Buying advice irrelevant -- many camera products soon unaffordable!

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The new tariffs look to completely upset advice formerly given on this forum, and will, I think, greatly reduce our camera and lens choices going forward. For example, I don't see how Olympus can remain viable in the U.S., when I think their products are assembled in Vietnam, which will have a nearly 50% duty levied. Similarly, I think most Tamron lenses are manufactured in Vietnam. Would you still buy one if nearly 50% more expensive? Etc.

Photography will soon be a considerably more expensive hobby/profession.
 
Probably true. Other than maybe Sony, I do not envision other companies developing US production, and if they tried , where would all these businesses find enough suitable workers with unemployment at about 4%? Plus the parts would need to be made here as well. Not all foreign production was developed because it is cheaper. Some countries and developing companies developed new or superior products and then dominated the market. Punishing them will not be productive. My .02

Greg
 
Still relevant for the rest of the world.

And good luck growing coffee there, it will not be yummy. Or other stuff they can’t grow or mine there, while still need to pay very high import taxes for.
 
I wonder what percentage of camera sales are to the US verses the rest of the world? I always got the impression that the reason so many camera companies were Japanese was that Japan had a big camera culture, and a large local market, for example.
 
Based on what’s been done camera prices are the last thing Americans should be worried about,
 
We won’t be upset if they dump them on us instead.

A
 
The new tariffs look to completely upset advice formerly given on this forum, and will, I think, greatly reduce our camera and lens choices going forward. For example, I don't see how Olympus can remain viable in the U.S., when I think their products are assembled in Vietnam, which will have a nearly 50% duty levied. Similarly, I think most Tamron lenses are manufactured in Vietnam. Would you still buy one if nearly 50% more expensive? Etc.

Photography will soon be a considerably more expensive hobby/profession.
Let's see how it all shakes out. Litigation is pending questioning the legal and Constitutional authority of the US executive branch (the President) to impose tariffs on their own. If legal action is not successful, bear in mind that deal-making is what this leadership lives for regardless of the vaudeville show they are putting on at the moment. Vietnam has just offered a zero-for-zero trade agreement. Let's see what happens.
 
The new tariffs look to completely upset advice formerly given on this forum, and will, I think, greatly reduce our camera and lens choices going forward. For example, I don't see how Olympus can remain viable in the U.S., when I think their products are assembled in Vietnam, which will have a nearly 50% duty levied. Similarly, I think most Tamron lenses are manufactured in Vietnam. Would you still buy one if nearly 50% more expensive? Etc.

Photography will soon be a considerably more expensive hobby/profession.
Let's see how it all shakes out. Litigation is pending questioning the legal and Constitutional authority of the US executive branch (the President) to impose tariffs on their own. If legal action is not successful, bear in mind that deal-making is what this leadership lives for regardless of the vaudeville show they are putting on at the moment. Vietnam has just offered a zero-for-zero trade agreement. Let's see what happens.
Honestly, the roots of this are deep and longstanding. There is no secret about the conceptual thinking https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/do...o_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf

Navarro has been explicit that Vietnam dropping tariffs is meaningless.

A

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The new tariffs look to completely upset advice formerly given on this forum, and will, I think, greatly reduce our camera and lens choices going forward. For example, I don't see how Olympus can remain viable in the U.S., when I think their products are assembled in Vietnam, which will have a nearly 50% duty levied. Similarly, I think most Tamron lenses are manufactured in Vietnam. Would you still buy one if nearly 50% more expensive? Etc.

Photography will soon be a considerably more expensive hobby/profession.
.Maybe - but most "experts" say in a couple years this tariff war will end
 
The new tariffs look to completely upset advice formerly given on this forum, and will, I think, greatly reduce our camera and lens choices going forward. For example, I don't see how Olympus can remain viable in the U.S., when I think their products are assembled in Vietnam, which will have a nearly 50% duty levied. Similarly, I think most Tamron lenses are manufactured in Vietnam. Would you still buy one if nearly 50% more expensive? Etc.

Photography will soon be a considerably more expensive hobby/profession.
The fact is, most hobbyists can afford to spend 50% more, even if we don't want to. It's still a relatively cheap hobby because once you have the gear ongoing costs are zero.

Pros will have to charge a little more to cover their equipment costs, but equipment costs are only a small percentage of most photography business expenses. Also, since tariffs trigger broad inflation, customers will expect rising prices.

For my part, I'll take a trip to Canada to buy my next batch of camera gear. I'd rather do business there anyway.
.Maybe - but most "experts" say in a couple years this tariff war will end
Most experts didn't think this tariff war would start in the first place. I don't think we should put too much stock in their predictions now.

Trump has pushed for tariffs since the 1980s. This idea that we should tax imports to bring slave-wage manufacturing back home is one of his core beliefs. He also loves that imposing tariffs makes leaders of foreign countries beg him (or bribe him) to change his mind. Even if they negotiate out of this wave, I think we should expect consistent threats and escalation. Had the market continued to fall, maybe Congress would have stepped in, but Republicans seem to be on board with this insanity.

Also, China is calling Trump's bluff and so much of what the US imports is from China that that is really the whole ballgame in a lot of ways.
 
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Well good thing this is not an american-only forum I guess. Those tariffs don't apply to Europe so far, maybe prices will rise a little bit, but not enough to make them radically different or unaffordable.

I'd recommend buying used gear anyway.
 
Well good thing this is not an american-only forum I guess. Those tariffs don't apply to Europe so far, maybe prices will rise a little bit, but not enough to make them radically different or unaffordable.

I'd recommend buying used gear anyway.
Used gear from targeted countries will be subject to the tariff, And even if a US shopper buys used domestically, human nature and market based sales being what they are, if the tariffs stay in place and new prices rise significantly, used prices will also rise significantly.
 
Well good thing this is not an american-only forum I guess. Those tariffs don't apply to Europe so far, maybe prices will rise a little bit, but not enough to make them radically different or unaffordable.

I'd recommend buying used gear anyway.
Used gear from targeted countries will be subject to the tariff, And even if a US shopper buys used domestically, human nature and market based sales being what they are, if the tariffs stay in place and new prices rise significantly, used prices will also rise significantly.
Can't relate, I buy all my used stuff locally. And I'm not american.
 
The new tariffs look to completely upset advice formerly given on this forum, and will, I think, greatly reduce our camera and lens choices going forward. For example, I don't see how Olympus can remain viable in the U.S., when I think their products are assembled in Vietnam, which will have a nearly 50% duty levied. Similarly, I think most Tamron lenses are manufactured in Vietnam. Would you still buy one if nearly 50% more expensive? Etc.

Photography will soon be a considerably more expensive hobby/profession.
The fact is, most hobbyists can afford to spend 50% more, even if we don't want to. It's still a relatively cheap hobby because once you have the gear ongoing costs are zero.

Pros will have to charge a little more to cover their equipment costs, but equipment costs are only a small percentage of most photography business expenses. Also, since tariffs trigger broad inflation, customers will expect rising prices.

For my part, I'll take a trip to Canada to buy my next batch of camera gear. I'd rather do business there anyway.
.Maybe - but most "experts" say in a couple years this tariff war will end
Most experts didn't think this tariff war would start in the first place. I don't think we should put too much stock in their predictions now.

Trump has pushed for tariffs since the 1980s. This idea that we should tax imports to bring slave-wage manufacturing back home is one of his core beliefs. He also loves that imposing tariffs makes leaders of foreign countries beg him (or bribe him) to change his mind. Even if they negotiate out of this wave, I think we should expect consistent threats and escalation. Had the market continued to fall, maybe Congress would have stepped in, but Republicans seem to be on board with this insanity.

Also, China is calling Trump's bluff and so much of what the US imports is from China that that is really the whole ballgame in a lot of ways.
true, the tariff "tax" looks like it will continue but things could change ... in 42 months :-D
 
So true 🤔
 
April 12 - Several types of cameras are currently exempt from reciprocal tariffs under the Trump administration's trade policies. Specifically, smartphones, computers, and other electronic devices, including components like semiconductor chips, are included in the exemption. This means that these electronic goods, including cameras and associated equipment, are not subject to the 10% baseline tariff or the higher 145% tariff on goods from China.
 

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