4 lens.
The 10D may be its equal, but there is not way it is any better.
Have a look and see for yourself.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=8464831

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Happy Snappin'!

Ron
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Most people mess up flash on Nikon camera's because they use the flash with fill settings rather than with main flash settings, i.e., they use TTL Fill Flash with Matrix Meter without having the camera set to slow sync to mix with the ambient lighting. So their flash shots come out underexposed. When using Nikon flashes correctly, images are brilliant. Nikon is the best IMHO when it comes to flash.


zackman said:
I own the digital rebel and my buddy just bought the D70 and I was
debating getting rid of my canon. But after a day comparing shot
to shot I will keep my Rebel. Why? It isnt much different and I
think my photos look better on my rebel. I had a hard time taking
indoor night shots with the D70. The D70 at night look terriable
compared to Canon. I am not trolling but I think they dogged out
the rebel on the review for the D70.
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Why not?
Parsons said:
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RecalcitrantRon said:
This shot was posted by Albert Ho with his D70 and 85mm 1.4 lens.
The 10D may be its equal, but there is not way it is any better.
Have a look and see for yourself.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=8464831

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Just my nickels worth.
Happy Snappin'!

Ron
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What exactly is zing? This isn't animation. Good cameras produce for us, on paper, what we see with our eyes. Do you "Zing" while doing errands? Eating dinner? A lot of times we will find ourselves at a scene that surprises us; that says "Zing!". So we get the camera ready, change to the appropriate lens, set up the tripod ( all the while looking at the Zing!), envision the results, snap the picture, get home, turn on the computer, make some Ramen, play with the kitty, download the photos, and . . . What? Where's the Zing? I saw Zing and this isn't Zing! I want my Zing!

Don't let your mind's eye trick you into believing that the Zing! one day will equal the Zing! of the next.

ep
River Side said:
The images show me the D70 is a very good camera.. it's too bad for
me ISO100 and low noise are a VERY HIGH priority.. and D70 missed
that.. Being able to use focus modes and metering is another
priority which is why i can't bring myself to spend $800 on a
camera with fixed metering/focus modes (300D) and/or $14000 for one
that is heavier, larger but has the same sensor, not to mention
needs a very expensive lens to be able to go wide angle.

I so wish D70 was an answer but judging from the photos so far, as
you have noticed, the majority lacks that 'zing'... i wish there
were more Albert Ho's who would give lurkers more confidence in the
ultimate image quality of this wonderful new camera.
zackman said:
I own the digital rebel and my buddy just bought the D70 and I was
debating getting rid of my canon. But after a day comparing shot
to shot I will keep my Rebel. Why? It isnt much different and I
think my photos look better on my rebel. I had a hard time taking
indoor night shots with the D70. The D70 at night look terriable
compared to Canon. I am not trolling but I think they dogged out
the rebel on the review for the D70.
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I'm a regular poster on the D100/D1/D2 Forum. I shoot with the D100 and D2H. I'm picking up a D70 tomorrow. So I'll probably start posting in this forum to show you guys how it's done! :P

Oh, here's some samples back during my D100 days (before it got stolen, d@mn theives). I was getting sharp results with this camera and I'm confident the D70 won't be any different:




Kevin said:
Yeah, I'll get flamed for this....whatever...
Almost daily I go back and forth between this forum and the Canon
10D forum, and the pics in the Canon forum always look clearer,
sharper, better focus, etc.
So which is it, Canon takes a better picture, or all the people in
that forum are more skilled?? I own neither, still trying to
decide. I've been hoping that the D70 would be the one based on
its features and price, but the picture quality just ain't there
IMHO. Go look for yourselves and compare the pics..
Yeah, flame away and call me a troll, whatever, just posting what I
continually observe..
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My D100 was stolen. I will beat the cr@p out of all thieves.



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That is, in my opinion, the DIGIC processor at work. The saturation and dreamlike quality belie a Canon processor.

Don't get me wrong, I love the pic. I own a camera with the DIGIC processor and know how the images turn out. It's Canon's stamp.

I have nothing against Canon or Nikon. If I had Canon glass, I would buy a Canon. As it is, I own Nikon glass so have the D70. Couldn't be happier, really.

ep
fotogenetic said:
Parsons said:
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RecalcitrantRon said:
This shot was posted by Albert Ho with his D70 and 85mm 1.4 lens.
The 10D may be its equal, but there is not way it is any better.
Have a look and see for yourself.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=8464831

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Just my nickels worth.
Happy Snappin'!

Ron
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In fact, it looks like a 300D image. Do you know what I mean? The DIGIC processor has a very defined look to it, be it an S50, G5, Pro 1 or 300 D.

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fotogenetic said:
Parsons said:
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RecalcitrantRon said:
This shot was posted by Albert Ho with his D70 and 85mm 1.4 lens.
The 10D may be its equal, but there is not way it is any better.
Have a look and see for yourself.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=8464831

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Just my nickels worth.
Happy Snappin'!

Ron
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FCAS Member No. 68
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