A used UZI or a FZ2/ FZ10 ???

...if you will be keeping your 5050, the UZI would be a great
addition...
...interchangeable batteries and SM...5050 for pics requiring more
megapixels, and UZI for zoom and all around fun...
...you don't mention what "extras" are included, but for less than
$400, sounds like a good deal to me...
...let us know what you decide,
buzzy
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Hello again,

and than you for the info. Interesting, a defence contractor....buying up UZI's. are you going to sell yours?.....
Looks like I am going to have to decide fast!!!!
Kirsten
Yes, the FZ10 is similar in size. I think the FZ10 (FLuzzie) is
wider, but the C-2100UZ (UZI) is slightly longer (particularly with
a lens that doesn't retract at all). The people complaining about
the size are coming from FZ1 or C-750 (or other toy sized cameras).

In terms of used UZI's, there is evidently somebody from a defence
contractor that has been buying up all of the used stock, at higher
prices than normal (ie, $1200 in one auction), so it may be harder
to come by at the present time. The FZ10's are pretty easy to pick
up new.

The FZ10 compresses its picture more than the UZI does (its 4MB
pictures take roughly the same size as my UZI's 2MB pictures).
Whether it affects your particularl pictures, I don't know.

IMHO, the FZ10 has a serious design flaw, in that it's battery
holder is right next to the tripod screw thread, which means you
have to remove any quick release mechanisms before changing
batteries. While the UZI's thread is close to the battery door, it
is far enough away that I can use a Sima QuicKonnect quick release
and quickly change the batteries. Also misdesigned is having to
open the battery door to change memory cards. On my UZI, the door
is on the side, and I have often times changed cards on the UZI
while it was mounted on a tripod (mostly for sunrise/sunset
pictures).
 
Hello again,
One thing I forgot is the problem with "camera shake" as there is
no IS....
Do you have to use a tripod for most of your shots with the
c740/750 shots? Have you ever used an UZI?
Thanks,
Kirsten
Yes I had an UZI, and no I don't use a tripod for any of my shots if I can take this at 10x then I don't think I need OIS

http://www.kmbates.plus.com/Waddington2003/pages/F15E_0133.htm
and now they have reduced in price they are the best value camera
on the market IMHO.

http://www.kevin-bates.co.uk
Hei,
Thank you for the link, it has pictures from all the cameras I was
considering! Especially liked the "frozen lake" and "goose" with
the c750. some of my favorite things to view, airplanes, old
phones, old cars and cute animals!
Do you find the c750 a big improvement over the c740 ? I do not use
the movie mode-so microphone is not an issue for me). When I tried
them (in the store-low lights) it seemed to me the c740 focused
faster. I wish they had AF assist!
I do have a c5050 and would have considered a telephoto lens, but
it seems it is not as easy to change lenses as with my "old"
Minolta SLR......
thanks for your opinions and help,
Kirsten

Used Uzi's on Ebay are averaging over what a new FZ10 gets. I sold
my Uzi to help pay for the FZ10, which is a wonderful camera.
I have been using an FZ10 along side my C-750 for three weeks now
and I think the C-750 is a far better camera, these images taken
yesterday with the FZ10 lack detail
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/km.bates/Manchester2004/index.htm
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Yes, I do like that feature, was not sure if the UZI had AF assist, the c740/750 do not have that either.
actually the focus assist beem is also a good reason in the
usi/ezi's favor since it makes focusing on something you can't even
see in either viewfinder possible.... nothing to be scoffed at if
you intend on being in less than perfect lighting somewhat
often.... or at least want to not have to worry much about such
instances.
Thank you again!
Kirsten

 
Hei,
Yes I had an UZI, and no I don't use a tripod for any of my shots
if I can take this at 10x then I don't think I need OIS
http://www.kmbates.plus.com/Waddington2003/pages/F15E_0133.htm
Nice shot! Do you find any difference regarding camera shake in the c740/750? ie. one not as steady as the other?
Here is a low lights handheld shot with my c5050:



Model C5050Z
Software v558-79
Date/Time 2003:12:12 19:08:42
Exposure Time 1/80 sec
F-Number F2.3
Exposure Program Shutter priority
ISO Speed Ratings 64
Exposure Bias Value 0
Max Aperture Value F2.3
Metering Mode Multi-segment

Thank you again for your help,
Kirsten

 
Yes,
I love my c5050! I just want some zoom!
thanks,
Kirsten
...if you will be keeping your 5050, the UZI would be a great
addition...
...interchangeable batteries and SM...5050 for pics requiring more
megapixels, and UZI for zoom and all around fun...
...you don't mention what "extras" are included, but for less than
$400, sounds like a good deal to me...
...let us know what you decide,
buzzy
 
Kirsten

I have 2 UZIs I bought up after my original got stolen. I will never sell them and purposely "stocked up" in the event they become difficult to obtain in the future.

I can afford any camera I want and have tried or owned many, many.

I've had a 5050 (also stolen), DREBEL, tried 740, and many others. Did not buy a Panasonic to try because I looked at the image quality closely on PBASE and found them to be not as good as UZI or Oly 740/750 series. I thought the image quality was very poor in comparison.

I really liked the 740 and will probably buy a 750 (external flash reason) or its new replacement (is that the 765?) because of the small size and image quality. Although the UZI isn't difficult to carry sometimes I need cameras I can fit in my purse, like my Canon S400.

I recently took my UZI and the Canon Digital Rebel on a beach trip and took the same shots with each. Although the DREB delivered some beautiful noiseless high ISO shots, it was inconsistent especially with focus and I ended up capturing many shots better with the UZI. Image quality at long zoom was better on this trip with the UZI. In all fairness, I hadn't had the DREB long enough to know all its idosyncracies.

If I were you I would try out a 740 or 750 by buying them at a store where you can return them and see if camera shake is a problem. But the UZI offers great low light ability and does have IS.

If you have a good deal on a private sale of a good working UZI, that would be a hard deal to turn down for me.

Hollie

Lots of UZI low light shots here but mixed in with Canon S400:

http://www.pbase.com/hollie/wickenburg_42703
 
Yes, I do like that feature, was not sure if the UZI had AF assist,
the c740/750 do not have that either.
Yes, the UZI and EZI both have a builtin focus assist light. If you use an appropriate TTL flash (other than the limited FL-20), the flash will have a much more powerful FA light. On my UZI with my Promaster 5750DX flash, I have focused in complete darkness to about 30-40 feet.
 
Yes I had an UZI, and no I don't use a tripod for any of my shots
if I can take this at 10x then I don't think I need OIS
http://www.kmbates.plus.com/Waddington2003/pages/F15E_0133.htm
Nice shot! Do you find any difference regarding camera shake in
the c740/750? ie. one not as steady as the other?
Here is a low lights handheld shot with my c5050:

Very Nice!

No other than the extra megapixel the images and autofocus were spot on with both the C-750 and C-740, because the camera is so well balanced and light its easy to hand hold at full 10x zoom.

Kevin

http://www.kevin-bates.co.uk
 
Hello,

First, hope they are going commercial...or have just "flown in"...... http://www.pbase.com/image/16079690 . Picked out the UZI shots right awat, we have a Canon A70 "ski" camera.....

Anyway....I do like AF assist for low light and IS to reduce camera shake, but I also like the idea of carrying it in my "bag". So, yes I will go and try out the c740/750 before I buy the UZI- I have a few more days before he will list it.
Thanks for your link and your opinions on the cameras,
Kirsten


Kirsten,
I have 2 UZIs I bought up after my original got stolen. I will
never sell them and purposely "stocked up" in the event they become
difficult to obtain in the future.
I can afford any camera I want and have tried or owned many, many.
I've had a 5050 (also stolen), DREBEL, tried 740, and many others.
Did not buy a Panasonic to try because I looked at the image
quality closely on PBASE and found them to be not as good as UZI or
Oly 740/750 series. I thought the image quality was very poor in
comparison.
I really liked the 740 and will probably buy a 750 (external flash
reason) or its new replacement (is that the 765?) because of the
small size and image quality. Although the UZI isn't difficult to
carry sometimes I need cameras I can fit in my purse, like my Canon
S400.
I recently took my UZI and the Canon Digital Rebel on a beach trip
and took the same shots with each. Although the DREB delivered
some beautiful noiseless high ISO shots, it was inconsistent
especially with focus and I ended up capturing many shots better
with the UZI. Image quality at long zoom was better on this trip
with the UZI. In all fairness, I hadn't had the DREB long enough
to know all its idosyncracies.
If I were you I would try out a 740 or 750 by buying them at a
store where you can return them and see if camera shake is a
problem. But the UZI offers great low light ability and does have
IS.
If you have a good deal on a private sale of a good working UZI,
that would be a hard deal to turn down for me.
Hollie
Lots of UZI low light shots here but mixed in with Canon S400:
http://www.pbase.com/hollie/wickenburg_42703
 
Yes Kirsten, they've just flown in, that's why they are drinking. This is a group of pilots on a little trip, any excuse to fly their planes.

What I love about the UZI and perhaps any small camera long zoom, is the candid shots you can get because nobody has any idea your camera could get so close up.

Hollie
Hello,
First, hope they are going commercial...or have just "flown
in"...... http://www.pbase.com/image/16079690 . Picked out the UZI
shots right awat, we have a Canon A70 "ski" camera.....
Anyway....I do like AF assist for low light and IS to reduce camera
shake, but I also like the idea of carrying it in my "bag". So,
yes I will go and try out the c740/750 before I buy the UZI- I have
a few more days before he will list it.
Thanks for your link and your opinions on the cameras,
Kirsten

 
Hello,

While in Italy, I am planning on getting the Soligor DG-20 DA Digital Autofocus Flash (TTL) for my c5050. Would have to wait on a flash for the UZI....but sounds like a must for sure. Saw a few more great shots with the UZI....
Thanks,
Kirsten
Yes, the UZI and EZI both have a builtin focus assist light. If
you use an appropriate TTL flash (other than the limited FL-20),
the flash will have a much more powerful FA light. On my UZI with
my Promaster 5750DX flash, I have focused in complete darkness to
about 30-40 feet.
 
Hei again,
Guess I should have titled this UZI or c740/750...!

Anyway, I am going to go "try" some shots with both the c7xxx's. I know the UZI is a wonderful camera, but I was hoping for something a "bit" more compact....I will have to see if my hands are steady enough.
Thanks again for the reply,
Kirsten


Nice shot! Do you find any difference regarding camera shake in
the c740/750? ie. one not as steady as the other?
Here is a low lights handheld shot with my c5050:

Very Nice!

No other than the extra megapixel the images and autofocus were
spot on with both the C-750 and C-740, because the camera is so
well balanced and light its easy to hand hold at full 10x zoom.

Kevin

http://www.kevin-bates.co.uk
 
Yes Kirsten, they've just flown in, that's why they are drinking.
This is a group of pilots on a little trip, any excuse to fly their
planes.
I figured they must have just landed. My husband will not even drink diet pop, because of short term memory loss.....anyway.
What I love about the UZI and perhaps any small camera long zoom,
is the candid shots you can get because nobody has any idea your
camera could get so close up.
I imagine the AF assist really helps with the focusing.
Thanks again,
Kirsten

 
Hi Kevin,

I don't think you have to be careful what you say about the FZ10. If you are attaining the desired images with the camera that best suits your needs... you can not be faulted! Good luck to you... and will continue to enjoy your images no matter the camera you may choose.
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Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com
 
Hi Kirsten,

If you find that it is important for a long zoom camera to be compact... than it sounds like the Cxxx series will fit your needs. Good luck on whatever camera you find that best serves your needs.
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Regards,
Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com
 
Hi Hollie,

I appreciate your enthusiam for your UZI's... however isn't it a wee bit strong to say images produced by the FZ10 are very poor compared to other cameras? ;) I thought I would share a few... I hope you enjoy.

Images straight from the camera except for downsizing and some cropping...









Last image taken with no flash at ISO 400... again unprocessed...



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Regards,
Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com
 
I have a similar C730 and I do get some good pictures, however I disagree that the FZ10 does not do as well as the 750. To my eye the FZ10s look every bit as good as the 750. The detail seems to be the same and if anything they look a little "soft" but nothing that can't be overcome with USM.
Used Uzi's on Ebay are averaging over what a new FZ10 gets. I sold
my Uzi to help pay for the FZ10, which is a wonderful camera.
I have been using an FZ10 along side my C-750 for three weeks now
and I think the C-750 is a far better camera, these images taken
yesterday with the FZ10 lack detail

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/km.bates/Manchester2004/index.htm

to see the C-750 images I have taken see my site below
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http://www.kevin-bates.co.uk
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http://www.pbase.com/waynes6
 
Hi Kirwin,

I like your photos very much and think the panasonic does an excellent job. I would like to know if you find the FZ10 IS helpful in capturing the action shots?
Hi Hollie,

I appreciate your enthusiam for your UZI's... however isn't it a
wee bit strong to say images produced by the FZ10 are very poor
compared to other cameras? ;) I thought I would share a
few... I hope you enjoy.

Images straight from the camera except for downsizing and some
cropping...









Last image taken with no flash at ISO 400... again unprocessed...



--



Regards,
Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com
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http://www.pbase.com/waynes6
 
Hello,

I will not tell you how long I pondered over getting my c5050....but, it was far too long. I was told "just get it!". This time I only have a few days.
Thanks for the encouragment,
Kirsten
Hi Kirsten,

If you find that it is important for a long zoom camera to be
compact... than it sounds like the Cxxx series will fit your needs.
Good luck on whatever camera you find that best serves your needs.
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Regards,
Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com
 

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