Help selecting a new printer for photos only

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I have a Canon D30 and now print on a HP 970Cse. I am thinking about adding a new printer (not replacing the HP) to be used for photo prints only. I can only print 8X10 on the HP and somthing larger would be nice. I have no experience with other than HP's. Roll paper? Tell me more.

I look forward to hearing from you. Money is a factor so the sky is not possible.

Thank you.
 
Large format printers seem to command disproportionally high prices. Why, for example, the large format HP printer costs twice as much as the equivelent standard printer is beyond me.

Among many other printers, I've used the HP 1100, a "big brother" to the 970c. When it came time to go large format, I tested a variety of models. One of my frustrations was that the output from the models I tested, such as the Epson 1200 and 1270, varied too much from my HP; there was simply no consistency between output, even with tweaking settings. Then I tried the Epson 1160. If there's one thing the 1160 has taught me, it is that 6-color printers don't necessarily have an advantage over 4-color printers. In theory they do, but 4 colors is really sufficient. (Granted, this is not the case will ALL 4-color printers. The 1160, in my opinion, merely illustrates that it's possible to produce color with 4 colors that doesn't suffer by comparison to 6-color output.)

Anyway, the 1160 is really one of the most underrated printers out there and it has some really nice features. For example, it supports paper sizes up to 13" wide. The driver allows for some extensive tweaking and control. The printer is reasonably fast. It uses 4 picoliter inkdrops, the same as the 870/1270. And best of all, the cartridges do not have the "refill killer chip" used by the 1270, which means you can refill using third party inks. After seeing the output from this printer, I quickly installed the MIS Continuous Flow System, connecting bottles of ink to special cartridges for massive savings. When you're printing large 11x17 prints, you'll be very thankful you're not replacing those costly cartridges, plus you'll be putting less plastic into the ground.

The output from the 1160 is very high quality, slightly better than the HP (I've found a +4 Brightness and +7 Saturation setting improves the overall image quality and elminates any hint of banding or visible dots from a reasonable viewing distance.). However, using the same paper (either Red River Ultra Pro or JetPrint Professional), the color gamut from these two machines are remarkably close. I have no problem printing a set of the same photo on both machines.

The printer itself is a good buy at $299. The ink system cost about $100 and includes bottled inks equivelent to about a dozen refills. When you need more ink, the next set of bottles will cost about the same as a set of cartridges. (You don't replace the entire system, but merely replace ink bottles when they become empty. You can buy larger bottles for even more savings.)

I sold my 1200 and 875 and plan to purchase another 1160 to devote to Quadtone bw printing with the Continuous Flow System. (My current Quadtone system is small format only.)

Best of luck

Dale
I have a Canon D30 and now print on a HP 970Cse. I am thinking
about adding a new printer (not replacing the HP) to be used for
photo prints only. I can only print 8X10 on the HP and somthing
larger would be nice. I have no experience with other than HP's.
Roll paper? Tell me more.

I look forward to hearing from you. Money is a factor so the sky
is not possible.

Thank you.
 
It is available from MIS Associates, a reputable and leading maker of inkjet products. They have a wonderful website, full of great information on the products they sell and how to use them. Most helpful are the downloadable instuctions (not abridged -- these are the full instructions) on refilling carts and installing CFS systems (PDF format). This is quite useful as you determine if this direction is for you. (Actually, the instructions are specific to the smallest detail and can be intimidating at first. I've installed 2 CFS systems and refilled several different kinds of carts with no problems simply by doing as they instruct. It's rather easy. Today, I can fill HP color carts in under five minutes.)

When it comes to the CFS, note that you can buy individual parts or a complete system. If you are first time user, you'll need the full system, which includes rivots, syringes, virgin empties, etc. The 1160 is about a hundred bucks. After that, you'll just need the ink refills.

Best of luck

Dale
Continuous Flow System, connecting bottles of ink to special
cartridges for massive savings
I haven't look for this system yet but where should I start to look
for it?
 
Sorry about that... the MIS website url doesn't match their name. You'll find them at:

http://www.inksupply.com

One other caution... they also sell archival inks. These inks, while providing long life, work well with far fewer papers and generally don't perform well with glossy surfaces. Unless you specifically need archival prints, stick with standard inks. (Standard inks also look better.)

Dale
When it comes to the CFS, note that you can buy individual parts or
a complete system. If you are first time user, you'll need the full
system, which includes rivots, syringes, virgin empties, etc. The
1160 is about a hundred bucks. After that, you'll just need the ink
refills.

Best of luck

Dale
Continuous Flow System, connecting bottles of ink to special
cartridges for massive savings
I haven't look for this system yet but where should I start to look
for it?
 

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